webfact Posted November 15, 2023 Posted November 15, 2023 A family dispute has surfaced over the ownership of a cliff-top cafe and restaurant in the central province of Chantaburi following the death of a man. The contention involves the man’s Thai wife and his ex-wife. The conflict became public when Phanisa “Mook” Pongsawat, a Thai woman, posted a message on the Facebook page of the cafe, Sky View Cafe AT Chantaburi (Sky View cafe AT จันทบุรี) announcing the closure for maintenance from November 30 due to the passing of her husband, Songkran “Es” Taweeponsawat. In response to the post, Es’ daughter, Supajitta Dermsomboon, created a new Facebook page for the cafe and insisted that she and her siblings would be the owners of the cafe from December 19, 2022. She added that the cafe would open as normal and urged Mook to stop interfering in her business. Mook later explained to her customers that she had been in a relationship with Es for 11 years and had adopted a boy named Sky, who is now seven years old. They lived together in the southern province of Nakhon Si Thammarat before moving to Chantaburi province in 2019. by Petch Petpailin Top Photo via Teawbebgru Full story: The Thaiger 2023-11-15 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. Get our Daily Newsletter - Click HERE to subscribe
Popular Post Gottfrid Posted November 15, 2023 Popular Post Posted November 15, 2023 So, does that mean Es was married to his daughter? 3
huangnon Posted November 15, 2023 Posted November 15, 2023 Is that him checking out in the photo.? 1 1
Popular Post gomangosteen Posted November 15, 2023 Popular Post Posted November 15, 2023 Been a lot of coverage of this on our local Facebook and also on CTV Chanthaburi; death threats, guns involved. Add in that the building itself is questionable in terms of the extensions, and that the land is 'owned' by Wat Ko Proet and whether they ever actually approved of the use of the site for a cafe and the amount of destruction of the landscape this has entailed, including the removal of some concrete structures related to the use of Ko Proet as a refugee camp for approx 5000 Vietnamese and later Cambodians fleeing conflict in their respective countries, many of whom died here. 2017 before any clearance for cafe Mentioned in this book the author Michael Harpold was here 3
JeffersLos Posted November 15, 2023 Posted November 15, 2023 Maybe the police can volunteer to take control of it until the family sort it out.
it is what it is Posted November 15, 2023 Posted November 15, 2023 another reminder to have your affairs in order, just in case. 1
VocalNeal Posted November 15, 2023 Posted November 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, it is what it is said: another reminder to have your affairs in order, just in case. Perhaps he did this on purpose?
Gandtee Posted November 15, 2023 Posted November 15, 2023 If a farang's wife died before him would the house automatically belong to him?
hotchilli Posted November 15, 2023 Posted November 15, 2023 19 hours ago, Gottfrid said: So, does that mean Es was married to his daughter? No,just a poorly written headline it means that "E" had not re-married to Mook, they were in a relationship for 11 years. His daughter believes the restaurant becomes hers after his death due to inheritance. 1
Popular Post Mike Lister Posted November 15, 2023 Popular Post Posted November 15, 2023 17 hours ago, Gandtee said: If a farang's wife died before him would the house automatically belong to him? If the farangs wife is Thai, yes, ownership passes to the farang but only for one year, during which time it must be sold or new ownership arrangements made. 2 1
Gottfrid Posted November 15, 2023 Posted November 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, hotchilli said: No,just a poorly written headline it means that "E" had not re-married to Mook, they were in a relationship for 11 years. His daughter believes the restaurant becomes hers after his death due to inheritance. Yep, and my comment was a joke.
hotchilli Posted November 16, 2023 Posted November 16, 2023 44 minutes ago, Gottfrid said: Yep, and my comment was a joke. I did notice that.
lom Posted November 16, 2023 Posted November 16, 2023 3 hours ago, Mike Lister said: If the farangs wife is Thai, yes, ownership passes to the farang but only for one year, during which time it must be sold or new ownership arrangements made. There is no farang involved in this case, the guy was Thai.
Mike Lister Posted November 16, 2023 Posted November 16, 2023 11 minutes ago, lom said: There is no farang involved in this case, the guy was Thai. Poster Gandtree asked a question, I answered it, it was nothing to do with the news article, please read the thread again more carefully! 1
KhunLA Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 Don't know about the legal issue, but good advert for the restaurant. Shame Gmap states 'permanently closed', though FB states temporary for renovations (settle legal issue ?). May have to revisit the east side of the Gulf, as it's been over a decade since I explored over there. Road trip
BobBKK Posted December 16, 2023 Posted December 16, 2023 Surely if he did not marry this Mook it can't be hers? The daughter looks like she has the best claim. An ex wife is... an ex-wife
Chris Daley Posted December 16, 2023 Posted December 16, 2023 Aliens can't own property. So who ever owns the building should take it back.
gomangosteen Posted December 28, 2023 Posted December 28, 2023 The issue of the restaurant/ cafe and associated building has been resolved. All demolished and site cleared this week, I visited the site yesterday. The whole construction was not legal, not consented / permitted and this could not be done retrospectively as was in breach of the minimum 12 metres from the clifftop requirements - it was built to the clifftop and in places extended over the edge, they were given until 30 December to demolish it all. So maybe there was no 'winner' in the family dispute over ownership, and who paid for the demolition? Beware the Drop (almost) it's loose stones near the edge don't get too close There's now a coffee caravan and awning area for hot / cold drinks and food, set back towards the treeline. Signs for the (gone) Skyline Cafe remain at intervals on the roadside from about 3km away, but there's still the view to enjoy.
KannikaP Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 On 11/16/2023 at 9:40 AM, lom said: There is no farang involved in this case, the guy was Thai. Called Songkran, with a son named Sky. 5555
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