Greenland has lost ice 36 times the size of New York. That’s a huge problem for the planet

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3 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

I think so many people are seeing through it now.

 

The extreme leftists will continue to support "their science" of course but it's just a means to an end for them. Removing assets and control from the individual and into the hands of the state. If that has to be under the guise of "saving the planet", so be it as far as they are concerned. The fact that their actions don't match their rhetoric tells you everything you need to know. 

Wow! So unexpected! Offering a conspiracy theory and providing no evidence that such a conspiracy exists. You should publish this in The Journal of Because I Said So.

[JonnyF]

5 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Wow! So unexpected! Offering a conspiracy theory and providing no evidence that such a conspiracy exists. You should publish this in The Journal of Because I Said So.

 

Green taxes don't remove assets from the individual and into the hands of the state? Who knew?

 

Climate based legislation does not remove freedom from the individual and give the state new increased powers? Who knew?

 

You're right. This must just be one massive conspiracy theory! 

 

Of course it's more complicated than that. So to help you along your journey, here's an article to help you understand a bit more.

 

https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/02/07/how-the-green-elites-are-impoverishing-the-world/

 

[EastBayRay]

25 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Wow! So unexpected! Offering a conspiracy theory and providing no evidence that such a conspiracy exists. You should publish this in The Journal of Because I Said So.

another lefty tryin to gaslight everyone

 

from the responses here it don’t seem to be working 

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12 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Green taxes don't remove assets from the individual and into the hands of the state? Who knew?

 

 

How is this different from other taxes? Is all taxation enacted in furtherance of some conspiracy?

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14 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Climate based legislation does not remove freedom from the individual and give the state new increased powers? Who knew?

 

I guess the same to be said restricting pollution of the air and water. Fond of dirty air and dirty water much?

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17 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

You're right. This must just be one massive conspiracy theory! 

 

 

 

Given that the scientific research from thousands of articles supports anthrogenic climate change, how to explain that except in one of two ways:

1) anthropogenic climate change is a real phenomenon

2) the scientific community is conspiring to suppress evidence that disproves existence of anthropogenic climate change

[G_Money]

The earth is just fine.
 

 Been around for over 4 million years.  Ice ages, tidal waves. Earthquakes, volcanic activity, dinosaurs, etc etc.

 

Mankind industrialized era about 200.

 

Greta Thunberg, an “expert “ about 21 years.

 

The earth will be around much longer after we are long gone.

 

Green is nothing but a money $$$$ machine going after the emotions of the ignorant.

[JonnyF]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

I guess the same to be said restricting pollution of the air and water. Fond of dirty air and dirty water much?

 

Not really. Although I do live in Thailand so I'm kind of used to it. I wonder why you do if such things are so important to you. Having said that, I'd rather have dirty air and water than live under a socialist system where the state controls/regulates everything.

 

However, the 2 are not mutually exclusive. It's possible to have clean air and water without the kind of state control that leftists try to push, thinly disguised as "saving the planet".

 

A great start would be the elites setting an example with their own behaviour. Rather than continuing to pollute many times more than the average man and then preaching to them about their behaviour while trying to buy themselves a "free pass" with carbon credits and other such nonsense. Nobody with any sense takes that seriously. 

 

The more I see a "do as I say not as I do" from the likes of Gates, Obama, Swift, The Markles and other left wing virtue signallers the less I am likely to believe their intentions are genuine and do as they say. Having said that, my lifestyle is already effortlessly far less polluting than those charlatans, as someone who loves nature and has a farm with over 2000 trees, grows fish in my lake, enjoys riding motorcycles more than driving cars, grows many types of fruit and vegetables, doesn't enjoy long haul travel etc. I guess I am actually the opposite of those lefty hypocrites without even trying. One of many reasons I have so much disdain for them. 

 

I'd bet good money that my lifestyle is far more "green" than a lot of the preachy doomsday cultists on here as well. Which leads me back nicely to my original point. They aren't really doing it to save the planet, that is a ruse. They are doing it to promote their leftist ideology. As I said before, Global climate alarmism is an excuse for global socialism. 

[thaibeachlovers]

On 2/16/2024 at 8:44 PM, G_Money said:

The earth is just fine.
 

 Been around for over 4 million years.  Ice ages, tidal waves. Earthquakes, volcanic activity, dinosaurs, etc etc.

 

Mankind industrialized era about 200.

 

Greta Thunberg, an “expert “ about 21 years.

 

The earth will be around much longer after we are long gone.

 

Green is nothing but a money $$$$ machine going after the emotions of the ignorant.

Never underestimate the gullibility of the sheeple when looking for ways to make money off them.

[sirineou]

On 2/16/2024 at 2:44 PM, G_Money said:

The earth is just fine.

I am glad to hear it.

How about us? 

 

[G_Money]

14 minutes ago, sirineou said:

I am glad to hear it.

How about us? 

 

We’re f——-!  Thanks to liberal policies.

 

 

[sirineou]

1 hour ago, G_Money said:

We’re f——-!  Thanks to liberal policies.

 

 

You gotta be joking? 

[G_Money]

1 minute ago, sirineou said:

You gotta be joking? 

Not at all!

[retarius]

I'm sure it is all part of the natural immune system of the planet. It has been infected by a disease called humans and is not developing a fever to try to rid itself of this human parasitic pestilence. It's like human's own immunity, when you get an infection, your temperature goes up. Hopefully the Earth's response will harm humanity to the extent that it changes its ways and lived in harmony with the planet. 

[sirineou]

5 minutes ago, G_Money said:

Not at all!

