The horrors endured by Hamas's hostages: Barely any food, forced to sleep on plastic chairs, waiting to be executed...

[CharlieH]

 

As groups of Israeli hostages were released from Gaza in recent days, an army of medics, child protection experts and trauma specialists battened down the hatches and shielded them from the media spotlight.

But with a four-day truce between Israel and Hamas now in its final 24 hours, a picture has started to emerge about the dire conditions in which the freed hostages were being held by the terror group over the last seven weeks.

Their relatives have spoken of plastic chairs as beds, irregular meals of bread and rice, and hours spent waiting for the bathroom.

Some of the freed hostages have lost significant weight, and have told their loved ones how they had no sense of time passing in Gaza.

In one 84-year-old woman's case, it is reported that she was not given vital medication while in Gaza, and that she is currently in an 'unstable' condition.

Another elderly woman said she feared she was on her way to be executed in the build up to her release, only to find that she was being freed.

 

As of Monday morning, of the roughly 240 people dragged into Gaza by Hamas in its brutal October 7 attack, 62 hostages have been released (made up of Israelis and foreigners), one was freed by Israeli forces, and two were found dead inside Gaza.

Of those released, 58 were freed under a cease-fire deal over the past three days. Four others were freed earlier in the conflict.

A total of 14 hostages with Israel citizenship were returned to Israel on Sunday, the third day of a four-day truce deal with Hamas that will see a total of 50 Israeli captives freed in exchange for 150 Palestinian prisoners.

Under the terms of the agreement, one more group of captives is set to be handed over to Israel in exchange for Palestinian prisoners before the end of the truce.

It's possible that the temporary ceasefire could be extended if more hostages are exchanged, but so far, nothing has been confirmed by either side. Hostilities are set to resume on Tuesday unless an extension deal can be struck.

Therefore, an agonising wait continues for those who still have relatives inside the coastal strip, and they more than anyone will be listening intently for any information about how their loved ones are being treated by Hamas.

Those freed in recent days have largely stayed out of the public eye.

 

 

As of Monday morning, of the roughly 240 people dragged into Gaza by Hamas in its brutal October 7 attack, 62 hostages have been released 

 

 

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[Bkk Brian]

 

 

Relying on video footage, photographs, GPS data from mobile phones and interviews with more than 150 people, including witnesses, medical personnel, soldiers and rape counselors, The Times identified at least seven locations where Israeli women and girls appear to have been sexually assaulted or mutilated.

The Times viewed photographs of one woman’s corpse that emergency responders discovered in the rubble of a besieged kibbutz with dozens of nails driven into her thighs and groin.

https://archive.ph/7tF0P

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/28/world/middleeast/oct-7-attacks-hamas-israel-sexual-violence.html

 

Tamed down version here:

 

NYT report details weaponization of sexual violence during Oct. 7 terror onslaught

The two-month investigation included interviews with more than 150 witnesses, medical personnel, soldiers, rape counselors and government officials along with the scanning of video footage, photographs and GPS data from cell phones.

NYT says it identified at least seven locations where Israeli women and girls were apparently sexually abused or mutilated and those the paper interviewed described finding the bodies of more than 30 women around the Re’im rave site.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/nyt-report-details-weaponization-of-sexual-violence-during-oct-7-terror-onslaught/

 

[Rimmer]

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[billd766]

It must be hard for them.

 

Their OWN Israeli government has stopped food, water, fuel and medical supplies to EVERYONE in Gaza.

 

It is harder still for the 1.9 MILLION Palestinian refugees who have nowhere safe to go to, to sleep, every hospital is overcrowded and men, women, children and even babies are apparently dying every day due to lack of medical supplies, food, water, electricity etc

 

They are constantly bombed, shelled and attacked by the IDF.

 

Why do the hostages expect better treatment than the Palestinians, who never had much to begin with. If the hostages are also bombed, shelled and shot at, they should ask themselves who is doing it, and WHY.

[Bkk Brian]

14 minutes ago, billd766 said:

It must be hard for them.

 

Their OWN Israeli government has stopped food, water, fuel and medical supplies to EVERYONE in Gaza.

 

It is harder still for the 1.9 MILLION Palestinian refugees who have nowhere safe to go to, to sleep, every hospital is overcrowded and men, women, children and even babies are apparently dying every day due to lack of medical supplies, food, water, electricity etc

 

They are constantly bombed, shelled and attacked by the IDF.

 

Why do the hostages expect better treatment than the Palestinians, who never had much to begin with. If the hostages are also bombed, shelled and shot at, they should ask themselves who is doing it, and WHY.

Their OWN Israeli government has stopped food, water, fuel and medical supplies to EVERYONE in Gaza.

 

What a complete and utter load of <deleted>:

 

https://twitter.com/cogatonline/status/1740407917017518425

 

https://twitter.com/cogatonline/status/1740462339315626335

 

[Morch]

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

It must be hard for them.

