Biden Warns of a 'Nightmare' Future with Trump, Lists Reasons for Concern

[Danderman123]

Critics Pounce On Trump Over Bonkers Pennsylvania Claim

 

Donald Trump warned National Rifle Association members Friday that Democrats would change the name of Pennsylvania if their party wins at the polls in November.

 

"Or we’re not going to have Pennsylvania. They’ll change the name,” Trump said. “They’re going to change the name of Pennsylvania.”

 

You know Trump is losing it when not even his followers repeat it, because it's not a lie, it's just crazy.

 

But, I must ask: is there anyone crazy enough to say that Trump is right? 

[candide]

3 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Critics Pounce On Trump Over Bonkers Pennsylvania Claim

 

Donald Trump warned National Rifle Association members Friday that Democrats would change the name of Pennsylvania if their party wins at the polls in November.

 

"Or we’re not going to have Pennsylvania. They’ll change the name,” Trump said. “They’re going to change the name of Pennsylvania.”

 

You know Trump is losing it when not even his followers repeat it, because it's not a lie, it's just crazy.

 

But, I must ask: is there anyone crazy enough to say that Trump is right? 

He also said that:

“That’s one even I thought was safe. Abraham Lincoln and George Washington, their names are now in danger,” he said. 😀

 

Trump's problem is that, as he is used that his supporters believe any B.S. he can tell, it encourages him to go further into the B.S. zone without any limit.

[thaibeachlovers]

18 hours ago, Roo Island said:

The media has known about the grifter Trump for a long time. He wasn't attacked. They just reported the facts. Unlike the right leaning leaning sites that gave him a pass.

and now there is a media that gives Biden a pass for all his faults, but unfortunately for his supporters, every time his handlers let him out he exposes just how far past his prime he is, IMO.

[thaibeachlovers]

6 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Critics Pounce On Trump Over Bonkers Pennsylvania Claim

 

Donald Trump warned National Rifle Association members Friday that Democrats would change the name of Pennsylvania if their party wins at the polls in November.

 

"Or we’re not going to have Pennsylvania. They’ll change the name,” Trump said. “They’re going to change the name of Pennsylvania.”

 

You know Trump is losing it when not even his followers repeat it, because it's not a lie, it's just crazy.

 

But, I must ask: is there anyone crazy enough to say that Trump is right? 

I can't say if it's true or not, but IMO if a party is so nuts that it chooses a visibly deficient politician as a presidential candidate there is no telling what insane policies it may want to do.

[impulse]

6 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Critics Pounce On Trump Over Bonkers Pennsylvania Claim

 

Donald Trump warned National Rifle Association members Friday that Democrats would change the name of Pennsylvania if their party wins at the polls in November.

 

"Or we’re not going to have Pennsylvania. They’ll change the name,” Trump said. “They’re going to change the name of Pennsylvania.”

 

You know Trump is losing it when not even his followers repeat it, because it's not a lie, it's just crazy.

 

But, I must ask: is there anyone crazy enough to say that Trump is right? 

 

They already tried to remove William Penn's statue:

 

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/after-backlash-william-penn-statue-will-remain-standing-in-philadelphia-180983573/

 

Last Friday, the National Park Service (NPS) announced plans to remove the statue, as well as a model of Penn’s original home, from Welcome Park, a small paved area located a few blocks from the Liberty Bell and Independence Hall.

 

That decision was met with swift criticism, which eventually reached President Joe Biden and the Pennsylvania governor’s office. This week, the NPS reversed course, declaring it would leave the statue in place.

 

Not hard to imagine they'll remove any references to Penn, including Pennsylvania.  In the bigger picture, Trump is alluding to the recent push to erase US history, removing statues, renaming parks, renaming football teams, and otherwise disrespecting the (admittedly flawed, but period appropriate) characters that built the country into the greatest the world has ever seen.  But is now being torn down, piece by piece.

 

Edit:  Not so strangely, that resonates with voters who have seen huge increases in crime over the past 3 years...

 

 

Edited February 10 by impulse

[Hawaiian]

On 2/5/2024 at 8:00 PM, heybruce said:

What is the cost of this invasion?  More healthy working age people looking for jobs and a better life?  A stronger economy?  More people working and paying taxes to support social security and medicare for the retirees complaining about immigration?

 

The working age population of US born citizens is declining.  We need immigrants.  Ideally Congress would massively reform immigration law and allow many more in legally, and increase funding for the courts to process and expel those that enter the country illegally.  However Congress is more interested in scoring political points than solving problems.

Two days after this post, the CBO in a 10 year budget estimate said the influx of illegal immigrants will force down wages in the U.S.

