exfatriate Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 The local pharmacy that used to stock it can't get it any more. It's basically a harmless and beneficial natural product (classified as a food additive in the US) that helps me get a decent night's sleep. Can anyone tell me of a supplier? Online is fine. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingtlger Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Try another local pharmacy. They're like taxis, one might say no go, another will say how much you got? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackGats Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 I think Lazada had some. Much cheaper than in pharmacies. Incidentally, theanine works pretty much like melatonin, only longer. I only use melatonin for jet lag these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauptmannUK Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 I've tried to get some but now illegal in Thailand apparently.. Boots pharmacy still had some in stock but at a ridiculous price (I think it was ฿700 for 10x 3mg tablets). You could order online from overseas (e.g. iHerb) but I guess customs might confiscate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauptmannUK Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 minute ago, JackGats said: I think Lazada had some. Much cheaper than in pharmacies. Do you have a link for Lazada please? I've been unable to find any on there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Waste of money, they don't work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exfatriate Posted January 27 Author Share Posted January 27 15 minutes ago, flyingtlger said: Try another local pharmacy. They're like taxis, one might say no go, another will say how much you got? Believe it or not, I have tried every local pharmacy. How I thought of this myself is a mystery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post exfatriate Posted January 27 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 27 2 minutes ago, ezzra said: Waste of money, they don't work... Brilliant comment. Very helpful. Melatonin works for me, as it does for many. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00dle Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 The only melatonin I have seen in local pharmacies is Thai made and ridiculously expensive -- it comes in a 10-pill bister pack. I use Natrol fast dissolve off Lazada it comes in 3 and 5mg versions. There are many different brands however it is available all over Lazada, though suppliers seem to stock it intermittently and prices can vary. Just search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post n00dle Posted January 27 Popular Post Share Posted January 27 3 minutes ago, ezzra said: Waste of money, they don't work... you do say the silliest thigs, don't you. At least here you are just being ridiculous rather than downright creepy. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exfatriate Posted January 27 Author Share Posted January 27 9 minutes ago, JackGats said: I think Lazada had some. Much cheaper than in pharmacies. Incidentally, theanine works pretty much like melatonin, only longer. I only use melatonin for jet lag these days. For some reason, I tried shopee. It seems to be available on Lazada - thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 iHerb.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notrub Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 exfatriate, Have you tried CBD oil ? I know about melatonin and other similar supplements and use the ones appropriate for me. However, CBD is different. see attached. It is available online ( https://optimanatural.com/). Depending on your location and circumstance you may be able to source the Thai Govt. version at your local hospital. It is called DTAM GANJA OIL It is about 200B for 10units in a small bottle with a dropper as it is measured by the drop for use. For me it is 1 drop to calm (not sleepy) and 4 drops at night to help sleep. Zero THC so no probs driving etc.. I am familiar with meletonin and like it but this is a different thing altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retarius Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 I take it, it was prescribed by a physician but I can but it anywhere. it is called Circadian or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exfatriate Posted January 27 Author Share Posted January 27 46 minutes ago, notrub said: exfatriate, Have you tried CBD oil ? I know about melatonin and other similar supplements and use the ones appropriate for me. However, CBD is different. see attached. It is available online ( https://optimanatural.com/). Depending on your location and circumstance you may be able to source the Thai Govt. version at your local hospital. It is called DTAM GANJA OIL It is about 200B for 10units in a small bottle with a dropper as it is measured by the drop for use. For me it is 1 drop to calm (not sleepy) and 4 drops at night to help sleep. Zero THC so no probs driving etc.. I am familiar with meletonin and like it but this is a different thing altogether. Thank you, yes, I've tried it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exfatriate Posted January 27 Author Share Posted January 27 51 minutes ago, connda said: iHerb.com Thank you - looks good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 hour ago, n00dle said: you do say the silliest thigs, don't you. At least here you are just being ridiculous rather than downright creepy. Well, at least i don't get the confused emojis now as my message is too clear even for dolts to understand... