Pita unveils the Move Forward party’s strategic roadmap for 2024

[snoop1130]

 

Move Forward party’s advisory chairman Pita Limjaroenrat has today unveiled the party’s strategic roadmap for this year, which includes its six major agenda items, or “Big bangs”, the party’s performance in parliament and within the party, which can be measured using Key Performance Indicators (KPIs), and the party’s push for the passage of 47 bills.

 

He listed the six “Big Bangs” as follows:

 

1. Democratisation of Thailand, which includes military reform, the scrapping of mandatory military conscription, military reform and the drafting of a new Constitution.
2. Quality of life improvements for the Thai people, which encompasses improvements to the public transport system, welfare, healthcare and environment.
3. Improvements to conditions in rural areas, which include cuts in farm production costs, increased use of machinery in production processes, farmer’s debt, improvements to water resources and the upgrading of Sor Por Kor land reform certificates into title deeds.
4. The complete overhaul of national budgeting, decentralisation of authorities and corruption suppression.
5. Development of learning systems, with the introduction of new curricula to ease burden on teachers and to reduce authoritarian systems in schools.
6. Support for SMEs, quality tourism, the creative economy and new industries.

 

Full story: Thai PBS 2024-01-26

 

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[sungod]

He may want to add 'clean air for everyone'

[ukrules]

I wonder what his position is on the recently announced tax reform.

[lordgrinz]

7. To abolish the RTP and replace it with a real police force, one with civilian oversight.

[ikke1959]

I am sure he will succeed although it will cost time. His plans are really made to make THailand enter the 21st century

[still kicking]

1 hour ago, ukrules said:

I wonder what his position is on the recently announced tax reform.

Ask him

พิธา ลิ้มเจริญรัตน์ - Pita Limjaroenrat | Facebook

[Bday Prang]

1 hour ago, ikke1959 said:

I am sure he will succeed although it will cost time. His plans are really made to make THailand enter the 21st century

And make it into an exact copy of the miserable country you left, Is that what anybody really wants ?  The closer it gets to the 21st century the less it will resemble the place that attracted us here in the first place. 

[still kicking]

4 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

And make it into an exact copy of the miserable country you left, Is that what anybody really wants ?  The closer it gets to the 21st century the less it will resemble the place that attracted us here in the first place. 

The only thing what attracted you is cheap living and cheap women.

[Bday Prang]

32 minutes ago, still kicking said:

The only thing what attracted you is cheap living and cheap women.

That might have had something to do with it, and your point is?

[still kicking]

1 minute ago, Bday Prang said:

That might have had something to do with it, and your point is?

My point is what I wrote.

[Bday Prang]

3 hours ago, ukrules said:

I wonder what his position is on the recently announced tax reform.

Its a way for the government to raise  a $hit load of money off foreigners , Do you think he would disappeove

[still kicking]

Do I have to repeat myself? Ask him.

พิธา ลิ้มเจริญรัตน์ - Pita Limjaroenrat | Facebook

[Bday Prang]

4 minutes ago, still kicking said:

My point is what I wrote.

I don't see that you have made a point, you have merely reminded me of two of the main reasons I originally came here,  

[Bday Prang]

2 minutes ago, still kicking said:

Do I have to repeat myself? Ask him.

พิธา ลิ้มเจริญรัตน์ - Pita Limjaroenrat | Facebook

no you were not any way requested to repeat yourself,  or indeed to respond at all

I can't imagine why you chose to do so

[still kicking]

3 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

I don't see that you have made a point, you have merely reminded me of two of the main reasons I originally came here,  

Oh yes, all the temples and clean beaches nothing to do with cheap living and girls.

[ikke1959]

5 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

And make it into an exact copy of the miserable country you left, Is that what anybody really wants ?  The closer it gets to the 21st century the less it will resemble the place that attracted us here in the first place. 