 

Their OWN Israeli government has stopped food, water, fuel and medical supplies to EVERYONE in Gaza.

 

It is harder still for the 1.9 MILLION Palestinian refugees who have nowhere safe to go to, to sleep, every hospital is overcrowded and men, women, children and even babies are apparently dying every day due to lack of medical supplies, food, water, electricity etc

 

They are constantly bombed, shelled and attacked by the IDF.

 

Why do the hostages expect better treatment than the Palestinians, who never had much to begin with. If the hostages are also bombed, shelled and shot at, they should ask themselves who is doing it, and WHY.

 

@billd766

 

Way to go Bill.....you're just one step away from making it the hostages' own fault.

 

Hamas hijacked these people.

You're trying to hijack this topic.

[billd766]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

Their OWN Israeli government has stopped food, water, fuel and medical supplies to EVERYONE in Gaza.

 

What a complete and utter load of <deleted>:

 

https://twitter.com/cogatonline/status/1740407917017518425

 

https://twitter.com/cogatonline/status/1740462339315626335

 

Wow, 109 trucks, 1,880 tons and ONLY 2.2 MILLION Palestinians.

 

I am sure that the Palestinians will live like Kings and Queens in their palaces for months on that issue. I hope that they are so grateful that the will stop the murderous war for ever and surrender the entire Palestinian people to their wonderful, compassionate and friendly IDF new best friends.

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Wow, 109 trucks, 1,880 tons and ONLY 2.2 MILLION Palestinians.

 

I am sure that the Palestinians will live like Kings and Queens in their palaces for months on that issue. I hope that they are so grateful that the will stop the murderous war for ever and surrender the entire Palestinian people to their wonderful, compassionate and friendly IDF new best friends.

That is daily........pretty sure that was a deliberate error on your part.

[billd766]

8 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

That is daily........pretty sure that was a deliberate error on your part.

Well thought out post.

 

You obviously failed sarcasm 101.

 

So all those supplies are to last 2.2 MILLION Palestinians for a whole day, And if nothing is delivered the next day, then what do the 2.2 MILLION Palestinians live on?

[Bkk Brian]

11 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Well thought out post.

 

You obviously failed sarcasm 101.

 

So all those supplies are to last 2.2 MILLION Palestinians for a whole day, And if nothing is delivered the next day, then what do the 2.2 MILLION Palestinians live on?

Sarcasm, and then you want an answer to a dumb question, there are trucks everyday, sometimes over 200 per day, plenty of food to go round, the problems are not food amounts, they are delivery and stopping Hamas stealing the trucks.

 

Oh by the way @billd766 you claimed there was none, why lie?

 

"Their OWN Israeli government has stopped food, water, fuel and medical supplies to EVERYONE in Gaza."

 

 

Edited December 30, 2023 by Bkk Brian

[Yellowtail]

2 hours ago, billd766 said:

It must be hard for them.

 

Their OWN Israeli government has stopped food, water, fuel and medical supplies to EVERYONE in Gaza.

 

It is harder still for the 1.9 MILLION Palestinian refugees who have nowhere safe to go to, to sleep, every hospital is overcrowded and men, women, children and even babies are apparently dying every day due to lack of medical supplies, food, water, electricity etc

 

They are constantly bombed, shelled and attacked by the IDF.

 

Why do the hostages expect better treatment than the Palestinians, who never had much to begin with. If the hostages are also bombed, shelled and shot at, they should ask themselves who is doing it, and WHY.

Too bad it wasn't your mother, sister, wife or daughter taken hostage, then your lecture on how being gang-raped by animals is easier than being one the Palestinians that started the war when they tore them from their homes might be a little more believable. 

 

 

[jak2002003]

Shows what these Muslims are like there. Sooner Isreal gets control of them the better. 

[Morch]

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

Wow, 109 trucks, 1,880 tons and ONLY 2.2 MILLION Palestinians.

 

I am sure that the Palestinians will live like Kings and Queens in their palaces for months on that issue. I hope that they are so grateful that the will stop the murderous war for ever and surrender the entire Palestinian people to their wonderful, compassionate and friendly IDF new best friends.

 

@billd766

 

I am sure that things weren't like that on 6/10.

 

[Morch]

39 minutes ago, jak2002003 said:

Shows what these Muslims are like there. Sooner Isreal gets control of them the better. 

 

Yeah, like what Israel needs is another 2+ million Palestinians to 'control'.

[billd766]

4 hours ago, billd766 said:

It must be hard for them.

 

Their OWN Israeli government has stopped food, water, fuel and medical supplies to EVERYONE in Gaza.

 

It is harder still for the 1.9 MILLION Palestinian refugees who have nowhere safe to go to, to sleep, every hospital is overcrowded and men, women, children and even babies are apparently dying every day due to lack of medical supplies, food, water, electricity etc

 

They are constantly bombed, shelled and attacked by the IDF.