Not good news for LEGAL American wage earners.  Off course, according to you this will be offset by increased contributions by these illegals to Social Security and Medicare by these illegals.  By the way, many illegals work under the table and pay no payroll taxes.  And if wages go down, then payroll taxes go down.  So, tell me how all this benefits this REAL hardworking Americans?

[Danderman123]

48 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Edit:  Not so strangely, that resonates with voters who have seen huge increases in crime over the past 3 years...

 

You couldn't resist throwing a lie in there at the end.

 

you can save yourself by linking to facts about huge increases in crime.

[Roo Island]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

and now there is a media that gives Biden a pass for all his faults, but unfortunately for his supporters, every time his handlers let him out he exposes just how far past his prime he is, IMO.

BS. Biden's gaffes are all over the media. But the right wing outlets rarely cover Trump's. His supporters live in a MAGA bubble.

[Skipalongcassidy]

Steven F. Hayward, a professor and author, suggested in an op-ed for the New York Post that despite strong economic numbers, President Biden has low ratings because the economy might not be benefiting most Americans.

Edited February 11 by metisdead
Trolling image removed.

[Roo Island]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I can't say if it's true or not, but IMO if a party is so nuts that it chooses a visibly deficient politician as a presidential candidate there is no telling what insane policies it may want to do.

As was proven during Trump's presidency.

[Roo Island]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

They already tried to remove William Penn's statue:

 

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/after-backlash-william-penn-statue-will-remain-standing-in-philadelphia-180983573/

 

Last Friday, the National Park Service (NPS) announced plans to remove the statue, as well as a model of Penn’s original home, from Welcome Park, a small paved area located a few blocks from the Liberty Bell and Independence Hall.

 

That decision was met with swift criticism, which eventually reached President Joe Biden and the Pennsylvania governor’s office. This week, the NPS reversed course, declaring it would leave the statue in place.

 

Not hard to imagine they'll remove any references to Penn, including Pennsylvania.  In the bigger picture, Trump is alluding to the recent push to erase US history, removing statues, renaming parks, renaming football teams, and otherwise disrespecting the (admittedly flawed, but period appropriate) characters that built the country into the greatest the world has ever seen.  But is now being torn down, piece by piece.

 

Edit:  Not so strangely, that resonates with voters who have seen huge increases in crime over the past 3 years...

 

 

Removing statutes and things like that which seem to praise atrocities like slavery and the brutality endured by native Americans is a good thing. We need to learn from the past. Not glorify those who committed horrendous acts.

 

Hopefully there are better things to praise. Like Rosa Parks, etc. Though white America might not agree.

[Skipalongcassidy]

2 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

 Hopefully there are better things to praise. Like Rosa Parks, etc. Though white America might not agree.

Hopefully there are... however Rosa Parks was the exception not the rule and she failed to lead the black community from their insistence on remaining captive to the criminal culture that they exist in today.

[impulse]

9 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

Removing statutes and things like that which seem to praise atrocities like slavery and the brutality endured by native Americans is a good thing. We need to learn from the past. Not glorify those who committed horrendous acts.

 

Hopefully there are better things to praise. Like Rosa Parks, etc. Though white America might not agree.

 

A) Look at the way native tribes treated each other long before the colonies were a spark of someone's imagination. Just about every acre of the US and Canada changed hands long before the colonies, and often in brutal fashion.  They killed each other, often in the most painful way they could devise.   The concept of a peaceful community of noble natives just doesn't comport with historical fact.

 

B) Rosa Parks sat in the front of a bus.  Admirable, sure.  But it's hardly the same as forging a democratic country or writing a constitution.  Unless you're a revisionist.

 

Edited February 11 by impulse

[Chomper Higgot]

53 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

Two days after this post, the CBO in a 10 year budget estimate said the influx of illegal immigrants will force down wages in the U.S.

Not good news for LEGAL American wage earners.  Off course, according to you this will be offset by increased contributions by these illegals to Social Security and Medicare by these illegals.  By the way, many illegals work under the table and pay no payroll taxes.  And if wages go down, then payroll taxes go down.  So, tell me how all this benefits this REAL hardworking Americans?

Oh it’s the immigrants forcing down wages, not businesses.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Steven F. Hayward, a professor and author, suggested in an op-ed for the New York Post that despite strong economic numbers, President Biden has low ratings because the economy might not be benefiting most Americans.

The NYP would hardly say otherwise, doing so might upset their owner.

[Skipalongcassidy]

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The NYP would hardly say otherwise, doing so might upset their owner.

Why would it upset the owner Australian Rupert Murdock who split with Trump and has been supporting the demoncrats as of late???  

[Chomper Higgot]

From Trump’s own mouth:

 

”I would encourage them [Russia] to do whatever the hell they want”

 

Trump supporters cheat loudly.

 

I wonder who else was listening?!