Your opinion ok, but explain why all Thais want to have the newest phones, go on holidays,  Thailand, want to go get a space industry and do everything that other countries do too in the 21st century.. The country has to develop for the economy and if they stay living with their laws in the 19th it will be no attractive anymore.. poverty, overcrowded schools with poor education, overcrowded hospitals, no freedom of speech and writings, and corruption for the rich.. Is that what you want? or do you want a country where can be proud of with a good working policeforce to feel safe, where can ventilate your opinion instead of being in jail, a country that has less poverty and better educated people? I am not sure which is better.

The reason why I have left my country is not what you think. It was because I got too old for a job, but my Thai partner did not wanted to leave my country. 

[ukrules]

7 hours ago, still kicking said:

Ask him

พิธา ลิ้มเจริญรัตน์ - Pita Limjaroenrat | Facebook

 

LOL, never. My name would then be on a list of foreign agitators. Keeping your head down in this place is essential.

 

[hotchilli]

10 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

• Democratisation of Thailand, which includes military reform, the scrapping of mandatory military conscription, military reform and the drafting of a new Constitution.
• Quality of life improvements for the Thai people, which encompasses improvements to the public transport system, welfare, healthcare and environment.
• Improvements to conditions in rural areas, which include cuts in farm production costs, increased use of machinery in production processes, farmer’s debt, improvements to water resources and the upgrading of Sor Por Kor land reform certificates into title deeds.
• The complete overhaul of national budgeting, decentralisation of authorities and corruption suppression.
• Development of learning systems, with the introduction of new curricula to ease burden on teachers and to reduce authoritarian systems in schools.
• Support for SMEs, quality tourism, the creative economy and new industries.

This is what Thailand needs... but it got suppressed by the elite who do not want change.

[herfiehandbag]

8 hours ago, still kicking said:

Do I have to repeat myself? Ask him.

พิธา ลิ้มเจริญรัตน์ - Pita Limjaroenrat | Facebook

I doubt whether he has even given it a thought.

 

If you look at the tax codes, thresholds and various allowances and exemptions it will have, at most, a marginal effect upon the vast majority of Western expatriates.

 

It will effect those wealthy Thais playing the "keep their money working overseas game"; and probably lead to a whole new genre of lucrative accountancy, both formal and informal, which will not touch upon expatriates.

 

Mind you, cries of "tax my pension and I will be off" do inject a certain drama into the discussion!

[lordgrinz]

9 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

And make it into an exact copy of the miserable country you left, Is that what anybody really wants ?  The closer it gets to the 21st century the less it will resemble the place that attracted us here in the first place. 

 

This place is a cesspool, nothing attracted me to it, other than loyalty to my family, this is the most miserable place on Earth! I would welcome transitioning into the 21st century, where SAFETY/laws/rules/regulations are expected, embraced, and enforced.

[mfd101]

45 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

 

This place is a cesspool, nothing attracted me to it, other than loyalty to my family, this is the most miserable place on Earth! I would welcome transitioning into the 21st century, where SAFETY/laws/rules/regulations are expected, embraced, and enforced.

In the broad I agree, but calling Thailand "the most miserable place on earth" is a ridiculous exaggeration.

 

I live among the poor & illiterate Khmer peasants of Surin but they are infinitely preferable to (pick a country/place) Yemen, Gaza, Congo, anywhere in the Sahel, most of Russia, most of India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, most of Iran, Bangladesh, Myanmar ....

[lordgrinz]

16 minutes ago, mfd101 said:

In the broad I agree, but calling Thailand "the most miserable place on earth" is a ridiculous exaggeration.

 

I live among the poor & illiterate Khmer peasants of Surin but they are infinitely preferable to (pick a country/place) Yemen, Gaza, Congo, anywhere in the Sahel, most of Russia, most of India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, most of Iran, Bnagladesh, Myanmar ....

 

 

Better? -----> "The most miserable place on Earth that pretends to be some type of wonderful and desirable haven"

 

Thailand fails at the pure basics in a 21st Century country, no clean air, no clean water, travelling on Thai roads is beyond dangerous, you can't even safely cross a street in a crosswalk (or sidewalk in some places), building regulations are scary at best, education is one of the worst in the developing world, culture of caste-worshipping zombies, rampant corruption (embraced by all), a perverted Buddhist society, culture of lawlessness, Etc..Etc...Etc. 

