TallGuyJohninBKK Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 November 22, 2023 "People vaccinated before their first case of COVID-19 are diagnosed with Long COVID almost four times less than unvaccinated people, suggests a large new study published Nov. 22 in the BMJ. ... The new study offers encouraging evidence that people who get vaccinated before their first COVID-19 case are at significantly lower risk of developing long-term symptoms like brain fog and fatigue, with each additional dose received prior to infection offering extra protection. A single pre-infection dose of one of the original COVID-19 vaccines reduced the risk of Long COVID by 21%, two doses by 59%, and three or more doses by 73%, the researchers estimated." (more) https://time.com/6338434/vaccination-long-covid-risk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted December 6, 2023 Author Share Posted December 6, 2023 Studies suggest even one vaccine dose may cut risk of long COVID November 29, 2023 Two new analyses from Sweden and Pakistan published in BMJ highlight the benefits of partial or full COVID-19 vaccination in preventing persistent symptoms. Vaccination tied to 58% lower risk of long COVID In Sweden, University of Gothenburg researchers led an observational evaluation of the efficacy of primary COVID-19 vaccination (two doses followed by a booster) against long COVID, or post-COVID condition (PCC), among adults whose first infections were recorded in a national registry from December 2020 to February 2022. Average follow-up was 129 days. ... Of all participants vaccinated before infection, 0.4% were diagnosed as having long COVID during follow-up, compared with 1.4% of their 290,030 unvaccinated peers, a nearly four-fold difference." (more) https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/studies-suggest-even-one-vaccine-dose-may-cut-risk-long-covid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 I had Covid a few months ago, on day 1 I had a mild fever, then it turned into a full on cold type thing (constant runny nose, sneezing, coughing and sore throat) for the next 3 days (notably the fever did not return after day 1) and then it stopped. I had a bit of 'clearing the throat' for about another week, then it was completely gone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post connda Posted December 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2023 Get your Covid mRNA shots as frequently as they are offered. The more the better. Especially if you are fearful, then get shots as often as possible. If you get the shots, you won't get Covid, but if you do get Covid, you won't get long Covid. And if you do get long Covid, it won't be as long as anti-vaxxers. And if it is as long as anti-vaxxers, then you didn't have enough shots. Get them today. And tomorrow too! Safe and Effective. 1 3 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 10 minutes ago, connda said: Get your Covid mRNA shots as frequently as they are offered. The more the better. Especially if you are fearful, then get shots as often as possible. If you get the shots, you won't get Covid, but if you do get Covid, you won't get long Covid. And if you do get long Covid, it won't be as long as anti-vaxxers. And if it is as long as anti-vaxxers, then you didn't have enough shots. Get them today. And tomorrow too! Safe and Effective. And if you die with Covid after all those shots, or due to a side effect of the vaccine ... ... oh well ... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted December 6, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, KhunLA said: And if you die with Covid after all those shots, or due to a side effect of the vaccine ... ... oh well ... There have been more than 13 BILLION COVID vaccine doses given in the world since they were first released. The relative number of deaths documented as related to COVID vaccination has been exceedingly tiny. The number of deaths from COVID has been huge, ranging from 7 million officially recorded vs estimates of actual COVID deaths approaching 20 million or more. https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-deaths-estimates Even now, according to the WHO, current official COVID deaths in the world are running at several thousand per month, and that's with a lot of countries no longer COVID deaths at all (only 43 out of 200+ did). "Globally, during the 28-day period from 23 October to 19 November 2023, 104 countries reported COVID-19 cases and 43 countries reported COVID-19 deaths. Note that this does not reflect the actual number of countries where cases or deaths are occurring, as a number of countries have stopped or changed frequency of reporting." https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20231124_covid-19_epi_update_161.pdf?sfvrsn=a23783d6_3&download=true Do the math. The current health risks from COVID vastly exceed the very rare risks associated with COVID vaccination, as virtually every public health agency in the world has attested. Edited December 6, 2023 by TallGuyJohninBKK 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted December 6, 2023 Author Share Posted December 6, 2023 ICMRA statement on the safety of COVID-19 vaccines (International Coalition of Medicines Regulatory Authorities) "Evidence from the more than 13 billions of vaccine doses given worldwide shows that COVID-19 vaccines have a very good safety profile in all age groups. The benefits of the approved vaccines far outweigh the possible risks." ... As for all medicines, reports of medical events after COVID-19 vaccination (suspected side effects) are collected and continuously evaluated by the authorities. These evaluations show that in most cases the medical events were not caused by the vaccine. ... False and misleading information about the safety of COVID-19 vaccines on social media often exaggerates the frequency and severity of side effects. Misinformation also wrongly attributes unrelated medical events to the vaccines." https://icmra.info/drupal/strategicinitiatives/vaccines/safety_statement 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Zioner Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Between July 2021 and August 2022 I had one Janssen and four Moderna. From March 2022 to March 2023 I had a very high burden of PVCs, up to 40000 a day during Jan-Feb 23. Coincidence? Oh I also had Covid in July 2022. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted December 6, 2023 Author Share Posted December 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said: Between July 2021 and August 2022 I had one Janssen and four Moderna. From March 2022 to March 2023 I had a very high burden of PVCs, up to 40000 a day during Jan-Feb 23. Coincidence? Oh I also had Covid in July 2022. Heart-disease risk soars after COVID — even with a mild case Massive study shows a long-term, substantial rise in risk of cardiovascular disease, including heart attack and stroke, after a SARS-CoV-2 infection. 10 February 2022 "Even a mild case of COVID-19 can increase a person’s risk of cardiovascular problems for at least a year after diagnosis, a new study1 shows. Researchers found that rates of many conditions, such as heart failure and stroke, were substantially higher in people who had recovered from COVID-19 than in similar people who hadn’t had the disease." https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00403-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bignok Posted December 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2023 17 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: There have been more than 13 BILLION COVID vaccine doses given in the world since they were first released. The relative number of deaths documented as related to COVID vaccination has been exceedingly tiny. The number of deaths from COVID has been huge, ranging from 7 million officially recorded vs estimates of actual COVID deaths approaching 20 million or more. https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-deaths-estimates Even now, according to the WHO, current official COVID deaths in the world are running at several thousand per month, and that's with a lot of countries no longer COVID deaths at all (only 43 out of 200+ did). "Globally, during the 28-day period from 23 October to 19 November 2023, 104 countries reported COVID-19 cases and 43 countries reported COVID-19 deaths. Note that this does not reflect the actual number of countries where cases or deaths are occurring, as a number of countries have stopped or changed frequency of reporting." https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20231124_covid-19_epi_update_161.pdf?sfvrsn=a23783d6_3&download=true Do the math. The current health risks from COVID vastly exceed the very rare risks associated with COVID vaccination, as virtually every public health agency in the world has attested. Scare mongering nonsense. The who are crooks. 86yo dies with covid it wasn't covid that killed them. It was weak heart and old age. 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 95% of USA covid deaths were aged 50yo+ that means it is weaker heart, lungs, poor health killing people https://www.aarp.org/health/conditions-treatments/info-2020/coronavirus-deaths-older-adults.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted December 6, 2023 Author Share Posted December 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, bignok said: Scare mongering nonsense. The who are crooks. 86yo dies with covid it wasn't covid that killed them. It was weak heart and old age. And of course, you're going to ignore the doctors' medical certificates that specifically find those classified as COVID deaths in fact died primarily due to COVID or with COVID as a contributing factor. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted December 6, 2023 Author Share Posted December 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, bignok said: 95% of USA covid deaths were aged 50yo+ that means it is weaker heart, lungs, poor health killing people https://www.aarp.org/health/conditions-treatments/info-2020/coronavirus-deaths-older-adults.html The first part I assume is more or less true... The second part is your unsourced and unsubstantiated nonsense. COVID: millions of older people have died without being counted "The WHO global estimates on excess deaths during the COVID-19 pandemic raise many uncomfortable truths about how we as a global community value the lives of older people and those in low- and middle-income countries. ... Many of those older people who died may have lived five, 10, 20 years or more – in one study published in the BMJ, additional years of life lost in 31 countries in 2020 alone were estimated at more than 28 million and concentrated among older people. The loss of these individuals to their families and communities is unquantifiable." https://reliefweb.int/report/world/covid-millions-older-people-have-died-without-being-counted 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bignok Posted December 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: The first part I assume is more or less true... The second part is your unsourced and unsubstantiated nonsense. COVID: millions of older people have died without being counted "The WHO global estimates on excess deaths during the COVID-19 pandemic raise many uncomfortable truths about how we as a global community value the lives of older people and those in low- and middle-income countries. ... Many of those older people who died may have lived five, 10, 20 years or more – in one study published in the BMJ, additional years of life lost in 31 countries in 2020 alone were estimated at more than 28 million and concentrated among older people. The loss of these individuals to their families and communities is unquantifiable." https://reliefweb.int/report/world/covid-millions-older-people-have-died-without-being-counted WHO is corrupt 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 78% of covid hospitalizations were fat https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/08/covid-cdc-study-finds-roughly-78percent-of-people-hospitalized-were-overweight-or-obese.