Donald Trump blocked from Maine presidential ballot in 2024

[Jingthing]

Well ballot blocking won't stop him, but maybe this will?

 

 

[uncletiger]

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Well ballot blocking won't stop him, but maybe this will?

 

 

 

 

Mocking Trump will do nothing, because it isn't Trump who is driving this. Those who hate him simply want to believe it is this simple. In fact, most of Trump's supporters also find his public persona disagreeable. What *IS* driving Trump's popularity is that he is the only one willing to stand up and say he is going to bring the entire diseased temple of DC politics down. (Credit to the movie "Law Abiding Citizen")

 

Unless and until the globalists and radical left accept the whole charade is over, and that they have lost, nothing will stop Trump. Nothing.

 

Tell me the odds the entire Uniparty, including the Democrats and RINOs will all stand up and say "Hey! American public. You are right. We *ARE* mostly pedophiles and are ALL traitors to America. We apologize and want to go to prison and make amends for the horrors to which we have subjected you."  Because *THAT* is the only thing that could stop Trump. Otherwise, Nothing can stop what is coming.

 

But this nonsense will continue until July 18, when Trump officially becomes the Republican nominee for president in 2024. And at that point, when they no longer have the chance of stopping him, the Uniparty will switch from merely trying to malign Trump, to trying to cancel the 2024 election entirely. That's when the predictive programming they have told us about in Netflix movies like "Civil War" and "Leave the World Behind" will be realized. And they won't care how many people they will need to kill in order to do this. Get ready.

 

Personally, and there is no evidence other than my own personal speculation, I think they'll try and launch a Marburg/Ebola virus at the Paris Olympics. But the Uniparty will definitely throw everything they can at stopping the election in November after the July RNC. Count on it.

 

 

 

 

[thaicurious]

10 minutes ago, DudleySquat said:

 

Where has it been proven that Trump did anything related to an insurrection? 

 

I'll wait.

 

There is no requirement of the 14th Amendment (as a so-called originalist maga appointed supreme court jurist with any integrity must agree as the Constitution is indeed so written) that he be convicted of insurrection for ...

 

"We hold these truths to be self-evident" (phrase familiar?) July 4, 1776

 

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/amendment-14/section-3/

Fourteenth Amendment  Equal Protection and Other Rights

Section 3 Disqualification from Holding Office

No person shall ... hold any office, civil or military, under the United States ... who, having previously taken an oath ... as an officer of the United States ... to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof ... " (bolding & three dotting mine)

 

+ that he called for pardoning convicted seditionists (which by definition of pardoning IS giving aid or comfort) AND called for "overturning" (his word) a duly done election proven legit in courts whereby he contested but lost 62 lawsuits (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-election_lawsuits_related_to_the_2020_U.S._presidential_election) throughout the country including in conservative & in his own maga appointed courts (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/07/13/trump-appointed-judges-keep-ruling-against-trump-co-jan-6/) + (https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2023/07/31/who-is-the-trump-appointed-judge-who-threw-out-trumps-big-lie-lawsuit-against-cnn/) (etc etc)

 

= you can stop waiting now.

[candide]

2 hours ago, uncletiger said:

 

 

Mocking Trump will do nothing, because it isn't Trump who is driving this. Those who hate him simply want to believe it is this simple. In fact, most of Trump's supporters also find his public persona disagreeable. What *IS* driving Trump's popularity is that he is the only one willing to stand up and say he is going to bring the entire diseased temple of DC politics down. (Credit to the movie "Law Abiding Citizen")

 

Unless and until the globalists and radical left accept the whole charade is over, and that they have lost, nothing will stop Trump. Nothing.

 

Tell me the odds the entire Uniparty, including the Democrats and RINOs will all stand up and say "Hey! American public. You are right. We *ARE* mostly pedophiles and are ALL traitors to America. We apologize and want to go to prison and make amends for the horrors to which we have subjected you."  Because *THAT* is the only thing that could stop Trump. Otherwise, Nothing can stop what is coming.

 

But this nonsense will continue until July 18, when Trump officially becomes the Republican nominee for president in 2024. And at that point, when they no longer have the chance of stopping him, the Uniparty will switch from merely trying to malign Trump, to trying to cancel the 2024 election entirely. That's when the predictive programming they have told us about in Netflix movies like "Civil War" and "Leave the World Behind" will be realized. And they won't care how many people they will need to kill in order to do this. Get ready.

