Social Media Posted February 12, 2024 Posted February 12, 2024 President Biden's handling of the border crisis has been marked by internal turmoil, policy reversals, and growing political pressure. A previously unreported meeting aboard Air Force One in January 2023 highlights the administration's struggle with the complex issue of immigration, characterized by infighting and indecision. The meeting, where Biden vented frustration at his team's inability to provide obscure immigration data, underscores the challenges faced by his administration in addressing the border crisis. Despite White House claims of productivity, insiders reveal a different picture of internal discord and disjointed decision-making. While external factors like global calamities and decades of congressional inaction contribute to the crisis, the Biden administration's response has been marred by bureaucratic inertia and conflicting ideologies. The lack of clear ownership of the issue within the administration has hindered a coordinated response, with some officials avoiding responsibility for the politically contentious matter. Vice President Kamala Harris's role in addressing the root causes of migration from Central America has been criticized as ineffective, leaving a leadership vacuum in the administration's approach to the crisis. Meanwhile, National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan's delegation of border issues to inexperienced personnel reflects a disjointed strategy that has struggled to address the evolving challenges at the border. Internal divisions within the White House and the Democratic Party further complicate efforts to formulate a coherent border policy. Conflicting priorities between punitive measures and humanitarian reforms have led to contradictory actions, exacerbating the crisis and undermining public confidence in the administration's approach. The administration's initial reluctance to acknowledge the severity of the crisis and its limited public engagement on immigration issues have allowed criticism to flourish, contributing to a perception of incompetence and disarray. While President Biden has shown personal engagement on the issue, internal conflicts and missteps continue to hamper efforts to effectively address the border crisis. As the administration grapples with mounting pressure and scrutiny, the path forward remains uncertain. The border crisis represents a significant challenge for the Biden administration, testing its ability to navigate complex policy issues and political realities in a deeply polarized environment. 13.02.24 Source
Popular Post EVENKEEL Posted February 12, 2024 Popular Post Posted February 12, 2024 The Democratic Party should officially change name to Ship of Fools. 2 4 1 1 1 3
Popular Post impulse Posted February 13, 2024 Popular Post Posted February 13, 2024 The truly sad thing is that they don't care about the immense cost, the crime, the devastating effect on inner cities, the fentanyl deaths, the human trafficking, or the 5th columns sneaking in. All they care about is how it will affect the election. Votes and donations and optics are their goal, no matter how much they have to damage the country to get them. And it's not just the Dems. 1 2 3 1 2 1
Skipalongcassidy Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 This is Obama... he hates America 4 4 2
Popular Post Tug Posted February 13, 2024 Popular Post Posted February 13, 2024 Ahh no in our system of government the legislature gets together and hashes out a solution that was done .then citizen trump said no he needs something heck anything to attack Biden with and the spineless republicans whimpered soiled themselves and betrayed what they have been harping about.Its now officially DONALD JHON TRUMPS border crisis hope that helps keep it up Donnie even the most obtuse of your base are starting to get it! 1 1 2
Popular Post JonnyF Posted February 13, 2024 Popular Post Posted February 13, 2024 Perfectly in keeping with the way Biden and his team handles many issues. Why would anyone expect him to handle the border crisis any more effectively than say, the withdrawal from Afghanistan? It's a pattern of dysfunctional management. An inept administration led by a senile old man. 1 1 2 2
Popular Post Tug Posted February 13, 2024 Popular Post Posted February 13, 2024 11 hours ago, JonnyF said: Perfectly in keeping with the way Biden and his team handles many issues. Why would anyone expect him to handle the border crisis any more effectively than say, the withdrawal from Afghanistan? It's a pattern of dysfunctional management. An inept administration led by a senile old man. I donno why don’t you ask your boy trump why he emptied all the prisions before leaving office and here’s another one who would have known that the afghans wanted to be backward starving and illiterate I personally thought some of them would have put up a fight oh well it certainly was a snafu of the highest order exacerbated by the previous administration I will give you that.oh wait trump put his thumb on the border again by getting the cowed shivering cowering republicans to kill the legislation that would deal with it de ja vue ehh? 2 3
Eric Loh Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 Article making mountains out of molehills. Just a functional meeting on important policies having multiple persons giving their inputs and disagreeing with their views of the matter rather than having one person to solve the problem and enervating oppositions.
