Popular Post Nordic summer Posted January 30 Popular Post Share Posted January 30 Russian rock bands are so cringy, it's like watching womens soccer. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post brianthainess Posted January 30 Popular Post Share Posted January 30 Don't upset our friends who started a war and invaded a country, and who's leader is a wanted war criminal, to whom we give 3 month visas we need their money Send Them Back. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henkjan2 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, CartagenaWarlock said: Should not the Israeli government at least lodge a diplomatic protest? If not, the reporting is fishy, and don't believe an iota of this information except that they did work illegally in a venue without a license. Maybe they didn't even work there. They may have performed for free ... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 3 minutes ago, Henkjan2 said: Maybe they didn't even work there. They may have performed for free ... ? Free or not, still need a work permit 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted January 30 Popular Post Share Posted January 30 (edited) 13 hours ago, zhounan said: Ops, they probably don't know that the band is very popular between russophones. It's not the best move for Thailand Tourism Marketing Machine They seem to be completely tone deaf when it comes to the antics and ridiculous posturing of administration, compared to their extreme desire for tourism dollars. They seem to work completely independently and it appears that the immigration police and the RTP have no concern whatsoever about Thailand's reputation overseas. And never let it be forgotten that we're looking at 10 years of army participation or domination of the political scene. You can always count on the army to side with a despot regime rather than take the side of democracy. The Thai army is totally anti-democratic. Edited January 30 by spidermike007 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstevens Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 When a foreign national is deported, that means sent back to their own country. An Israeli citizen convicted in Thailand should be deported to Israel, their home country. Sending them to Russia would be extradition. For that to happen, there must be a court order following a court case to hear the request for extradition. In the absence of a court case, I don't see how they could be "deported" to Russia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 15 hours ago, Pouatchee said: thailand the hub of deportation of people to authoritarian countries so they can face prosecution, torture and possibly be disappeared. wasnt it the german president who was congratulating thailand on its democratic improvements? oh... and does thailand accept any refugees? Israeli's complaining about other countries war activities, maybe look at your own country first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, Hakuna Matata said: Probably they don't want to go to Israel either. It is not safe there now. That's daft. Going back to Russia as a critic of Putin means 10 years in prison or being sent to be cannon fodder in Ukraine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 32 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said: Israeli's complaining about other countries war activities, maybe look at your own country first. All of them clearly have Russian backgrounds at least and were playing to Russians here. Their views on the Israel Hamas conflict not relevant here. Belarus is basically a Russian puppet state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabradelmar Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Working without a permit will get anyone deported. And rightly so. But deporting Israeli citizens to Russia... sees doubtful. But deport they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Swift Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 15 hours ago, still kicking said: You know what the answer is do you? Of course he does, but he's not telling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Swift Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Every professional performing musician knows about the necessary work visas and work permits required to perform in foreign countries. This was an incredibly stupid and avoidable mistake on their part. I'm a musician and I knew all about it as of the first time I came here. I knew about it when I performed in Norway and Iceland. If a foreigner is going to entertain here he has to make sure he is at a safe place and under the radar, necessary brown envelopes exchanged, otherwise someone will report them, often a Thai person who feels that they are taking jobs away from Thais. I wonder if these guys were misled by some unscrupulous "sponsor" or agent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 32 minutes ago, Cabradelmar said: Working without a permit will get anyone deported. And rightly so. But deporting Israeli citizens to Russia... sees doubtful. But deport they will. Almost definitely there are some that are dual citizens. If they entered on Russian passports which they clearly did to Thailand the deport country would be Russia by default. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, mstevens said: When a foreign national is deported, that means sent back to their own country. An Israeli citizen convicted in Thailand should be deported to Israel, their home country. Sending them to Russia would be extradition. For that to happen, there must be a court order following a court case to hear the request for extradition. In the absence of a court case, I don't see how they could be "deported" to Russia. Not if they're dual citizens and entered on Russian passports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 To those showing no sympathy if they violated Thai law the punishment to send them back to Russia is massively more severe than a work permit violation would warrant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Dual Russian Israeli citizens would generally choose to enter on their Russian passport because Thailand gives more favorable entry conditions to Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Croc Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 I can't understand why anyone would openly flaunt immigration law, in a country which is not a signatory to the Refugee Convention, by working, or demonstrating against their own oppressive government! Particularly as they are travelling on the oppressor's passport, and the country in which they choose to work is openly friendly with the other. Legally a person can only be deported to their country of citizenship as per their entry passport. A rogue state might ignore that fact. The two non-Russians in the band are luckier. I remember a few years back a large group of Uighurs tried to transit Thailand to get to Europe. They were sent either back to China or to Turkey depending on the PP held. Human rights weren't a consideration. A bomb later exploded in Bangkok attributed to this ethnic group. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinginKata Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 4 hours ago, nobodysfriend said: In this case , a reward would be better ... Just a small fine would be enough as there was no damage done . The each paid a small 3,000 baht fine immediately. They did have permits but the 'agent' made a small error in the paper work. Fine should have been the end if but they were whisked up to Bangkok for processing. All very suspect .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 17 hours ago, NoDisplayName said: Why deport them? Because they voluntarily voided their visas/extensions by working. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 7 hours ago, Iron Tongue said: How would Israeli citizens get deported to Russia? And for a work-visa violation? Could they be dual nationals? Does Russia have an international warrant out for them? If the Israelis had committed offences and were wanted in Russia under Russian arrest warrants they could be sent there. There is no such thing as an "international" arrest warrant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleksey75 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Sanctioned by who?! By Putin?!?! It looks similar like Maxim Galkin was not allowed to Bali, because it "was asked from Moscow"... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 6 hours ago, hotchilli said: So what's happening to the Thai promoters? Why should anything happen to the Thai promoters (was there a promoter?), what offences did they commit? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 5 hours ago, nobodysfriend said: Just a small fine would be enough as there was no damage done . Even though they won't have valid visas now? How could they stay here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 4 hours ago, CartagenaWarlock said: Can they be deported to a country except the country passport they used to enter Thailand? Yes, they could be if the Israelis are wanted under Russian arrest warrants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleksey75 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Who told you that? Putin?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 4 hours ago, Ironmike said: So let me get this straight a Rock band getting deported for speaking the truth No, you didn't get it straight, they risk deportation for invalidating their visas/extensions by working here. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 3 hours ago, Henkjan2 said: They may have performed for free ... ? Irrelevant, they were working and their visas apparently did not allow that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 hours ago, mstevens said: An Israeli citizen convicted in Thailand should be deported to Israel, their home country. ...unless they're wanted in a third country! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novacova Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 6 hours ago, Alainpm said: leave them alone, they did nothing wrong Yes actually they did do something wrong. They were preforming without the appropriate documents of permission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 21 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: Why should anything happen to the Thai promoters (was there a promoter?), what offences did they commit? If a promoter organised their function acting as an agent then they should be responsible for all the correct paperwork etc.. just saying 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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