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Why would it upset the owner Australian Rupert Murdock who split with Trump and has been supporting the demoncrats as of late???  

Rupert Murdoch is an American Citizen, do keep up.

[Skipalongcassidy]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Rupert Murdoch is an American Citizen, do keep up.

Rupert Murdoch was born in Australia. He became a U.S. citizen for business reasons.

Doesn't make him an American... 

[Chomper Higgot]

22 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Hopefully there are... however Rosa Parks was the exception not the rule and she failed to lead the black community from their insistence on remaining captive to the criminal culture that they exist in today.

Did Rosa Parks ever claim that to be her mission and if not why do you suggest she failed to do something she never attempted to do?

 

 

Edited February 11 by Chomper Higgot

[scottiejohn]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I can't say if it's true or not, but IMO if a party is so nuts that it chooses a visibly deficient politician as a presidential candidate there is no telling what insane policies it may want to do.

Both parties are doing that very thing at present!

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

and otherwise disrespecting the (admittedly flawed, but period appropriate) characters that built the country into the greatest the world has ever seen.

Firstly many of the statues were erected and parks named, decades after the individuals had died, so hardly period appropriate regulation.

 

Secondly many of the ‘flawed’ attitudes were already being challenged as unacceptable while these individuals were alive.

 

America was built by countless millions of people, much of the work and wealth generation by slaves, so let’s celebrate those people, not their ‘flawed’ ‘owners’.

 

Perhaps the removal of the Native Americans is something more troubling.

 

[Chomper Higgot]

15 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Rupert Murdoch was born in Australia. He became a U.S. citizen for business reasons.

Doesn't make him an American... 

Actually it makes him an American Citizen.

 

Get back to me if I said anything different.

[Skipalongcassidy]

9 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Actually it makes him an American Citizen.

 

Get back to me if I said anything different.

I didn't think that you would understand the difference... he may be an American citizen but he is not an American

[Hawaiian]

53 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Oh it’s the immigrants forcing down wages, not businesses.

 

 

I didn't arrive at this conclusion; the CBO did.  My take is the rule of supply and demand applies.  Quite sure you know how that works.  Or perhaps maybe you don't.

And the costs continue to rise.  NYC mayor asks NY governor for more bucks as his budget faces more shortfalls.  She, in turn, is asking the feds for more money. Denver is cutting public services in order to fund illegal migrant programs.  What's a million here and a million there?

Edited February 11 by Hawaiian
Additional comment.

[Chomper Higgot]

7 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

I didn't arrive at this conclusion; the CBO did.  My take is the rule of supply and demand applies.  Quite sure you know how that works.  Or perhaps maybe you don't.

I’m quite certain the CBO did not say ‘illegals will force down wages’.

 

I suspect they made some remark about suppressing wages in certain low skill sectors, which if Americans are working in ‘illegals’ didn’t put them there.

 

Immigrants are doing the work Americans don’t want to and delivering services to Americans at prices Americans want to pay, not least of all, farm labour and food processing which have a direct impact on costs at the grocery store.

 

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

16 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

I didn't think that you would understand the difference... he may be an American citizen but he is not an American

If you say so.

[Hawaiian]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m quite certain the CBO did not say ‘illegals will force down wages’.

 

I suspect they made some remark about suppressing wages in certain low skill sectors, which if Americans are working in ‘illegals’ didn’t put them there.

 

Immigrants are doing the work Americans don’t want to and delivering services to Americans at prices Americans want to pay, not least of all, farm labour and food processing which have a direct impact on costs at the grocery store.

 

 

 

Just admit it.  You do not understand how supply and demand applies to the labor force.

Suspect what? Please elaborate.

[Chomper Higgot]

4 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

Just admit it.  You do not understand how supply and demand applies to the labor force.

Suspect what? Please elaborate.

U.S. consumers have a demand for cheap goods, services and foods.

 

Resulting in the U.S. economy having a demand for cheap labour.

 

Immigrants are meeting that demand.

 

 

What’s not to understand?

[Roo Island]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

A) Look at the way native tribes treated each other long before the colonies were a spark of someone's imagination. Just about every acre of the US and Canada changed hands long before the colonies, and often in brutal fashion.  They killed each other, often in the most painful way they could devise.   The concept of a peaceful community of noble natives just doesn't comport with historical fact.

 

B) Rosa Parks sat in the front of a bus.  Admirable, sure.  But it's hardly the same as forging a democratic country or writing a constitution.  Unless you're a revisionist.

 

Kinda like Europeans and Americans use to do...and still do. The concept of a peaceful world doesn't comport with historical facts.

 

Research the trail of tears. My family's history.

 

For many minorities, perhaps a revolution is needed. Especially with the "whitening" of America as declared by many on the right. Sad