Popular Post gargamon Posted February 13, 2024 Popular Post Posted February 13, 2024 You should change the title to “Trump's border crisis“. There was a solution close to being signed into law that Trump killed. You kill the solution, you own the problem. 1 3 3
Popular Post JonnyF Posted February 13, 2024 Popular Post Posted February 13, 2024 9 hours ago, Tug said: I donno why don’t you ask your boy trump why he emptied all the prisions before leaving office and here’s another one who would have known that the afghans wanted to be backward starving and illiterate I personally thought some of them would have put up a fight oh well it certainly was a snafu of the highest order exacerbated by the previous administration I will give you that. I'm sure there was a hugely insightful point about Trump in there somewhere but this thread is about Biden. 2 1 2
Popular Post BenStark Posted February 13, 2024 Popular Post Posted February 13, 2024 19 minutes ago, gargamon said: You should change the title to “Trump's border crisis“. There was a solution close to being signed into law that Trump killed. You kill the solution, you own the problem. Yes, and you know why it was killed, for very good reasons. It was because that democrats insisted n have the free weapons to various countries attached to the deal. Please remind us all, how the war in Ukraine and Gaza are related to US borders 1 3 2 1
Popular Post gargamon Posted February 13, 2024 Popular Post Posted February 13, 2024 1 hour ago, BenStark said: Yes, and you know why it was killed, for very good reasons. It was because that democrats insisted n have the free weapons to various countries attached to the deal. Please remind us all, how the war in Ukraine and Gaza are related to US borders Wow. Where do you get this nonsense? It was the Republicans that insisted the bilateral support that existed for support for Ukraine and Israel would not go forward without support for the border package. When the requested package was almost ready Trump had his brown shirts kill it. It's so unfulfilling arguing with these MAGA rubes. They have no memory of what happened last week. It's a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent. 3 3 1 1 2
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted February 13, 2024 Popular Post Posted February 13, 2024 1 hour ago, gargamon said: Wow. Where do you get this nonsense? It was the Republicans that insisted the bilateral support that existed for support for Ukraine and Israel would not go forward without support for the border package. When the requested package was almost ready Trump had his brown shirts kill it. It's so unfulfilling arguing with these MAGA rubes. They have no memory of what happened last week. It's a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent. To qoute Senator Lindsey Graham "You will get a robust Republican vote for Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan if you have real border security to deal with...." Maga rubes have short memory. 4 2 1
BenStark Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 6 minutes ago, gargamon said: Wow. Where do you get this nonsense? It was the Repugnicans that insisted the bilateral support that existed for support for Ukraine and Israel would not go forward without support for the border package. Nope, the republicans wanted only Israel included in the bill. Biden promised to veto the bill if it was Israel only, and insisted on Ukraine to be included 2
gargamon Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 13 minutes ago, BenStark said: Nope, the republicans wanted only Israel included in the bill. Biden promised to veto the bill if it was Israel only, and insisted on Ukraine to be included See the Lindsay Graham quote just above this post of yours. 2 2
impulse Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 1 hour ago, gargamon said: You should change the title to “Trump's border crisis“. There was a solution close to being signed into law that Trump killed. You kill the solution, you own the problem. You mean the solution that codified 5000 illegal entries a day? That's 1.8 million a year. 1 1
BenStark Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 8 hours ago, gargamon said: See the Lindsay Graham quote just above this post of yours. https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1757222757203370296 1
Popular Post gargamon Posted February 13, 2024 Popular Post Posted February 13, 2024 54 minutes ago, BenStark said: https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1757222757203370296 Bad memory huh? The twitter blurb you posted is from after Trump effectively killed the bill. The Graham quote above in question was the Republican position before Trump put his fat finger on the scale. Definitely an unarmed opponent. No memory, no logic, no understanding of the big picture. 2 1