[Bday Prang]

9 hours ago, still kicking said:

Oh yes, all the temples and clean beaches

I did not mention temples, or beaches,  what are you talking about ?  

[Bday Prang]

1 hour ago, herfiehandbag said:

I doubt whether he has even given it a thought.

 

If you look at the tax codes, thresholds and various allowances and exemptions it will have, at most, a marginal effect upon the vast majority of Western expatriates.

 

It will effect those wealthy Thais playing the "keep their money working overseas game"; and probably lead to a whole new genre of lucrative accountancy, both formal and informal, which will not touch upon expatriates.

 

Mind you, cries of "tax my pension and I will be off" do inject a certain drama into the discussion!

            As you say it probably won't end up decimating peoples pensions, and the whole issue has in my opinion been  somewhat over dramatised , this is often the case when people with too much time on their hands ,get a bit worried  and start panic mongering, on forums like this

           However, any accompanying bureaucracy, and associated paperwork requirements, could well become a pain in the ar$e for people, given the various authorities involved, and their  well established practice of deliberately  misinterpreting the rules as they see fit, purely  in order to cause maximum inconvenience , and /or creating opportunities for  squeezing a bit of tea money out of us

             

[Bday Prang]

10 hours ago, still kicking said:

Do I have to repeat myself?

You actually sound like a primary school teacher, 

[sikishrory]

13 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

7. To abolish the RTP and replace it with a real police force, one with civilian oversight.

Maybe they should make it app based like Grab. Apps are the only thing that has been able to have any effect on Thailands entrenched taxi "mafia"

[Srikcir]

13 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

7. To abolish the RTP and replace it with a real police force, one with civilian oversight.

Might fall under #4: decentralization of authorities.

For example the breakup of RTP currently organized soley under the national police commission into civilian autonomous semi-districts, districts, provinces and then  national government. Funding (ie., taxation) would follow accordingly. Decentralization also makes quick military coup control over the police force much more difficult.

[Bday Prang]

2 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

 

This place is a cesspool, nothing attracted me to it, other than loyalty to my family, this is the most miserable place on Earth! I would welcome transitioning into the 21st century, where SAFETY/laws/rules/regulations are expected, embraced, and enforced.

 

1 hour ago, lordgrinz said:

 

 

Better? -----> "The most miserable place on Earth that pretends to be some type of wonderful and desirable haven"

 

Thailand fails at the pure basics in a 21st Century country, no clean air, no clean water, travelling on Thai roads is beyond dangerous, you can't even safely cross a street in a crosswalk (or sidewalk in some places), building regulations are scary at best, education is one of the worst in the developing world, culture of caste-worshipping zombies, rampant corruption (embraced by all), a perverted Buddhist society, culture of lawlessness, Etc..Etc...Etc. 

I admire your loyalty to your family, I would not be prepared to live somewhere I thought so badly of, for anybody,    Obviously your family are more than happy  to live here in spite of all the negative aspects you have listed,  Maybe its you who need to adapt, or even move on, We only get one life and to live it tainted by misery is such a waste

[scorecard]

12 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

And make it into an exact copy of the miserable country you left, Is that what anybody really wants ?  The closer it gets to the 21st century the less it will resemble the place that attracted us here in the first place. 

 The best interests for the Thai population / citizens is the point, not what pleases farangs. 

[scorecard]

11 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

Its a way for the government to raise  a $hit load of money off foreigners , Do you think he would disappeove

 

Reality is that the '$hit load of money off foreigners' is tiny in comparison to the continuous basic / normal tax inflows to the Revenue Department from daily / numerous / various personal / business transactions involving Thai folks.

 

Always amazes me how many farang believe if they didn't exist 90% of essan (and other) families would not survive. Grow up guys.