Popular Post Social Media Posted February 22 Popular Post Share Posted February 22 Liz Truss's CPAC Speech: A Tale of Victimhood and Right-Wing Alliance Former British Prime Minister Liz Truss made waves at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in the US, positioning herself as a populist warrior against the perceived "deep state" in the UK. Speaking alongside figures like Nigel Farage and Steve Bannon, Truss painted a picture of herself as a victim of bureaucratic forces thwarting her plans for reform. Truss lamented the power shift from elected officials to bureaucratic entities known as "quangos" in the UK, likening them to America's "deep state." She cited her short-lived tenure as PM, during which she attempted to enact tax cuts and reduce the administrative state, only to face backlash from entrenched interests. The concept of the "deep state" resonated with CPAC's audience, who embraced Truss as a champion of conservative values. Bannon, in his speech, echoed Truss's sentiments, calling for the dismantling of the administrative state to save the country. Truss's appearance at CPAC highlights the growing alliance between right-wing movements across the globe, with figures like Farage and Bannon finding common cause with American conservatives. The conference served as a platform for Truss to promote her book and align herself with the anti-globalist agenda championed by CPAC attendees. However, Truss's narrative of victimhood and resistance to the "deep state" raises questions about her leadership and political strategy. Critics argue that her failed attempts at governance and reliance on conspiracy theories undermine her credibility as a leader. As Truss continues to navigate the political landscape, her alliance with the far-right and embrace of populist rhetoric will likely shape her future trajectory. Whether she can translate her CPAC appearance into political success remains to be seen, but her presence at the conference underscores the global reach of right-wing movements and their influence on conservative politics. 23.02.24 Source 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted February 22 Popular Post Share Posted February 22 Liz Truss tried to pull the Conservatives back to the days of Maggie Thatcher. But these days, all of the major UK parties are vying for the political center, so her party (not some "Deep State") tossed her. 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Georgealbert Posted February 22 Popular Post Share Posted February 22 (edited) One of the worst PMs ever, and would have lasted less than 50 days, if the Queen had not died. She was useless as a minister, all talk and no substance, but was the darling of the blue rinse tory membership. It was her policies and the way she tried to force them through, that almost collapsed the UK economy, and crying that it was everyone else’s fault, but her own,, just comical genius. I am sure a few conspiracy theorists, out of touch clowns on this forum will be along later to tell us how misunderstood she was, in their alternative reality. The facts of her as PM, “IT took Liz Truss’s Government just under a month to see the value of the pound drop to historic lows, the Bank of England being forced to step in and save pension funds from collapse and an enormous hike in the cost of government borrowing. These are the seven days it took for the Tories to nearly crash Britain’s economy.” https://www.thenational.scot/news/23007757.liz-truss-kwasi-kwarteng-wrecked-uk-economy-seven-days/ Edited February 22 by Georgealbert 5 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JonnyF Posted February 23 Popular Post Share Posted February 23 Truss is correct of course. There was no way someone with conservative values and her economic philosophy was going to be allowed to remain in power. And now we have Rishi. 3 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thingamabob Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Truss/Kwase made the basic mistake of presenting their low tax economy plan without a budget explaining how it would work, hence the panic in the money markets and the devaluation of the pound. A great shame, because their ideas were sound. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted February 23 Popular Post Share Posted February 23 26 minutes ago, Thingamabob said: Truss/Kwase made the basic mistake of presenting their low tax economy plan without a budget explaining how it would work, hence the panic in the money markets and the devaluation of the pound. A great shame, because their ideas were sound. Perhaps their ideas were sound, but so was the poll tax, in theory, and that ended Thatcher. I don't know what Truss was like personally, but the impression I got at the time was that she was not a nice or popular person. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Enoon Posted February 23 Popular Post Share Posted February 23 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Thingamabob said: Truss/Kwase made the basic mistake of presenting their low tax economy plan without a budget explaining how it would work, hence the panic in the money markets and the devaluation of the pound. A great shame, because their ideas were sound. And: ".........by putting interest rates and pension pots at risk, Truss had alienated a vast swathe of would-be Tory voters" https://savanta.com/knowledge-centre/view/how-bad-was-liz-truss/ Which adds up to supreme incompetence......not conspiracy by a mythical "Deep State" No better reason than that to get rid of her. DS BS for an audience of rabid Ideologues and "Believers"......welcome to the USA. Edited February 23 by Enoon 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted February 23 Popular Post Share Posted February 23 31 minutes ago, Thingamabob said: Truss/Kwase made the basic mistake of presenting their low tax economy plan without a budget explaining how it would work, hence the panic in the money markets and the devaluation of the pound. A great shame, because their ideas were sound. The markets panicked because they believed her plan was ruinous. 