I love everything about Pattaya what about you ?

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, jayboy said:

I've no objection to the Sin City concept  but the sheer dreariness and vulgarity is hard to stomach.

The "dreariness and vulgarity" is only there if you seek out the dreary and vulgar places.  If you don't, you'll never see it.

[FruitPudding]

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Most of the facilities of any international city.

 

I see you couldn't even think of one.

[FruitPudding]

Just now, Liverpool Lou said:

The "dreariness and vulgarity" is only there if you seek out the dreary and vulgar places.  If you don't, you'll never see it.

 

Okay, how do you spend your time?

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, FruitPudding said:

I see you couldn't even think of one.

 

Some people just hate the notion that others might enjoy living in Pattaya. I guess always people who don't live in Pattaya. By the way, I haven't been to WS in months and rarely go to soi 6 which is a 10 minute walk away.

[FruitPudding]

3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Some people just hate the notion that others might enjoy living in Pattaya. I guess always people who don't live in Pattaya. By the way, I haven't been to WS in months and rarely go to soi 6 which is a 10 minute walk away.

 

What do you do in Pattaya?

[ozimoron]

6 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

What do you do in Pattaya?

 

About ten times more interesting and entertaining stuff as I would do back home.

 

[Fat is a type of crazy]

10 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

 

What do you do in Pattaya?

It seems like a decent size city where you can do what you want but not too big like Bangkok. Food. Sport. Entertainment. If you need a bit of culture or a big show that's not available can go to Bangkok down the road. 

[Felton Jarvis]

When I was younger, Pattaya was more enjoyable. With age comes many infirmities and failures.  You can't shoot pool with a rope.  

[FruitPudding]

11 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

About ten times more interesting and entertaining stuff as I would do back home.

 

 

Well, it is sin city

[ozimoron]

5 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

Well, it is sin city

 

Sin, huh? Religiously loaded word that means zero to me. I never accepted that women working to support their families are sinful or in any way beneath the holiest of us all. And I was not referring to prostitution when I wrote that post. Your just flaming by innuendo.

 

Pretty sure I did post that I rarely go to soi 6 and even less often to WS. That said, I'm meeting some friends at soi 6 this evening at their request before proceeding to Hops restaurants to listen to Christmas songs by their resident singer.

Edited December 23, 2023 by ozimoron

[Reginald Prewster]

I came 2002 and chose Pattaya because it was easy for me to reach my jobs around the world within 36 hrs.

Cool is also that you get a lot of things like Cheese, Hams, Western Food (Name it you get it)...

Regarding good European Restaurants you could be sure that some of the owners worked that extra bit on quality to stand the hard competition.

 

As Freelancer a certain industry grew in Asia and I was right in the proximity, got great Contracts using Pattaya.

Mostly paying 3000 - 15000 Baht I could invite and fly in the HR Manager or Boss for the job inteview and drag him into a Pardise (All Asians love Walking Street)

You pickle them in Beer and Booze and spend a coin (around 30000 incl Barfine and Girl or two) where you could show you are "expensive"

Every contract was signed the next morning without hesitation.

 

On the other hand I met my wife there running a Pa Tong Ko chart in Soi Nern Plub Wan.

She was a farmer's daughter and I came from Coutryside Germany and I stayed in Pattaya Darkside never went to the redlight area without my customers or friends visiting me from Europe

 

My wife and I knew one day we will turn our back to Pattaya and return back to our roots.

 

Now living in Isaan I must admit that Pattaya was not right for me and I should have moved way earlier into Isaan which I consider the real Thailand.

 

I say:

Pattaya you can only love or hate and in my deepest feeling I always hated it, because the Moo Baan houses limit your activities if you love Farming. Citylife is pure stress and other reasons involving too many broken or dumb Farangs like once some Baloonchasers that spoiled the entire Buffet during my 50th B-day Party... 

 

Western Food and Groceries are now also in Abundance available in Khon Kaen, my best two Farang friends died in Pattaya so I have nothing left over there.

 

Missing Pattaya I must give a 100% "No" -but I cannot say that I didn't learn in Pattaya everything you need to know to live in Thailand.

Many farangs I could watch and say "so not" THAT is not retirement and the ones that were an example moved also Countryside or in the outside regions of Pattaya.

[Liverpool Lou]

40 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

41 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

The "dreariness and vulgarity" is only there if you seek out the dreary and vulgar places.  If you don't, you'll never see it.

 

Okay, how do you spend your time?

I spend my time avoiding dreariness and vulgarity.

[newnative]

3 hours ago, worgeordie said:

35 years living in Thailand ,been all over the North , North East , South and inbetween,

but have never been to Pattaya , just does not appeal to me ,not into spending all day

and night sitting in a bar , but many Expats seem happy to do that .