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted February 13, 2024 Popular Post Posted February 13, 2024 40 minutes ago, gargamon said: Bad memory huh? The twitter blurb you posted is from after Trump effectively killed the bill. The Graham quote above in question was the Republican position before Trump put his fat finger on the scale. Definitely an unarmed opponent. No memory, no logic, no understanding of the big picture. Talking about putting his fat finger on the scale, Maga Mike Johnson in his first week as Speaker welcome a fresh Ukraine aid package linked to US border security. When the fat fingers hit the scale, he did a 360 and pronounced the bi-partisan bill dead on arrival even without reading the bill. Trump is the problem for the border crisis. 1 1 2
animalmagic Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 2 hours ago, impulse said: You mean the solution that codified 5000 illegal entries a day? That's 1.8 million a year. It does not codify allowing 5000 illegal entries per day, it sets an obligation to the Govt for it to shut down the border if there are 5,000 per day rolling average over a week or 8500 in one day. Senate Border Security Bill Text Explained—Five Key Takeaways (newsweek.com) 1
charleskerins Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 2 hours ago, Eric Loh said: Talking about putting his fat finger on the scale, Maga Mike Johnson in his first week as Speaker welcome a fresh Ukraine aid package linked to US border security. When the fat fingers hit the scale, he did a 360 and pronounced the bi-partisan bill dead on arrival even without reading the bill. Trump is the problem for the border crisis. Mike ""donnies not calling the shots"Johnson that fake Christian who hasn't done a damn thing for the American people that guy? R's are so concerned about protecting the border they didn't pass the bill to protect the border.
charleskerins Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 2 hours ago, gargamon said: Bad memory huh? The twitter blurb you posted is from after Trump effectively killed the bill. The Graham quote above in question was the Republican position before Trump put his fat finger on the scale. Graham talking about thinking outside the box is pathetic. Definitely an unarmed opponent. No memory, no logic, no understanding of the big picture.
charleskerins Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 2 hours ago, BenStark said: https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1757222757203370296 Lindsay Graham surely you jest. 1 1
charleskerins Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 3 hours ago, gargamon said: Wow. Where do you get this nonsense? It was the Republicans that insisted the bilateral support that existed for support for Ukraine and Israel would not go forward without support for the border package. When the requested package was almost ready Trump had his brown shirts kill it. It's so unfulfilling arguing with these MAGA rubes. They have no memory of what happened last week. It's a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent. I think it is more than that for some of them they reflect the R /Maga mindset . Unfortunately, many Americans follow suit. It's the same thing they did with Kerry ,Obama ,Hillary and Biden.Constantly and consistently lie ,vow to never to do anything to help the Democratic President (remember when Christie thanked Obama for the hurricane help) give no credit or assistance even when the President is responding to attacks.They are anti-Democracy they DGAF about America only staying in power. Complain about the border and then their master says no they say no.they are moral cowards. The American economy has the best recovery of any country since covid -Biden . The only thing they had left to attack was the border now they need something else ; enter Hur in the spirit of swift boating ,Benghazi, emails -let's attack Joe's age and it is working .Yet the other guy is constantly babbling nonsense ,is a rapist ,a seditionist and a traitor. Imagine if he was a Democrat the R's would have a field day. He didn't have evidence to prosecute but that wasn't enough he went on to characterize a man that couldn't remember specific dates from 14 years ago as senile. however his candidate yes he was appointed by drumpf doesn't even know what city he is in or who the Speaker of the House was on 1/6/21 the day he incited an insurrection and did nothing to protect the Capitol .Imagine that we have people supporting a person fro president that orchestrated an attack on US soil and he's still walking around free but We hear more about Biden's age. Americans (many) are bigoted ,misinformed , selfish hypocrites. Sad 1 1
