Maybe Thailand should follow Korea and be more selective of expats/tourists

[webfact]

 

In the wake of our recent discussion on the stringent immigration checks faced by Thai nationals abroad, a torrent of responses has unveiled a disconcerting undertone. It prompts us to ask maybe Thailand should go the path of Korea and be more selective of the visa-running, draft dodging, racist, mysoginistic sexpats we let in. 

 

The previous sentence was only a slight hyperbole. 

 

But here is a nice cross section of people that replied to our story. Thailand’s hospitality should not be mistaken for leniency towards those who disrespect the nation and its people.

 

The derogatory commentary from these expatriates stands in stark contrast to the values of mutual respect and understanding that are integral to Thai society. It reflects not just a personal failing but a systemic issue where certain expatriates exploit Thailand’s welcoming nature while harboring and expressing contempt for its people.

 

Views expressed are the author’s alone and not an official stance of the Thai Enquirer.

 

Full story: THAI ENQUIRER 2024-02-27

 

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[Olmate]

Is this a windup by any chance?? 

[Ben Zioner]

I think the rules should rely on the definition of tourism. Authorities should systematically questions tays longer than the duration of normal annual leave in the country of origin of the so called tourist. 

[fredwiggy]

It might pass the thinking of some, but the way you treat foreigners is the way you might be treated in other countries you may move to. Everything that is done here shows in the treatment of Asians in America for one. The prejudice isn't just here . There are 300,000 farangs here if that estimate is right, and they have relatives and friends back home they talk to. Treating people from other countries well only passes this on. Misogyny is huge in locals here, so that shouldn't even  be mentioned. Racism is everywhere. Sexpats are usually the tourists, but prostitution here is why many come, so who's to blame? People who overstay are only hurting themselves, and that's anywhere. You respect people everywhere, especially where you are living, or it leads to trouble. Just sayin'.

[RandiRona]

10 minutes ago, webfact said:

It prompts us to ask maybe Thailand should go the path of Korea and be more selective of the visa-running, draft dodging, racist, mysoginistic sexpats we let in. 

Ain’t that the question?? May be a developed, non corrupt, democratic nation can create those policies not a nation whose premier visits Airport 3 times a week to count no of tourists AKA billion bahts flying in country or sucking up to CCP and Russia with policies aimed at sucking up to them more. You won’t get what you want but what you deserve!

[EVENKEEL]

Yes, I'm sure the girls on Texas St and or Green St. really care about anything other than the wallet.

[bamnutsak]

From the linked article...

 

Those who engage in illegal activities, exploit the vulnerabilities of Thai society, or display a persistent pattern of racist and disrespectful behavior should be subject to review and potential deportation.

 

 

 

"Disrespectful behavior" seems like an overly broad restriction, and could be used like many "laws" here are, to randomly apply punishments.

 

Honk your horn if you agree.

[Wobblybob]

I always thought that Thailand is the Pound Shop equivalent of tourist destinations anyway.🥴

[steven100]

 

source: yahoo-news.com

[Ben Zioner]

15 minutes ago, bamnutsak said:

From the linked article...

 

Those who engage in illegal activities, exploit the vulnerabilities of Thai society, or display a persistent pattern of racist and disrespectful behavior should be subject to review and potential deportation.

 

 

 

"Disrespectful behavior" seems like an overly broad restriction, and could be used like many "laws" here are, to randomly apply punishments.

 

Honk your horn if you agree.

 

Our friend Wanchai means that any criticism from foreigners is unwelcome and should lead to deportation. He stops short of recommending public flogging.

 

He is a genius as he has found the way to fix "his" country.

[DonniePeverley]

The new leader has bascially just opened up the doors to everyone. 

 

The state of Phuket is awful at the moment. 

 

What happened to quality tourists over quanity ? Never learn. 

[ChrisY1]

Whoever thought up this idea? Be selective? They don't even check incoming at customs...they don't give a damn!

[VBer]

So the idea is to segregate people based on their nationality, right? Maybe author wants to go further and segregate people by skin colour, why not? For those who already arrived and not fit to authors criteria of being quality human - they can wait in their concentration camps.

[H1w4yR1da]

That's hilarious. Korea is one of the most racist and misogynistic places on Earth. LOL!

[smedly]

well that article should improve relations ................... not

 

seems someone in this administration doesn't like foreigners or expats, since the election they have done nothing but #### them off

 

I have no issue screening foreigners in fact I would encourage it, but will they ?

[DonniePeverley]

24 minutes ago, H1w4yR1da said:

That's hilarious. Korea is one of the most racist and misogynistic places on Earth. LOL!

 

 

Japan is worst. They've actually suffered stagnation to their economy for decades, an ageing population, but they refuse to let any immigrants in. 