 

regards worgeordie

      Pattaya is a lot more than the bars and most expats do NOT spend all day and night sitting in a bar.   Pattaya is rapidly growing because it checks so many of the boxes that expats, both working and those retired, want in a place to live.  These include: good size--not too big or too small, good weather, good services, good health care choices, good recreation, good shopping, movie theaters in English, very good choice of housing both to buy or to rent, a nice selection of distinct neighborhoods to choose from, close proximity to a major city and a major airport, large and diverse expat community, coastal city with beach vibe and water activities, such as snorkeling, scuba, etc. 

      It checks more of the boxes than anywhere else we have visited in Thailand--and obviously does for many others, as well.   I actually find it to be a better place to live than a tourist attraction but it does have some nice resorts, such as Centara, Cape Dara, Centre Point Space, and others, as well as Nong Nooch Gardens and some nice water parks, with a new one under construction.

[Liverpool Lou]

47 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

51 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Just as there is an awful lot more to Bangkok than Nana, there's an awful lot more to Pattaya than what's in your mind.

 

Such as?

I'm sure that you're capable of doing your own research for the things that you like to occupy yourself with.  

[jayboy]

57 minutes ago, BigStar said:

 

That you're aware of, having seen little of Pattaya, but in fact there is, living in the upscale condos and the housing estates all around. Business owners, professionals, middle managers, etc. Kids going to private schools and later studying abroad, the whole bit. The dynamic growing economy built on international and domestic tourism and retirees has led to a surprisingly prosperous small city. 

 

The argument that the middle class isn't as large as Bangkok's is silly and irrelevant, given the respective sizes of the cities. The worry about "residency" is phony in any case. You don't have a credible argument.

 

 

 

Don't confuse the economic development of the Eastern Seaboard with the prostitution driven economic activity of Pattaya.

[scottiejohn]

1 hour ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

WTTFF is wrong with that statement? Anyone? 

What does WTTFF mean?

Please don't say go see Mr Google as he has no idea!

[ozimoron]

34 minutes ago, jayboy said:

Don't confuse the economic development of the Eastern Seaboard with the prostitution driven economic activity of Pattaya.

 

All the prostitutes in Thailand wouldn't generate anywhere near the revenue required to power the level of development going on in Pattaya.

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, FruitPudding said:

1 hour ago, ozimoron said:

 

Most of the facilities of any international city.

 

I see you couldn't even think of one.

Maybe you should tell him what you're looking for.   Perhaps you couldn't think of what it is?

[jayboy]

4 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

All the prostitutes in Thailand wouldn't generate anywhere near the revenue required to power the level of development going on in Pattaya.

 

As I have already tried to explain, an infrastructure has developed - hotels, supporting services, golf, Bangkok weekenders etc so that Pattaya has a momentum of its own and has in fact for several decades.But the truth is, which even major hoteliers don't deny, that it was built on prostitution.

 

I can think of other places round the globe which more discretely perhaps had the same kind of origin.What's unique to Pattaya is the mainly very downmarket clientele.Look at the farang influencers who promote Pattaya on social media.I mean just look at them.

[BigStar]

53 minutes ago, Reginald Prewster said:

the Moo Baan houses limit your activities if you love Farming.

 

Pattaya ain't the countryside, no. Wanna be a farmer in Isaan, you got to move to Isaan. Yup. 

 

53 minutes ago, Reginald Prewster said:

Citylife is pure stress and other reasons involving too many broken or dumb Farangs

 

I live a relaxed, peaceful life in Pattaya, as most retirees do, and don't deal with any broken or dumb farangs except on the forum.

 

53 minutes ago, Reginald Prewster said:

like once some Baloonchasers that spoiled the entire Buffet during my 50th B-day Party... 

 

OK. You probably don't want to hold your 50th B'day party at a bar with a buffet promotion for balloon chasers, unless you're one yourself. What was wrong with the Hilton? We surely have a thread about buffets on the forum somewhere.

 

53 minutes ago, Reginald Prewster said:

my best two Farang friends died in Pattaya

 

Died with smiles on their faces during a bonk, hopefully, as approved by our ANF Poster Life Coaches.

 

53 minutes ago, Reginald Prewster said:

Many farangs I could watch and say "so not" THAT is not retirement and the ones that were an example moved also Countryside or in the outside regions of Pattaya.

 

But farang live a wide variety of lifestyles in Pattaya, so that really excludes everyone.

 

Now I'd feel the same should I happen to notice some farang out in the sticks of Isaan working in a rice field.

 

 

Edited December 23, 2023 by BigStar

[ozimoron]

Just now, jayboy said:

 

As I have already tried to explain, an infrastructure has developed - hotels, supporting services, golf, Bangkok weekenders etc so that Pattaya has a momentum of its own and has in fact for several decades.But the truth is, which even major hoteliers don't deny, that it was built on prostitution.

 

I can think of other places round the globe which more discretely perhaps had the same kind of origin.What's unique to Pattaya is the mainly very downmarket clientele.Look at the farang influencers who promote Pattaya on social media.I mean just look at them.

