Extending voa if married to Thai national

[SERGERAMOS]

Hi all I arrived in Thailand and got a 30 day voa and plan to extend this at my local immigration then I plan to do a visa run and extend that as well my question is I am married to a Thai lady do I have to do a border run or can I get a visa from immigration based on marriage I am only staying for just under 4 months so this is just a visit 

[youreavinalaff]

1 hour ago, SERGERAMOS said:

Hi all I arrived in Thailand and got a 30 day voa and plan to extend this at my local immigration then I plan to do a visa run and extend that as well my question is I am married to a Thai lady do I have to do a border run or can I get a visa from immigration based on marriage I am only staying for just under 4 months so this is just a visit 

You can get a 60 day extension at immigration. 

 

Documents required are usually; your passport, copy of marriage certificate, copy of wife's house book and ID card. Some offices may want an up to date KR2. 

[SERGERAMOS]

57 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

You can get a 60 day extension at immigration. 

 

Documents required are usually; your passport, copy of marriage certificate, copy of wife's house book and ID card. Some offices may want an up to date KR2. 

Thanks mate saves me a trip 

[lanng khao]

14 minutes ago, SERGERAMOS said:

Thanks mate saves me a trip 

Don't forget to take her with you when you do the 60 day

[youreavinalaff]

3 minutes ago, lanng khao said:

Don't forget to take her with you when you do the 60 day

Something else that needs to be checked.

 

I have done several 60 day extensions without my wife present.

[Lite Beer]

A  VOA cannot be extended.

A Visa Exempt Entry can though.

I suspect you have one of those.

Two totally different things.

[SERGERAMOS]

19 hours ago, Lite Beer said:

A  VOA cannot be extended.

A Visa Exempt Entry can though.

I suspect you have one of those.

Two totally different things.

19 hours ago, Lite Beer said:

A  VOA cannot be extended.

A Visa Exempt Entry can though.

I suspect you have one of those.

Two totally different things.

 

20 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:

Something else that needs to be checked.

 

I have done several 60 day extensions without my wife present.

Thanks mate you sure it was a 30 day voa and not a 60 day tourist visa 

[youreavinalaff]

3 hours ago, SERGERAMOS said:

 

Do you have a VOA or are you on a visa exempt? What is your nationality?

[DrJack54]

On 12/16/2023 at 2:37 PM, SERGERAMOS said:

I am married to a Thai lady do I have to do a border run or can I get a visa from immigration based on marriage I am only staying for just under 4 months so this is just a visit 

You actually entered visa exempt and received a 30 day stamp.

That can be extended by 30 days.

After that you can obtain 60 day extension to visit wife.

Gives approx 4 months 

[brianthainess]

Do you have a Thai bank Account in your name with 400,000 Baht? Seem like a little detail you have missed out.

[Red Phoenix]

When married to a Thai national it is easy to stay 4 months or longer in Thailand.

Her is how to go about:

 

#1 - Simply fly to Thailand VisaExempt (WITHOUT a Visa).  On arrival you will be stamped in by Thai border-immigration with a 30-day Permission to stay. 

NOTE: You would also need an onward flight reservation for a flight to an international destination on a date prior to the expiry-date of the 30-day Permission to stay, otherwise the airline staff at departure can refuse you to board.  Such onward flight-reservation can be bought on-line for 16 US $ at e.g. onwardticket.com 

 

#2 - During the 2 weeks preceding the expiry date of your Permission to stay, you can visit ANY Thai Immigration Office (one or more in every province) and apply for a 30-day extension of stay.  That extension costs 1.900,- THB, is provided on the spot, and the 30 days ADDED to the expiry-date of your Permission to stay.

 

#3 - During the 2 weeks preceding the expiry date of that extended Permission to stay, you can once again visit the Thai Immigration Office of the province where you are residing, and can apply for a 60-day extension of stay for reason of 'visiting your Thai wife'.  Your wife has to be with you when doing the application.  It costs 1.900,- THB and is once again delivered on the spot with the extra 60 days added to the expiry date of your extended Permission to stay. 

You will need evidence of living at an address in the province you apply (TM-30 and house-book copy will do.

You also need to provde a copy of your original Marriage Certificate, as well as a recently issued Kor-Ror-2 document (extract from the Thai national marriage register providing evidence that you are STILL married to your Thai wife).  That Kor-Ror-2 document can be obtained at ANY Thai Amphur, costs 20 to 100,- THB and is provided on the spot. Note that when you married abroad, you would first have to legalize and register that foreign Marriage Certificate so that it can be included in the Thai nation-wide marriage register.

 

#4 - With the above 3 steps you already have 120 days in Thailand, but having already applied for the 30- day and 6-day extension of stay you cannot extend the Permission to stay anymore.  And so now you will need to exit Thailand latest on the expiry-date of that latest Permission to stay you got.  A simple border-hop will do the trick (can be done same day or you can make of the opportunity to visit the neighboring country where you cross the border). 