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) 8 hours ago, notrub said: Have you tried CBD oil ? I know about melatonin and other similar supplements and use the ones appropriate for me. However, CBD is different. I tried CBD oil. Here in Thailand? Expensive and did not do diddly-squat for my insomnia. Melatonin helps. I buy it from iHerb. Moderate priced. I use the 5mg tabs. And inexpensive. If you buy $40 worth of product, shipping is free. But you need to keep the total cost under $46 dollars to avoid Customs. Edited January 27 by connda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwikeith Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 16 hours ago, exfatriate said: The local pharmacy that used to stock it can't get it any more. It's basically a harmless and beneficial natural product (classified as a food additive in the US) that helps me get a decent night's sleep. Can anyone tell me of a supplier? Online is fine. Thank you. Puritans Pride, online, they have a few different ones ones called sleep enhance or something like that contains another sleep enhancer along with 10 MG melatonin, that one gets through customs in NZ, they have pure melatonin up to 20mg, you can mix an order with other supplements but your only allowed a certain value per order into Los, not expensive so try your luck, NZ only available on prescription, 2mg tabs, useless, they banned it a few years ago for no reason, I used to give it to my 80 year old mom, 10mg and she slept like a log, it also has many other health benefits, I have used it for years and it really does help with sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5409706/table/nutrients-09-00367-t001/?report=objectonly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 (edited) 21 hours ago, exfatriate said: Brilliant comment. Very helpful. Melatonin works for me, as it does for many. Count yourself lucky - they sure don't work for me. But agree many report it works - but then many report anything works if they have been told so. Overall tests have shown it is better than placebo - but do not believe it is that much better from what is currently known. Also very little is known about any negative effects (which excess amounts of anything often cause). But likely a good choice if alternative is medical sleeping pills. Edited January 28 by lopburi3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notrub Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Thanks connda, really interesting. Have you tried any melatonin products from china? There are lots of listings on ebay for this supplement, available in various strengths. The Iherb site I found is UK and prices in GBP. It is cheaper than Lazada for Doctor's best B12, for example, but the shipping is a killer. (I get it about free shipping with min purchase. Just a comment about smaller orders.) The Thai supplier of CBD oil noted by me in earlier post offers their product in different level of strength. I use the Thai Govt. product that seems only to be available as it is, no stronger versions that I am aware of but it works for me. Apparently CBD can be extracted from hemp so it has virtually 0% TCH. I am not an expert, this is just what I have read. Thanks exfatriate and connda for reminding me about melatonin and similar supplements.🙏🏼 All the Chinese melatonin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 IHerb has many brands and no, it is NOT "banned", and sent through iHerb it will not get confiscated. IHerb does limit the quantity that can be ordered at one time and they do this based on experience with shipments to Thailand. Lazada and Shoppee have it on and off. Currently Lazada has only Life Extension brand liquid melatonin. https://www.lazada.co.th/products/american-life-extension-quick-acting-liquid-melatonin-citrus-vanilla-flavor-59ml-sleep-i5023787814-s21237470407.html?c=&channelLpJumpArgs=&clickTrackInfo=query%3ALiquid%2BMelatonin%2BLife%2BExtension%3Bnid%3A5023787814%3Bsrc%3ALazadaMainSrp%3Brn%3A763a2c01fc45089fbaefcfed2cf33ede%3Bregion%3Ath%3Bsku%3A5023787814_TH%3Bprice%3A736%3Bclient%3Amobile%3Bsupplier_id%3A1000227943%3Bbiz_source%3Ah5_internal%3Bslot%3A0%3Butlog_bucket_id%3A470687%3Basc_category_id%3A12211%3Bitem_id%3A5023787814%3Bsku_id%3A21237470407%3Bshop_id%3A456229&fastshipping=0&freeshipping=0&fs_ab=2&fuse_fs=&lang=th&location=ต่างประเทศ&price=736&priceCompare=skuId%3A21237470407%3Bsource%3Alazada-search-voucher%3Bsn%3A763a2c01fc45089fbaefcfed2cf33ede%3BunionTrace%3A2151e60617064199556271858e30c5%3BoriginPrice%3A73600%3BvoucherPrice%3A73600%3BdisplayPrice%3A73600%3BsourceTag%3A%23auto_collect%231%24auto_collect%24%3BsinglePromotionId%3A-1%3BsingleToolCode%3AmockedSalePrice%3BvoucherPricePlugin%3A1%3BbuyerId%3A0%3ButdId%3AwpA86wG6ZDp2YCAQEE%2BxF%2F6D%2FI%3Btimestamp%3A1706419956174&ratingscore=0&request_id=763a2c01fc45089fbaefcfed2cf33ede&review=&sale=2&search=1&source=search&spm=a2o4m.searchlist.list.0&stock=1&pdpBucketId=5 