Perhaps you are right, 

If we only had burned more oil and coal .

[retarius]

On 2/16/2024 at 2:44 PM, G_Money said:

The earth is just fine.
 

 Been around for over 4 million years.  Ice ages, tidal waves. Earthquakes, volcanic activity, dinosaurs, etc etc.

 

Mankind industrialized era about 200.

 

Greta Thunberg, an “expert “ about 21 years.

 

The earth will be around much longer after we are long gone.

 

Green is nothing but a money $$$$ machine going after the emotions of the ignorant.

It's actually been around a thousand times longer than 4 million years. You should check your sources. 

[G_Money]

19 minutes ago, sirineou said:

Perhaps you are right, 

If we only had burned more oil and coal .

We will again when Trump is elected.  Drill baby drill!

[G_Money]

18 minutes ago, retarius said:

It's actually been around a thousand times longer than 4 million years. You should check your sources. 

close enough!

[Danderman123]

On 2/15/2024 at 4:14 AM, JonnyF said:

 

Insurance companies using climate alarmism to raise premiums and reduce cover is hardly a shocker.

 

Back in reality, climate related death risk is at an all time low.

 

Source for that chart?

[Danderman123]

On 2/16/2024 at 4:01 AM, placeholder said:

Given that the scientific research from thousands of articles supports anthrogenic climate change, how to explain that except in one of two ways:

1) anthropogenic climate change is a real phenomenon

2) the scientific community is conspiring to suppress evidence that disproves existence of anthropogenic climate change

The Deniers here have no idea what you are talking about.

[Danderman123]

On 2/15/2024 at 5:24 AM, johng said:

not all scientists agree  but if the funding they receive depends upon confirming a certain narrative then likely they will continue to confirm otherwise they are out if funding and a livelihood.

So, you are claiming that thousands of scientists are on the take?

 

Let's turn your opinion around:

 

if a scientist could disprove global warming, how much money would they make from the oil companies?

[G_Money]

48 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

So, you are claiming that thousands of scientists are on the take?

 

Let's turn your opinion around:

 

if a scientist could disprove global warming, how much money would they make from the oil companies?

if a scientist could disprove global warming, how much money would they make from the oil companies?
Zero!

Edited February 18 by G_Money

[Danderman123]

5 minutes ago, G_Money said:

if a scientist could disprove global warming, how much money would they make from the oil companies?
Zero!

You don't know that the oil companies pay scientists to sow doubt about Global Warming?

 

Where do you think your talking points come from?

[Danderman123]

7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Never underestimate the gullibility of the sheeple when looking for ways to make money off them.

 

 

A chart from Dr. Roy Spencer, a global warming skeptic. Is he part of the conspiracy, too?

 

https://www.drroyspencer.com/latest-global-temperatures/

 

Edited February 18 by Danderman123

[Danderman123]

Human produced Carbon Dioxide has increased the amount of atmospheric CO2 from the normal 280 ppm to over 400 ppm, during the last 100 years.

 

Do you disagree?

[JonnyF]

On 2/16/2024 at 10:49 AM, placeholder said:

Another irrelevant deflection about celebrities and such that has nothing at all to do with the science.

I can imagine you at a pool party with Bill.

 

Bill tells you his science. The pool is full of acid, he says. Then he jumps in, playing with his wife and kids and sipping a delicious cocktail.

 

You sit outside, sweating in the sun and trembling with fear- warning everyone to stay out of the pool, quoting Bill's science. Bill meanwhile has the pool all to himself.

 

Bill loves people like you.

[G_Money]

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

You don't know that the oil companies pay scientists to sow doubt about Global Warming?

 

Where do you think your talking points come from?

So now you’re the oil companies accountant?

 

 

[Danderman123]

25 minutes ago, G_Money said:

So now you’re the oil companies accountant?

 

Wow. You don't know that the oil companies fund climate change denial?

 

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2021/09/oil-companies-discourage-climate-action-study-says/

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

I can imagine you at a pool party with Bill.

 

Bill tells you his science. The pool is full of acid, he says. Then he jumps in, playing with his wife and kids and sipping a delicious cocktail.

 

You sit outside, sweating in the sun and trembling with fear- warning everyone to stay out of the pool, quoting Bill's science. Bill meanwhile has the pool all to himself.

 

Bill loves people like you.

I have no idea what you are on about.

 

The science says that human produced carbon dioxide is warming the atmosphere. Tell us when you have data to the contrary.

[KhunLA]

26 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

I have no idea what you are on about.

 

The science says that human produced carbon dioxide is warming the atmosphere. Tell us when you have data to the contrary.

Science doesn't tell us anything.  Humans do, and humans are corrupt IMHO

 

Remember, follow the science:

... safe & effective

... if vaccinated, can't get covid

... if vaccinated, can't spread covid

.... masks work 

 

... coldest winter ever

... hottest temps ever

... oh wait, we only have records for few couple hundred year,

and the planet has been here how long ?

 

... the ice caps will melt ... give them guys a noble, the science was so good

... science says eggs are bad for you

.... science says oops, eggs are good for you

... AZT will protect you from HIV

... margarine is better for you than butter

... oops again, enjoy your butter

... a little bit of alcohol is good for you

... oh wait, any alcohol is bad for you

...  let's not even mention tobacco products, as how F'g stupid 

can anyone to believe that BS

 

... 1973, the world is running out of oil, and apparently everything else

... Lee Harvey Oswald was the only shooter

... there's just not enough bandwidth, as the list is endless

 

Science doesn't lie ........... but humans do, and that's who is telling you ... IMHO