 

Personally, and there is no evidence other than my own personal speculation, I think they'll try and launch a Marburg/Ebola virus at the Paris Olympics. But the Uniparty will definitely throw everything they can at stopping the election in November after the July RNC. Count on it.

 

 

 

 

Maybe the stuff you take is a bit too strong?

[DudleySquat]

3 hours ago, thaicurious said:

 

There is no requirement of the 14th Amendment (as a so-called originalist maga appointed supreme court jurist with any integrity must agree as the Constitution is indeed so written) that he be convicted of insurrection for ...

 

"We hold these truths to be self-evident" (phrase familiar?) July 4, 1776

 

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/amendment-14/section-3/

Fourteenth Amendment  Equal Protection and Other Rights

Section 3 Disqualification from Holding Office

No person shall ... hold any office, civil or military, under the United States ... who, having previously taken an oath ... as an officer of the United States ... to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof ... " (bolding & three dotting mine)

 

+ that he called for pardoning convicted seditionists (which by definition of pardoning IS giving aid or comfort) AND called for "overturning" (his word) a duly done election proven legit in courts whereby he contested but lost 62 lawsuits (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-election_lawsuits_related_to_the_2020_U.S._presidential_election) throughout the country including in conservative & in his own maga appointed courts (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/07/13/trump-appointed-judges-keep-ruling-against-trump-co-jan-6/) + (https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2023/07/31/who-is-the-trump-appointed-judge-who-threw-out-trumps-big-lie-lawsuit-against-cnn/) (etc etc)

 

= you can stop waiting now.

 

I'm still waiting

 

Section 3

 

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

 

Show me proof that what Trump did or did not do was considered an insurrection. 

 

Again, I'll wait for a valid answer to my query. 

[quake]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Americans might not want a very old president although Trump is also very old.

 

Yes very true, I give you that one. 

[bendejo]

It was DT's niece, Mary, who revealed that he wears a corset.  This was back when she first started her public comments on dear uncle.  If you notice when he stands still he is bent forward at the waist in a peculiar way because of it, she pointed out.  The purpose is to keep the lard in place.  Also, because getting into and out of the corset is so complex he wears a diaper so he doesn't have to deal with it.  The stink is one thing, the other is the chafing, which can cause a chronic case of bad mood. 

 

 

We know that he knows how to stand straight because he attended a reform school military academy in his youth. 

I recently noticed that when he does the fist salute he doesn't make a proper fist.

It seems a good bet that Mr Tough Guy from Queens never had to defend himself in a fist fight.

 

 

Edited January 1 by bendejo

[Danderman123]

13 hours ago, impulse said:

 

Took awhile to find this, since I'm sure they'd rather we didn't.

 

It took 244 years from 1776 to 2020 for the USA to get to 3.26 million illegal immigrants wandering around the country.  It took Biden less than 3 years to get that number up to 6.2 million.  And those are just the ones they have paperwork on.  Counting getaways, I suspect Biden doubled the number in just 3 years.

 

 

https://www.ice.gov/doclib/eoy/iceAnnualReportFY2023.pdf

 

The Biden administration’s ICE authorities carried out 142,580 deportations in fiscal year 2023, according to an agency report released Friday.

(while adding 1.44 million to the "Non-Detained docket"  Deportation amounted to less than 10% of net arrivals.)

 

https://dailycaller.com/2023/12/30/ice-held-less-37000-migrants-in-detention-2023-while-more-6-million-went-free-report-shows/

 

 

Apparently, you didn't actually read this document. Your Internet masters sent it to you, presumably without explanation.

 

The non detained illegals are pending resolution of their legal status, asylum seekers, minor children, etc.

[Danderman123]

7 hours ago, uncletiger said:

 

 

Mocking Trump will do nothing, because it isn't Trump who is driving this. Those who hate him simply want to believe it is this simple. In fact, most of Trump's supporters also find his public persona disagreeable. What *IS* driving Trump's popularity is that he is the only one willing to stand up and say he is going to bring the entire diseased temple of DC politics down. (Credit to the movie "Law Abiding Citizen")

 

Unless and until the globalists and radical left accept the whole charade is over, and that they have lost, nothing will stop Trump. Nothing.