 

#5 - After having crossed the border (e.g. a land-border crossing to Laos, Malaysia or Cambodia, or a cheap flight to Vietnam or Singapore), you can simply return VisaExempt to Thailand and will be one again stamped in with a 30-day Permission to stay.  And that NEW Permission to stay can once again be extended with a 30-day and a 60-day Permission to stay. as addressed in steps 2 and 3.  

 

>> So doing the above allows you to stay up to 240 days (8 months) in Thailand without any issues whatsoever. And so you are not bothered with:

- Applying for an eVisa to enter Thailand (the process can be an administrative nightmare);

- The petty rules/regulations to apply for the Non Imm O Visa or its extension in Thailand (which is absolutely dreadful for a Non Imm O Marriage Visa), as well as the inconvenience of a possible house-visit during the under consideration period of the Marriage Visa and its 1-year extensions.

[Red Phoenix]

1 hour ago, brianthainess said:

Do you have a Thai bank Account in your name with 400,000 Baht? Seem like a little detail you have missed out.

He only needs a Thai Bank-Account when he would apply for the 90-day Non Imm O Visa (or 1-year extensions of such Visa).  In OP's case - only staying 4 months - there is no need to do that as he can easily stay 120 days without leaving the country, and even double that when doing a border-hop.

[brianthainess]

10 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

He only needs a Thai Bank-Account when he would apply for the 90-day Non Imm O Visa (or 1-year extensions of such Visa).  In OP's case - only staying 4 months - there is no need to do that as he can easily stay 120 days without leaving the country, and even double that when doing a border-hop.

My bad I miss read the headline. 

[SERGERAMOS]

15 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

When married to a Thai national it is easy to stay 4 months or longer in Thailand.

Her is how to go about:

 

#1 - Simply fly to Thailand VisaExempt (WITHOUT a Visa).  On arrival you will be stamped in by Thai border-immigration with a 30-day Permission to stay. 

NOTE: You would also need an onward flight reservation for a flight to an international destination on a date prior to the expiry-date of the 30-day Permission to stay, otherwise the airline staff at departure can refuse you to board.  Such onward flight-reservation can be bought on-line for 16 US $ at e.g. onwardticket.com 

 

#2 - During the 2 weeks preceding the expiry date of your Permission to stay, you can visit ANY Thai Immigration Office (one or more in every province) and apply for a 30-day extension of stay.  That extension costs 1.900,- THB, is provided on the spot, and the 30 days ADDED to the expiry-date of your Permission to stay.

 

#3 - During the 2 weeks preceding the expiry date of that extended Permission to stay, you can once again visit the Thai Immigration Office of the province where you are residing, and can apply for a 60-day extension of stay for reason of 'visiting your Thai wife'.  Your wife has to be with you when doing the application.  It costs 1.900,- THB and is once again delivered on the spot with the extra 60 days added to the expiry date of your extended Permission to stay. 

You will need evidence of living at an address in the province you apply (TM-30 and house-book copy will do.

You also need to provde a copy of your original Marriage Certificate, as well as a recently issued Kor-Ror-2 document (extract from the Thai national marriage register providing evidence that you are STILL married to your Thai wife).  That Kor-Ror-2 document can be obtained at ANY Thai Amphur, costs 20 to 100,- THB and is provided on the spot. Note that when you married abroad, you would first have to legalize and register that foreign Marriage Certificate so that it can be included in the Thai nation-wide marriage register.

 

#4 - With the above 3 steps you already have 120 days in Thailand, but having already applied for the 30- day and 6-day extension of stay you cannot extend the Permission to stay anymore.  And so now you will need to exit Thailand latest on the expiry-date of that latest Permission to stay you got.  A simple border-hop will do the trick (can be done same day or you can make of the opportunity to visit the neighboring country where you cross the border). 

 

#5 - After having crossed the border (e.g. a land-border crossing to Laos, Malaysia or Cambodia, or a cheap flight to Vietnam or Singapore), you can simply return VisaExempt to Thailand and will be one again stamped in with a 30-day Permission to stay.  And that NEW Permission to stay can once again be extended with a 30-day and a 60-day Permission to stay. as addressed in steps 2 and 3.  

 

>> So doing the above allows you to stay up to 240 days (8 months) in Thailand without any issues whatsoever. And so you are not bothered with:

- Applying for an eVisa to enter Thailand (the process can be an administrative nightmare);

- The petty rules/regulations to apply for the Non Imm O Visa or its extension in Thailand (which is absolutely dreadful for a Non Imm O Marriage Visa), as well as the inconvenience of a possible house-visit during the under consideration period of the Marriage Visa and its 1-year extensions.

Great info mate thanks for that 

[youreavinalaff]

4 hours ago, brianthainess said:

Do you have a Thai bank Account in your name with 400,000 Baht? Seem like a little detail you have missed out.

Not required for 60 days.

[youreavinalaff]

20 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

You actually entered visa exempt and received a 30 day stamp.

That can be extended by 30 days.