 

Old British guys  in Pattaya would love to hear that. 

[Pouatchee]

2 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

There are 300,000 farangs here if that estimate is right

 

link please. interesting to know where this estimate stems from. a vwhile ago the numbers were given and i think your estimate is off

[Rampant Rabbit]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

values of mutual respect and understanding that are integral to Thai society

Yes theyre  right, I see that respect daily when driving.

 

2 hours ago, webfact said:

It reflects not just a personal failing but a systemic issue

Yes  I agree, shame on you Thailand..........oh  wait do they mean us?

[John Drake]

The other side of the coin, where apparently Americans adjusted and didn't throw out the newly arrived Thais. https://daily.jstor.org/thai-american-life-in-los-angeles/

[fredwiggy]

24 minutes ago, Pouatchee said:

 

link please. interesting to know where this estimate stems from. a vwhile ago the numbers were given and i think your estimate is off

That was a typo. It was supposed to be 3,000,000 +. I didn't check it first. I need a new keyboard. There are many links to google.

Edited February 27 by fredwiggy

[tgw]

I'm a bit surprised an anonymous website gets such coverage.

Who is behind the "Thai Enquirer" ?

Are there any other articles on the internet written in perfect English by "Wanchai Vatanakool" ?

[John Drake]

This article makes a nice accompanying piece for the news that visa fees are quadrupling for Westerners. Not Russians, of course.

[tomazbodner]

If you go to Penang, Malaysia, and compare the tourists there versus tourists in Thailand, based on their behaviour, I definitely believe Thailand should be more selective on who they let in, and focus on quality rather than quantity. Quality tourists might actually be discouraged from visiting, when the entire <deleted> of the Universe is let in.

[VinnieK]

More selective?

Any more selective and they will be at N. Korea levels. 😱

[John Drake]

18 minutes ago, tomazbodner said:

If you go to Penang, Malaysia, and compare the tourists there versus tourists in Thailand, based on their behaviour, I definitely believe Thailand should be more selective on who they let in, and focus on quality rather than quantity. Quality tourists might actually be discouraged from visiting, when the entire <deleted> of the Universe is let in.

 

What are the differences? I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just interested to know how you think the average tourist to Malaysia acts differently than the average tourist to Thailand. I know some laws, such as those regarding homosexuality, make a difference. But what else do you see?

Edited February 27 by John Drake

[Pouatchee]

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

That was a typo. It was supposed to be 3,000,000 +. I didn't check it first. I need a new keyboard. There are many links to google.

 

those numbers seem more realistic... but i think i remember it being a bit more. lets not haggle over this...the numbers were revealed during covid if memory serves me right...but my memory is getting sh1!t...

cheers

[Jackbenimble]

4 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

The new leader has bascially just opened up the doors to everyone. 

 

The state of Phuket is awful at the moment. 

 

What happened to quality tourists over quanity ? Never learn. 

thats how it should be. Being selective over who is allowed in and who isn't lends itself to discrimination allegations and of course the corruption of those officials who are determining who can and cannot come in. Visas are already issued on the understanding that the local Laws will be followed by the visa holder - that just needs to be enforced. ANY "criminal" activity should result in depeortation and a ban for X years. Other anti-social behaviour should incur warnings, fines and then incarceration. 

The laws are already there, it is the enforcement of them that needs a shake-up (or should that be a shake-down?)  

[spidermike007]

4 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

The new leader has bascially just opened up the doors to everyone. 

 

The state of Phuket is awful at the moment. 

 

What happened to quality tourists over quanity ? Never learn. 

Quantity over quality only works if you're selling one dollar items at a swap meet. It doesn't work for tourism, the state of the tourism industry is diminishing by the day, due to an extraordinary lack of intelligence on the part of the officials.

 

As far as the sexpat talk goes, yes there are some who come here for that, but from what I'm told by people to run foundations that cater to women in the industry the vast majority of customers are Thai or Asian, not westerners. 

[CygnusX1]

5 hours ago, Ben Zioner said:

I think the rules should rely on the definition of tourism. Authorities should systematically questions tays longer than the duration of normal annual leave in the country of origin of the so called tourist. 

Looks like you’re jealous of retired people, who aren’t constrained by the amount of annual leave they’re permitted to take for their leisure travel.

[Regyai]

5 hours ago, Ben Zioner said:

I think the rules should rely on the definition of tourism. Authorities should systematically questions tays longer than the duration of normal annual leave in the country of origin of the so called tourist. 

 

 

What 'definition' is that?

 

At what point is your tourist status negated - is it with your first or second holiday home?

 

'Johnny Wagepacket' and his annual two weeks in the sun under his 'Kiss me Quick' hat - isn't the only 'tourist' type out there