 

Tell me the odds the entire Uniparty, including the Democrats and RINOs will all stand up and say "Hey! American public. You are right. We *ARE* mostly pedophiles and are ALL traitors to America. We apologize and want to go to prison and make amends for the horrors to which we have subjected you."  Because *THAT* is the only thing that could stop Trump. Otherwise, Nothing can stop what is coming.

 

But this nonsense will continue until July 18, when Trump officially becomes the Republican nominee for president in 2024. And at that point, when they no longer have the chance of stopping him, the Uniparty will switch from merely trying to malign Trump, to trying to cancel the 2024 election entirely. That's when the predictive programming they have told us about in Netflix movies like "Civil War" and "Leave the World Behind" will be realized. And they won't care how many people they will need to kill in order to do this. Get ready.

 

Personally, and there is no evidence other than my own personal speculation, I think they'll try and launch a Marburg/Ebola virus at the Paris Olympics. But the Uniparty will definitely throw everything they can at stopping the election in November after the July RNC. Count on it.

 

 

 

 

Wow.

 

If you weren't joking, you have some issues.

 

Do you still believe in Pizzagate?

[thaicurious]

3 hours ago, DudleySquat said:

or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof

 

[impulse]

9 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Well ballot blocking won't stop him, but maybe this will?

 

Gosh, here's a thought.  Why not let the American voters decide? 

 

Are Dems that contemptuous of American voters that they won't allow us to decide?

 

[thaibeachlovers]

22 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Nope.

 

Following the Constitution by barring insurrectionists isn't Fascism.

 

Do you disagree?

 

On a side note, postwar Germany barred Nazis from public office. Was that Fascism?

Trump has not been convicted of that. Are you saying the constitution allows penalty without conviction?

[thaicurious]

7 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Gosh, here's a thought.  Why not let the American voters decide? 

 

Are Dems that contemptuous of American voters that they won't allow us to decide?

 

Democrats don't decide eligibility; the US Constitution does.

[thaibeachlovers]

14 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Gosh, here's a thought.  Why not let the American voters decide? 

 

Are Dems that contemptuous of American voters that they won't allow us to decide?

 

Yes.

[Danderman123]

7 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Trump has not been convicted of that. Are you saying the constitution allows penalty without conviction?

The Civil War insurrectionists who were barred from office by the 14th Amendment were never convicted of sedition.

 

No one who was ever disqualified by the 14th Amendment was ever convicted before they were disqualified.

 

The Supreme Court really needs to fix this.

Edited January 2 by Danderman123

[thaicurious]

6 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Trump has not been convicted of that. Are you saying the constitution allows penalty without conviction?

https://www.citizensforethics.org/news/analysis/legal-experts-across-the-ideological-spectrum-agree-the-14th-amendment-disqualifies-trump-from-holding-office/

"...prominent conservative law professors and Federalist Society members William Baude and Michael Stokes Paulsen authored a 126-page paper exploring the enforceability of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment in the case of January 6th.

Overall, it seems to us to be quite clear that the specific series of events leading up to and culminating in the January 6, 2021 attack qualifies as an insurrection within the meaning of Section Three: “concerted, forcible resistance to the authority of government to execute the laws in at least some significant respect.”

They explained that as a self-executing provision, Section 3 doesn’t require any action by Congress—and it doesn’t require a criminal conviction.

No action is necessary to “activate” Section Three as a prerequisite to its application as law by bodies or persons whose responsibilities call for its application. The Constitution’s qualification and disqualification rules exist and possess legal force in their own right, which is what makes them applicable and enforceable by a variety of officials in a variety of contexts."

[impulse]

3 minutes ago, thaicurious said:

They explained that as a self-executing provision, Section 3 doesn’t require any action by Congress—and it doesn’t require a criminal conviction.

No action is necessary to “activate” Section Three as a prerequisite to its application as law by bodies or persons whose responsibilities call for its application. The Constitution’s qualification and disqualification rules exist and possess legal force in their own right, which is what makes them applicable and enforceable by a variety of officials in a variety of contexts."