4 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted February 23 Popular Post Share Posted February 23 Anyone in poltics who believes in a "deep state" should be rejected by voters. Apart from flagging them as qanon, it is essentially appealing to a regious style belief in something that isn't there, something akin to the antichrist. 2 1 2 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Will B Good Posted February 23 Popular Post Share Posted February 23 Totally incompetent.......she is grasping at political straws to try and stay relevant to someone......the only someone's stupid enough to entertain her and her ideas are the M&Ms of the GOP. 1 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Enoon Posted February 23 Popular Post Share Posted February 23 (edited) 6 hours ago, JonnyF said: Truss is correct of course. There was no way someone with conservative values and her economic philosophy was going to be allowed to remain in power. And now we have Rishi. Nothing to do with her "values" or "philosophy". She was "an accident waiting to happen". A ******* disaster. Edited February 23 by Enoon 2 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RayC Posted February 23 Popular Post Share Posted February 23 36 minutes ago, Thingamabob said: Truss/Kwase made the basic mistake of presenting their low tax economy plan without a budget explaining how it would work, hence the panic in the money markets and the devaluation of the pound. A great shame, because their ideas were sound. There was no presentation because there was no plan, and there was no plan because - given the economic situation at the time - the ideas were nonsensical. 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Georgealbert Posted February 23 Popular Post Share Posted February 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, Thingamabob said: Truss/Kwase made the basic mistake of presenting their low tax economy plan without a budget explaining how it would work, hence the panic in the money markets and the devaluation of the pound. A great shame, because their ideas were sound. Please provide a link to a professional or credible source, that states her plans were sound. I know conspiracy theorists can never accept facts and opinions from people like the Bank of England, IMF or CBI, and can never accept their opinions are wrong. If her plan was so sound, why did see resign after 50 days, and with a large majority government? Have a good day in your alternative reality, and remember try not to let your arrogance overshadow your ignorance https://www.politico.eu/article/imf-urges-truss-to-think-twice-before-going-forward-with-tax-cutting-plan/ Edited February 23 by Georgealbert 2 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Presto Posted February 23 Popular Post Share Posted February 23 10 hours ago, Social Media said: Liz Truss's CPAC Speech: A Tale of Victimhood and Right-Wing Alliance Former British Prime Minister Liz Truss made waves at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in the US, positioning herself as a populist warrior against the perceived "deep state" in the UK. Speaking alongside figures like Nigel Farage and Steve Bannon, Truss painted a picture of herself as a victim of bureaucratic forces thwarting her plans for reform. Truss lamented the power shift from elected officials to bureaucratic entities known as "quangos" in the UK, likening them to America's "deep state." She cited her short-lived tenure as PM, during which she attempted to enact tax cuts and reduce the administrative state, only to face backlash from entrenched interests. The concept of the "deep state" resonated with CPAC's audience, who embraced Truss as a champion of conservative values. Bannon, in his speech, echoed Truss's sentiments, calling for the dismantling of the administrative state to save the country. Truss's appearance at CPAC highlights the growing alliance between right-wing movements across the globe, with figures like Farage and Bannon finding common cause with American conservatives. The conference served as a platform for Truss to promote her book and align herself with the anti-globalist agenda championed by CPAC attendees. However, Truss's narrative of victimhood and resistance to the "deep state" raises questions about her leadership and political strategy. Critics argue that her failed attempts at governance and reliance on conspiracy theories undermine her credibility as a leader. As Truss continues to navigate the political landscape, her alliance with the far-right and embrace of populist rhetoric will likely shape her future trajectory. Whether she can translate her CPAC appearance into political success remains to be seen, but her presence at the conference underscores the global reach of right-wing movements and their influence on conservative politics. 23.02.24 Source Another extreme right nutcase And CPAC is the right place to go for these nutcases. 