Line shopping has Puritan Pride (excellent brand) melatonin 10 mg. 500 baht for 120 capsules. The only thing you are likely to find in a pharmacy is Merck's Circadin, expensive and only 1 mg dose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Melatonin seems to be a very gray area product if a brief Google search is to be believed - and this may account for its removal from sales platforms at times. Quote According to “Food Act” B.E. 2522, melatonin is not allowed to be supplemented into food in Thailand and as such cannot be used as an ingredient in health supplements https://food.chemlinked.com/news/food-news/thailand-prohibits-the-use-of-melatonin-in-food-products#:~:text=According to “Food Act” B.E.,claims of helping with sleep. So that would seem to make it subject to medical import restrictions when found out - and suspect there is no set policy for that (as most producers make as a health supplement) - leading to shortage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 6 hours ago, notrub said: Thanks connda, really interesting. Have you tried any melatonin products from china? There are lots of listings on ebay for this supplement, available in various strengths. The Iherb site I found is UK and prices in GBP. It is cheaper than Lazada for Doctor's best B12, for example, but the shipping is a killer. (I get it about free shipping with min purchase. Just a comment about smaller orders.) The Thai supplier of CBD oil noted by me in earlier post offers their product in different level of strength. I use the Thai Govt. product that seems only to be available as it is, no stronger versions that I am aware of but it works for me. Apparently CBD can be extracted from hemp so it has virtually 0% TCH. I am not an expert, this is just what I have read. Thanks exfatriate and connda for reminding me about melatonin and similar supplements.🙏🏼 All the Chinese melatonin Nope. Only iHerb. A lot of the supplements are probably made in China, but imho I think they ship higher quality stuff to the US. I'm a little leery of buying directly for Chinese distributors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 On 1/27/2024 at 11:35 AM, ezzra said: Waste of money, they don't work... ....for you. Like CBD oil, some people swear by it, for me personally it doesn't work and is a waste of money. Melatonin? It is effective for me. Obviously others as well. Everyone's physiology is different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Ok, so I've read most of these posts, all suggesting various potions. So now about a very natural way to induce sleep? No potions and no cost. I originally came across this method in a TED talk by Jim Donovan and now I've found a shortened. but very affective version on YouTube. This really does work and it is so unbelievably simple. Give it a go. Trick your brain into falling sleep - Jim Donovan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgegeorgia Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 (edited) 7 hours ago, Moonlover said: Ok, so I've read most of these posts, all suggesting various potions. So now about a very natural way to induce sleep? No potions and no cost. I originally came across this method in a TED talk by Jim Donovan and now I've found a shortened. but very affective version on YouTube. This really does work and it is so unbelievably simple. Give it a go. Trick your brain into falling sleep - Jim Donovan Trick your brain? 🧠 Great one Moonie, love it , everyone has a brain of course , it's like opinions Edited January 28 by georgegeorgia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstevens Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 8 hours ago, Moonlover said: Ok, so I've read most of these posts, all suggesting various potions. So now about a very natural way to induce sleep? No potions and no cost. The amino acids tryptophan and glycine both help with sleep. If you're looking to go entirely natural, you might consider consuming a diet high in foods with these amino acids. Think red meat and turkey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 14 hours ago, Moonlover said: Ok, so I've read most of these posts, all suggesting various potions. So now about a very natural way to induce sleep? No potions and no cost. I originally came across this method in a TED talk by Jim Donovan and now I've found a shortened. but very affective version on YouTube. This really does work and it is so unbelievably simple. Give it a go. Trick your brain into falling sleep - Jim Donovan 5 hours ago, mstevens said: The amino acids tryptophan and glycine both help with sleep. If you're looking to go entirely natural, you might consider consuming a diet high in foods with these amino acids. Think red meat and turkey. Thanks for the tip. I agree, diet is very important. I'm not looking to go natural, I did so quite a few years ago and a quick scan on the web suggests that I get plenty of these amino acids in my current diet. Cutting back on alcohol is also useful as is a daily dose of meditation. Sleep well. 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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