 

You could easily say the same about the deliberate neglect of protecting the sovereign borders of the USA.

 

The results would be just as wrong.

 

 

[thaicurious]

5 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

You could easily say the same about the deliberate neglect of protecting the sovereign borders of the USA.

 

The results would be just as wrong.

 

 

Immigration is not sedition. Nice try tho.

[impulse]

4 minutes ago, thaicurious said:

Immigration is not sedition. Nice try tho.

 

That's one opinion.  Just like the Maine SOS's opinion.  Quite a few Repub SOS's and election officials don't share that opinion.  Deliberately allowing unvetted illegals to flow across the border doesn't sit well with them.

 

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

Gosh, here's a thought.  Why not let the American voters decide? 

 

Are Dems that contemptuous of American voters that they won't allow us to decide?

 

How about following the constitution?

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Trump has not been convicted of that. Are you saying the constitution allows penalty without conviction?

Are people undet 35 convicted?

[Danderman123]

49 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

That's one opinion.  Just like the Maine SOS's opinion.  Quite a few Repub SOS's and election officials don't share that opinion.  Deliberately allowing unvetted illegals to flow across the border doesn't sit well with them.

 

When the economy is good, you rant about the border.

[DudleySquat]

9 hours ago, bendejo said:

It seems a good bet that Mr Tough Guy from Queens never had to defend himself in a fist fight.

 

Are you British? 

[DudleySquat]

8 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Do you still believe in Pizzagate?

 

Pizza is one of the codewords used by the loony John Podesta when he wants to order little boys and girls for his sexual gratification. Read his leaked emails. 

[DudleySquat]

The title should read: Former President Donald Trump unconstitutionally blocked from ballot from Rogue SOS unilaterally. 

 

It's a joke. It won't survive an appellate court, let alone the Supreme Court. 

[thaicurious]

1 hour ago, DudleySquat said:

The title should read: Former President Donald Trump unconstitutionally blocked from ballot from Rogue SOS unilaterally. 

 

It's a joke. It won't survive an appellate court, let alone the Supreme Court. 

Won't survive an appellate court huh? Well, joke's on you because besides that the Supreme Court of the United States aka SCOTUS is also an appellate court, Colorado's case has already been heard and decided against the orange insurrectionist by its highest appellate court, The Supreme Court of Colorado.

 

https://apnews.com/article/trump-insurrection-14th-amendment-2024-colorado-d16dd8f354eeaf450558378c65fd79a2

"“A majority of the court holds that Trump is disqualified from holding the office of president under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment,” the court wrote in its 4-3 decision." (Note also that) "a district court judge ... found that Trump incited an insurrection for his role in the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol"

Edited January 2 by thaicurious

[ozimoron]

2 hours ago, DudleySquat said:

The title should read: Former President Donald Trump unconstitutionally blocked from ballot from Rogue SOS unilaterally. 

 

It's a joke. It won't survive an appellate court, let alone the Supreme Court. 

 

I would bet that the appellate court rules one way or the other and the supreme court refuses the docket, pitching it back to the states. If the SC were to rule on the issue they would have to conclude that the president can't gun down people in central park and get away with it.

 

The states will be free to do what they want with the ballots since they all mange their own elections and have different rules. So, the blue states will throw trump off the ballot and the red states won't. The effect of that will be trump voters in blue states staying home which will swing the down ballot heavily blue even if it doesn't affect the presidential electoral college outcome.

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[Danderman123]

3 hours ago, DudleySquat said:

 

Pizza is one of the codewords used by the loony John Podesta when he wants to order little boys and girls for his sexual gratification. Read his leaked emails. 

Do you believe that there was a pedophile ring operating out of the basement of a Washington area pizza restaurant?

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, ozimoron said:

 

I would bet that the appellate court rules one way or the other and the supreme court refuses the docket, pitching it back to the states. If the SC were to rule on the issue they would have to conclude that the president can't gun down people in central park and get away with it.

 

The states will be free to do what they want with the ballots since they all mange their own elections and have different rules. So, the blue states will throw trump off the ballot and the red states won't. The effect of that will be trump voters in blue states staying home which will swing the down ballot heavily blue even if it doesn't affect the presidential electoral college outcome.

I hope not, the result would be a mess.