 

You were discussing the present. And I dispute that prostitution was ever the main driving force behind Pattaya. Bangkok in the 80's and before simply blew both Pattaya and Phuket out of the water when it came to bang for the buck.

[Doctor Tom]

Although I live within 30km of Pattaya, I only really go there to do the weekly grocery shopping.  I'm fairly ambivalent about the City itself, (as I am with all Cities) but I do like the diverse number of good quality restaurants and the well equipped and accessible amenities, such as hospitals.  It's why I chose to live near the City, but I would not wish to live in it. 

[newnative]

1 hour ago, FruitPudding said:

 

Okay, how do you spend your time?

      I can only speak for myself, but I spend my time in Pattaya about the same as I did in the US.  When I moved to Thailand I did not become a different person.  Many of the things I enjoyed in the US, I also enjoy in Pattaya.  That's also true for my spouse.  We enjoy movies so we like that Pattaya has a choice of movie theaters that show movies in English.  We both also like to travel so it's great that a big airport is nearby.  We are just back from a China trip.

    In America, my spouse and I were involved with fixing up properties and selling them and we have been doing that here, as well.  Since 2010, we have done twentysome of them, which keeps us busy.  We really like the housing variety Pattaya has, and the different neighborhoods.

    I love to swim but didn't do it as much as I would have liked in the US, due to the weather.  Here, I can swim year-round, in my own pool--which I likely couldn't afford in the US.

    We love to eat out--both here and in the US--and Pattaya has such a wide variety of restaurants to choose from--actually more than where we lived in the US.  We have our favorites but we also like trying new restaurants--and there's always something new.  We just found a new seafood restaurant near where we live on the Darkside.

     We didn't have a huge number of friends in the US, and it's the same here.  Instead, we have a nice circle of friends that we socialize with and we value their company.  We are fortunate that Pattaya has attracted some very nice expats--and we have met some of them and become friends.

    One new thing we have done here is snorkeling, which we didn't do in the US.  We have done it a number of times--both in boat trips from Sattahip and when we have visited other places around Thailand--most recently on a trip to Koh Lipe.

     We enjoy shopping and antiquing and discovering interesting shops and Pattaya is big enough to have plenty in the way of shopping choices--everything from large malls to one-of-a-kind stores.  Today, we did some shopping at a large OTOP store that had a lot of different Thai crafts and then went to another store we like that specializes in old and antique items from Japan--always an interesting stop for us.  Found a really nice wall scroll that we'll use in a future project.

     So, as you can see, we are living ordinary, normal lives here in Pattaya.  Doing ordinary, normal things.  If we were living in Chiang Mai or Hua Hin it would not be much different.  I think we are not alone in this.  

    

[TroubleandGrumpy]

1 hour ago, scottiejohn said:

What does WTTFF mean?

Please don't say go see Mr Google as he has no idea!

It means WTF - but last time I used that it was edited. Trying again in this answer to WTF is WTTFF.  

[TroubleandGrumpy]

50 minutes ago, Doctor Tom said:

Although I live within 30km of Pattaya, I only really go there to do the weekly grocery shopping.  I'm fairly ambivalent about the City itself, (as I am with all Cities) but I do like the diverse number of good quality restaurants and the well equipped and accessible amenities, such as hospitals.  It's why I chose to live near the City, but I would not wish to live in it. 

Ditto - we are close but not too close. 

[georgegeorgia]

3 hours ago, Doctor Tom said:

Although I live within 30km of Pattaya, I only really go there to do the weekly grocery shopping.  I'm fairly ambivalent about the City itself, (as I am with all Cities) but I do like the diverse number of good quality restaurants and the well equipped and accessible amenities, such as hospitals.  It's why I chose to live near the City, but I would not wish to live in it. 

Absolutely!

The only downer is I guess living 30km out of Pattaya is forced to own a car 

If they had better transport on the Darkside I would consider it 

[Doctor Tom]

4 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Absolutely!

The only downer is I guess living 30km out of Pattaya is forced to own a car 

If they had better transport on the Darkside I would consider it 

Yes, a car is pretty much essential where I live, but it's peaceful, quiet and picturesque. Difficult to say that about a City. 

Edited December 23, 2023 by Doctor Tom

[stoner]

4 hours ago, FruitPudding said:

 

What do you do in Pattaya?

 

you never did receive an answer to this. 

[Lacessit]

I've been to Pattaya several times, does little for me. Expensive. Chiang Rai is my preference, each to his own.

Note to BMT: There is plenty of sex available in Chiang Mai and Chiang Rai.

[Northstar1]

10 hours ago, worgeordie said:

35 years living in Thailand ,been all over the North , North East , South and inbetween,

but have never been to Pattaya , just does not appeal to me ,not into spending all day

and night sitting in a bar , but many Expats seem happy to do that .

 

regards worgeordie

You can sit in front of mikes mall and gaze out to sea with a thousand yard stare! Like the rest of them