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted December 6, 2023 Author Share Posted December 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, bignok said: 78% of covid hospitalizations were fat https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/08/covid-cdc-study-finds-roughly-78percent-of-people-hospitalized-were-overweight-or-obese.html But they're in the hospital and dying because of COVID...at least when their death certificates say so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: But they're in the hospital and dying because of COVID...at least when their death certificates say so. They died with covid. Who knows how longer they live without. Flus kill people. The world is overpopulated anyway. Need to cull another 2bn. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sungod Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 20 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: The first part I assume is more or less true... The second part is your unsourced and unsubstantiated nonsense. COVID: millions of older people have died without being counted "The WHO global estimates on excess deaths during the COVID-19 pandemic raise many uncomfortable truths about how we as a global community value the lives of older people and those in low- and middle-income countries. ... Many of those older people who died may have lived five, 10, 20 years or more – in one study published in the BMJ, additional years of life lost in 31 countries in 2020 alone were estimated at more than 28 million and concentrated among older people. The loss of these individuals to their families and communities is unquantifiable." https://reliefweb.int/report/world/covid-millions-older-people-have-died-without-being-counted Stress because of covid will get you, not just covid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Startmeup Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 1 hour ago, connda said: Get your Covid mRNA shots as frequently as they are offered. The more the better. Especially if you are fearful, then get shots as often as possible. If you get the shots, you won't get Covid, but if you do get Covid, you won't get long Covid. And if you do get long Covid, it won't be as long as anti-vaxxers. And if it is as long as anti-vaxxers, then you didn't have enough shots. Get them today. And tomorrow too! Safe and Effective. Yet to meet an "anti-vaxxer" that has "long covid", I wonder why? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted December 6, 2023 Author Share Posted December 6, 2023 12 minutes ago, Startmeup said: Yet to meet an "anti-vaxxer" that has "long covid", I wonder why? "Of all participants vaccinated before infection, 0.4% were diagnosed as having long COVID during follow-up, compared with 1.4% of their 290,030 unvaccinated peers, a nearly four-fold difference." https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/studies-suggest-even-one-vaccine-dose-may-cut-risk-long-covid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stats Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 A post with an unsourced and unsubstantiated claim has been removed for contravening the forum's Community Standards: "In factual areas such as news forums and current affairs topics member content that is claimed or portrayed as a fact should be supported by a link to a relevant reputable source." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabas Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 2 hours ago, bignok said: WHO is corrupt Exactly what I want to know too. The truth is misinformation is now so great that few have a clue what is real. Common sense is now your best defense, and ignoring what is not backed by reliable information. Does anyone really believe millions died from vaccines with no verifiable evidence? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Phoenix Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 11 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: November 22, 2023 "People vaccinated before their first case of COVID-19 are diagnosed with Long COVID almost four times less than unvaccinated people, suggests a large new study published Nov. 22 in the BMJ. ... A single pre-infection dose of one of the original COVID-19 vaccines reduced the risk of Long COVID by 21%, two doses by 59%, and three or more doses by 73%, the researchers estimated." ~ I highlighted some words used in your post (fromt the Times article). Also of interest is the long Funding and Competing Interests overview of the authors in the original study... = = = Note: And judging from the responses your post received, people are waking up to the covid vax-sham.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EVENKEEL Posted December 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2023 No reason to put a money maker to bed when so many are still afraid. It's a gift that keeps on giving. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaicurious Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Red Phoenix said: ~ I highlighted some words used in your post (fromt the Times article). I suggest you don't step out into traffic because recent studies estimate high risk of getting run over. Still a problem? Meanwhile, let's see what else the study says https://www.bmj.com/content/383/bmj-2023-076990 "Results Of 299 692 vaccinated individuals with covid-19, 1201 (0.4%) had a diagnosis of PCC during follow-up, compared with 4118 (1.4%) of 290 030 unvaccinated individuals. Covid-19 vaccination with any number of doses before infection was associated with a reduced risk of PCC (adjusted hazard ratio 0.42, 95% confidence interval 0.38 to 0.46), with a vaccine effectiveness of 58%. Of the vaccinated individuals, 21 111 received one dose only, 205 650 received two doses, and 72 931 received three or more doses. Vaccine effectiveness against PCC for one dose, two doses, and three or more doses was 21%, 59%, and 73%, respectively." (bolded, underlined mine) again, only louder this time for the cheap seats: ~"Vaccine effectiveness against Post Covid-19 Condition ... WAS (bolded capping mine) 21%, 59%, and 73%". Guess they must've misspelled *has been suggested by the evidence to be* as *was*, huh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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