3 2 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rudi49jr Posted February 23 Popular Post Share Posted February 23 Jeez, as if they don’t have enough right-wing lunatic conspiracy theory believers in the USA already, now Truss and Farage have to come over to tell them their BS? 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Goat Posted February 23 Popular Post Share Posted February 23 41 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Anyone in poltics who believes in a "deep state" should be rejected by voters. Apart from flagging them as qanon, it is essentially appealing to a regious style belief in something that isn't there, something akin to the antichrist. While she is sitting next to Nigel Firage. What a loon. 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goat Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 42 minutes ago, Will B Good said: Totally incompetent.......she is grasping at political straws to try and stay relevant to someone......the only someone's stupid enough to entertain her and her ideas are the M&Ms of the GOP. Wasnt that the one who got caught taking her pants off with a fella that wasn't her husband? But he stayed with her anyway? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolf Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 7 hours ago, JonnyF said: Truss is correct of course. There was no way someone with conservative values and her economic philosophy was going to be allowed to remain in power. And now we have Rishi. And now in recession. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 25 minutes ago, Dolf said: And now in recession. Try to keep up with the news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolf Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 1 minute ago, youreavinalaff said: Try to keep up with the news. Maybe you should. A mild recovery does not mean recession over yet. Measured based on quarters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PETERTHEEATER Posted February 23 Popular Post Share Posted February 23 But do we (the UK) still import two-thirds of our cheese? That is scandalous! 😀 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proton Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 So we now have hard right to go with far right to demonise people with, how about just right? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 11 minutes ago, Dolf said: Maybe you should. A mild recovery does not mean recession over yet. Measured based on quarters. I've clearly read more up to date articles on the matter than you have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 5 minutes ago, PETERTHEEATER said: But do we (the UK) still import two-thirds of our cheese? That is scandalous! 😀 If they do I'm not surprised. The UK is surrounded by countries who know how to make cheese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masterton Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Nice to see some of the posters on this thread have been let out of their straightjackets long enough to contribute to the thread. The article, in referring to CPAC as "hard right", should already tell you all you need to know about the source (The Guardian... 🙄) and their readership. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolf Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 3 minutes ago, Masterton said: Nice to see some of the posters on this thread have been let out of their straightjackets long enough to contribute to the thread. The article, in referring to CPAC as "hard right", should already tell you all you need to know about the source (The Guardian... 🙄) and their readership. Hard right is just right of centre. The left has moved 5000 miles to the west. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolf Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 2 hours ago, ozimoron said: Anyone in poltics who believes in a "deep state" should be rejected by voters. Apart from flagging them as qanon, it is essentially appealing to a regious style belief in something that isn't there, something akin to the antichrist. https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/is-there-uk-deep-state/ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masterton Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 16 minutes ago, Dolf said: Hard right is just right of centre. The left has moved 5000 miles to the west. Yes indeed... Funny how they never refer to themselves in articles as "far left" or "hard left", ever noticed that? The UK barely has a center anymore, you get to choose between left and far left. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolf Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 3 minutes ago, Masterton said: Yes indeed... Funny how they never refer to themselves in articles as "far left" or "hard left", ever noticed that? The UK barely has a center anymore, you get to choose between left and far left. They hate being called Marxists too which most of them are. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 18 minutes ago, Masterton said: Yes indeed... Funny how they never refer to themselves in articles as "far left" or "hard left", ever noticed that? The UK barely has a center anymore, you get to choose between left and far left. Please share with us who in this thread or any other supports the belief that the state should own the means of production. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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