impulse Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 44 minutes ago, animalmagic said: It does not codify allowing 5000 illegal entries per day, it sets an obligation to the Govt for it to shut down the border if there are 5,000 per day rolling average over a week or 8500 in one day. Senate Border Security Bill Text Explained—Five Key Takeaways (newsweek.com) So as long as there's only 4,999 a day, it's all good. You figure the cartels couldn't brain through that one out in a New York minute? 1 1
Popular Post biggles45 Posted February 13, 2024 Popular Post Posted February 13, 2024 8 hours ago, Tug said: Its now officially DONALD JHON TRUMPS border crisis There is no border crisis. The White House, the President, Myorkas and most of the media have said so repeatedly for a long time. The border is secure, read my lips. It was not necessary to introduce new legislation as the crisis was invented by Republicans to distract from Bidens achievements. 1 1 1
Wrwest Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 10 hours ago, impulse said: The truly sad thing is that they don't care about the immense cost, the crime, the devastating effect on inner cities, the fentanyl deaths, the human trafficking, or the 5th columns sneaking in. All they care about is how it will affect the election. Votes and donations and optics are their goal, no matter how much they have to damage the country to get them. And it's not just the Dems. Not just the Democrats ... bit of an understatement. The Republicans insisted that immigration must be addressed and the House passed a bill. That Bill, was known to be extreme and a nonstarter with the US Senate. Bowing to Republican demands, a Senate bipartisan Security Bill was drafted with the support from both parties. Enter "The Donald" publicly stating that the Republicans should pass no such nonpartisan Bill as immigration/border issues is a weak point for the current administration and he wants to use that issue to run for President as the Republican Party Nominee. Most Americans definitely agree with Congressional representatives of both parties that immigration law needs revising. We would agree that both USA political parties have kicked the issue down the road for decades (almost as complicated an issue and fraught with potential unintended consequences as addressing Social Security).
Wrwest Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 9 hours ago, Tug said: Ahh no in our system of government the legislature gets together and hashes out a solution that was done .then citizen trump said no he needs something heck anything to attack Biden with and the spineless republicans whimpered soiled themselves and betrayed what they have been harping about.Its now officially DONALD JHON TRUMPS border crisis hope that helps keep it up Donnie even the most obtuse of your base are starting to get it! We can only hope for a massive turn out for the general election. If an overwhelming number of American citizen voters turnout, Trump and the current Republican Party will be soundly defeated. Oh, the dedicate MAGA types will turn out but their numbers can be overcome by the majority rejecting The Donald. Many of us would rather have seen a different contest but ... here we are currently. I do fear folks being so discouraged that they do not bother to vote. Too many times in history a vocal, dedicated minority has come to authoritarian power in such a case.
Wrwest Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 1 hour ago, biggles45 said: There is no border crisis. The White House, the President, Myorkas and most of the media have said so repeatedly for a long time. The border is secure, read my lips. It was not necessary to introduce new legislation as the crisis was invented by Republicans to distract from Bidens achievements. Cute, but the reality is that most recognize that there is, in fact, a critical immigration issue that has been kicked down the road by both parties for decades. That is why we agree with the Republican Party, which long ago stated there was a need for new law. We looked forward to the addressing of the issue, and were very encouraged that Republicans and Democrats were proposing a bipartisan Bill (supported by membership of 18,000 border patrol officers). And then ... the apparent Republican Party future nominee declared Republican congressional representatives are not to support ... 2
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted February 13, 2024 Popular Post Posted February 13, 2024 Manufactured border crisis by the Republicans and the disfunctional Congress of both parties and now held hostage by a maniputative Trump to advance his political agenda, The fact remains that USA needs immigration especially young migrants to fund the old age Baby Boomers. Overall immigrations are good for the economy as researched by the Brookings Hamilton Project. Unfortunately this become a political football being kicked around and down the road. 1 2
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