 

Why do the hostages expect better treatment than the Palestinians, who never had much to begin with. If the hostages are also bombed, shelled and shot at, they should ask themselves who is doing it, and WHY.

So far on this post I have collected 5 confused emojis and a response from a poster who seems to believe that the Israeli/Palestinian "war" only started this year, and not at least a couple of hundred years ago.

Edited December 30, 2023 by billd766

[Morch]

3 minutes ago, billd766 said:

So far on this post I have collected 5 confused emojis and a response from a poster who seems to believe that the Israeli/Palestinian "war" only started this year, and not at least a couple of hundred years ago.

 

Counting is important, keep it up.

[coolcarer]

16 minutes ago, billd766 said:

So far on this post I have collected 5 confused emojis and a response from a poster who seems to believe that the Israeli/Palestinian "war" only started this year, and not at least a couple of hundred years ago.

Seeing as your counting I decided to give you a confused emoji too. You now have 6.

[billd766]

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

So far on this post I have collected 5 confused emojis and a response from a poster who seems to believe that the Israeli/Palestinian "war" only started this year, and not at least a couple of hundred years ago.

I didn't think I was clever enough to confuse other, younger and smarter posters.

[billd766]

56 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

Seeing as your counting I decided to give you a confused emoji too. You now have 6.

Thank you very much.

 

The way I am collecting them I will soon have enough to print out at make some Xmas decorations.

[Rimmer]

An off topic history lesson has been removed

[scottiejohn]

2 hours ago, billd766 said:

So far on this post I have collected 5 confused emojis and a response from a poster who seems to believe that the Israeli/Palestinian "war" only started this year, and not at least a couple of hundred years ago.

That could be because you appear to be a little bit confused about the history of this subject/topic!

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

That could be because you appear to be a little bit confused about the history of this subject/topic!

He's not confused. 

[Nick Carter icp]

2 hours ago, billd766 said:

So far on this post I have collected 5 confused emojis and a response from a poster who seems to believe that the Israeli/Palestinian "war" only started this year, and not at least a couple of hundred years ago.

 

   Haven't you had this discussion before ?

I replied to that point about five times in various threads already

[Neeranam]

7 hours ago, billd766 said:

It must be hard for them.

 

Their OWN Israeli government has stopped food, water, fuel and medical supplies to EVERYONE in Gaza.

 

It is harder still for the 1.9 MILLION Palestinian refugees who have nowhere safe to go to, to sleep, every hospital is overcrowded and men, women, children and even babies are apparently dying every day due to lack of medical supplies, food, water, electricity etc

 

They are constantly bombed, shelled and attacked by the IDF.

 

Why do the hostages expect better treatment than the Palestinians, who never had much to begin with. If the hostages are also bombed, shelled and shot at, they should ask themselves who is doing it, and WHY.

Exactly, and these elder hostages should remember they are still alive, unlike 8,200 children their country has KILLED so will never see adulthood. 

Complaining about plastic chairs, jeez. 

[CharlieH]

Inflammatory/ trolling remarks removed.

[Bkk Brian]

18 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Exactly, and these elder hostages should remember they are still alive, unlike 8,200 children their country has KILLED so will never see adulthood. 

Complaining about plastic chairs, jeez. 

Sick off topic victim blaming. 

[Nick Carter icp]

23 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Exactly, and these elder hostages should remember they are still alive, unlike 8,200 children their country has KILLED so will never see adulthood. 

Complaining about plastic chairs, jeez. 

 

   The hostages will know that those children would still be alive, if the hostages were not being held hostage 

[billd766]

4 hours ago, billd766 said:

So far on this post I have collected 5 confused emojis and a response from a poster who seems to believe that the Israeli/Palestinian "war" only started this year, and not at least a couple of hundred years ago.

O goody.

 

More confused emojis for my collection.

 

2 hours ago, scottiejohn said:

 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

Just now, billd766 said:

O goody.

 

More confused emojis for my collection.

 

 

 

  You don't have to keep posting about it , you don't have to tell anyone about confused received emoojis , just like posters don't need to mention whom they have on ignore .

   Hamas supporters seem to have that thing in common 

[billd766]

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

He's not confused. 

Thank you.

 

No I am not confused.

 

Unlike many posters I try to do some research and look at both sides.

 

What Hamas did, NOT the Palestinians, did was very bad.

 

What the IDF is doing is far worse. They are committing genocide. If you don't believe me then start reading/watching the international news channels.

 

I am not bothered what posters say or think on an insignificant English language website in Thailand, but more at what innocent people are suffering in Gaza.

 

Look at how many people world wide feel something similar to the way that I feel, and there are hundreds of thousands of them in many countries across the world, governments included.

 

They are condemning Israel every day.