After that you can obtain 60 day extension to visit wife.

Gives approx 4 months 

Our local immigration office will only allow on extension per entry. Either 30 or 60 days.

[brianthainess]

8 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

Not required for 60 days.

I suggest you read 3 posts back.

[youreavinalaff]

6 minutes ago, brianthainess said:

I suggest you read 3 posts back.

You quoted me, you made an incorrect comment, I corrected. Simple.

[DrJack54]

20 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

Our local immigration office will only allow on extension per entry. Either 30 or 60 days.

There are ~75 immigration offices.

Not really interested what your imm office does. 

[youreavinalaff]

20 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

There are ~75 immigration offices.

Not really interested what your imm office does. 

The point is, we don't know what office the OP is using. Each office often implement their own rules. 

 

The OP could well be using the same immigration office as I do and, thus, your comments are inane. 

 

The immigration office he will use may have the same rule as the one I use. Once again making your comment inane.

 

You may not be interested. That has no bearing on the OP's situation.

 

 

[SERGERAMOS]

16 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

The point is, we don't know what office the OP is using. Each office often implement their own rules. 

 

The OP could well be using the same immigration office as I do and, thus, your comments are inane. 

 

The immigration office he will use may have the same rule as the one I use. Once again making your comment inane.

 

You may not be interested. That has no bearing on the OP's situation.

 

 

I use udon Thani 

[youreavinalaff]

5 minutes ago, SERGERAMOS said:

I use udon Thani 

Check with them on extensions. Ask how many you can do per entry to Thailand.

 

If only one, obviously go for 60 days. 

[DrJack54]

22 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

The point is, we don't know what office the OP is using. Each office often implement their own rules

Indeed there are rogue offices that have their own rules.

The OP silly not to mention his intended immigration office.

 

Bit the same way you have made posts regarding your specific office and yet did not mention which office.

Bit of useless information.

 

Your earlier post....

"Our local immigration office will only allow on extension per entry. Either 30 or 60 days." 

 

So helpful...Not

 

[youreavinalaff]

7 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Indeed there are rogue offices that have their own rules.

The OP silly not to mention his intended immigration office.

 

Bit the same way you have made posts regarding your specific office and yet did not mention which office.

Bit of useless information.

 

Your earlier post....

"Our local immigration office will only allow on extension per entry. Either 30 or 60 days." 

 

So helpful...Not

 

You post is a great example of how you will never achieve your intention of replacing the immigration rule guru.

 

You take things too literally and personally.

 

This is a forum. Conversation is the name of the game. No leaders. Everyone throwing their hat into the ring. One post illiciting info from others. No hierarchy.

 

Try it.

[DrJack54]

9 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

One post illiciting info from others.

There is very little information contributed without naming the specific immigration office.

My office is CW. 

So which office did you state only allows one extension 30 or 60 days. 

 

[lanng khao]

On 12/16/2023 at 9:59 AM, youreavinalaff said:

Something else that needs to be checked.

 

I have done several 60 day extensions without my wife present.

No chance in korat, I'd rather go by myself if I could 

[DrJack54]

On 12/16/2023 at 4:59 PM, youreavinalaff said:

I have done several 60 day extensions without my wife present.

This thread attached suggests clearly that is not the case.

Have a read, in particular the posts from ubonjoe.

 

Also read reference to a 30 day extension in addition to 60 day extension to visit wife.

Those two extensions are in different categories hence no problem.

Suggest obtain the 30 day extension first. 

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1130123-re-60-day-extension-to-visit-your-wife/

[youreavinalaff]

7 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

There is very little information contributed without naming the specific immigration office.

My office is CW. 

So which office did you state only allows one extension 30 or 60 days. 

 

Like I said, no hierarchy.

 

My guess would be many posters, especially those who are not up to speed in immigration issues would not know what CW means. But.....there you go.

 

Mine is BCA. 

[Red Phoenix]

1 hour ago, youreavinalaff said:

Our local immigration office will only allow on extension per entry. Either 30 or 60 days.

That's probably because you first applied for the 60-day extension for reason of visiting your wife.  With an already extended Permission to stay Immigration might be reluctant to provide an additional 30-days extension.

Note that the 'other way around' (first applying for the 30-day extension and then for the 60-day extension), should be no problem. 

But this is Thailand, and different Imm Offices might impose their own rules. 

And you could of course apply at a different office Imm Office in another province when the Imm Office refuses to provide the 2nd extension. 

[youreavinalaff]

1 minute ago, DrJack54 said:

This thread attached suggests clearly that is not the case.

Have a read, in particular the posts from ubonjoe.

 

Also read reference to a 30 day extension in addition to 60 day extension to visit wife.

Those two extensions are in different categories hence no problem.

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1130123-re-60-day-extension-to-visit-your-wife/

That makes no difference to how different offices or even officers feel on the day.

 

The last time I needed a 60 day extension my wife was working. Immigration accepted the situation, saw I had the required paperwork and issued the extension.