Swiss retiree’s brutal attack on Thai woman sparks outcry in Trang

[sambum]

OK Brits - the heat is off! Swiss are the new kids on the block!

[rudi49jr]

3 minutes ago, Dolf said:

Do you always jump to conclusions?

You just posted this: “Find this hard to believe. More to story. She probably made racist comments or something.”

 

Who’s jumping to conclusions?

[Olmate]

9 minutes ago, Dolf said:

She pushed in or abused him or hit him first. 

I met the real 'Dolf' in Oz many moons ago. He is a very intelligent guy!  

Edited March 6 by Olmate

[giddyup]

1 minute ago, Dolf said:

No I'm not. You are jumping to conclusions and being all dramatic. The story doesn't make sense. Guys don't bash random women in shopping centres for no reason. Something happened which triggered him.

 Give me a reason.

[Dolf]

Just now, rudi49jr said:

You just posted this: “Find this hard to believe. More to story. She probably made racist comments or something.”

 

Who’s jumping to conclusions?

It is called speculation not jumping to conclusions. Is English not your first language?

[giddyup]

Just now, rudi49jr said:

You just posted this: “Find this hard to believe. More to story. She probably made racist comments or something.”

 

Who’s jumping to conclusions?

It's a problem when people don't remember what they've written.

[FruitPudding]

1 minute ago, rudi49jr said:

A plastic water bottle, as far as I can tell. And only after he had beaten her up first. Then she threw the bottle and he came back to beat her up some more. Read the article.

 

I did. 

 

I said he was wrong to hit her the first time.

 

He is wrong, but she acted poorly too.

 

Gotta be fair when evaluating these things

 

[Dolf]

1 minute ago, giddyup said:

 Give me a reason.

A reason for what?

[giddyup]

Just now, Dolf said:

It is called speculation not jumping to conclusions. Is English not your first language?

When you're already in a hole, stop digging.

[Dolf]

Just now, giddyup said:

It's a problem when people don't remember what they've written.

I stand by my comments. Something triggered him. He lost his cool and probably gets deported.

[Dolf]

Just now, giddyup said:

When you're already in a hole, stop digging.

That old lame cliche. No holes on the internet buddy.

[giddyup]

Just now, FruitPudding said:

 

I did. 

 

I said he was wrong to hit her the first time.

 

He is wrong, but she acted poorly too.

 

Gotta be fair when evaluating these things

 

So he beats her up, she retaliates, he comes back to beat he some more, and she acted poorly?

[giddyup]

Just now, Dolf said:

That old lame cliche. No holes on the internet buddy.

Sometimes a cliche fits perfectly.

[Dolf]

Just now, giddyup said:

Sometimes a cliche fits perfectly.

You are a troll.

[Dolf]

2 minutes ago, giddyup said:

So he beats her up, she retaliates, he comes back to beat he some more, and she acted poorly?

Where you there? You tell us.

[Hellfire]

There is a hidden Thai-Swiss war raging at the moment. Not a day passes without some new victims from both sides. 

[BritScot]

6 hours ago, Pouatchee said:

although i often am the devil's advocate, in this case the guy deserves to do time. we complain when migrants commit crimes back home, but we need to remember that we are guests here. this guy beat up a woman... 

 

 

and yes indeed, let's hope that one day justice is blind and all get punished the same according to the law... thaksin comes to mind

Why did you have to spoil your post mentioning Mr T? There is no greater crime than a soldier overthrowing a dully elected government at the end of a gun! Until those are prosecuted one should be very silent! Not to mention the vast fortunes military elite seem to obtain on rather basic salaries!!!

[giddyup]

3 minutes ago, Dolf said:

A reason for what?

Read your posts, or have you forgotten already. "Guys don't bash random women in shopping centres for no reason".

[moe666]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

 

A shocking incident at a shopping mall in the city of Trang on March 5 left a 58 year old Thai woman, Natchanan Kikkham, with severe injuries after a violent altercation with a 60 year old Swiss national, Dieter Matthias Straumann. 25 year old Natchanan’s son, Kritpong Kikkham, is resolute in seeking justice for his mother, who is now hospitalised with a prognosis of at least one month’s recovery.

 

The confrontation began when Natchanan was shopping and accidentally bumped into Straumann, leading to a heated exchange. Straumann, who has been living in Thailand on a retirement visa, reportedly attacked Natchanan without provocation, striking her multiple times and then fleeing the scene. Witnesses report Natchanan threw a water bottle in retaliation, after which Straumann returned, choking and beating her further, even slamming her head against the floor.

 

Straumann was subsequently detained by local police for questioning but remained tight-lipped throughout the interrogation. His recent passport renewal on October 28, 2023, and the upcoming visa expiration on November 14, 2024, indicate his legal status in the country. The police have prepared to charge him with serious assault due to the gravity of Natchanan’s injuries, which include a broken nose and chest trauma, rendering her unable to breathe properly.

Kritpong, who along with relatives has been appealing for fairness at the Trang Hospital, recounted his mother’s harrowing experience, emphasizing the unprovoked nature of the attack. Multiple witnesses within the mall have come forward, ready to testify on Natchanan’s behalf. The police, after a preliminary medical report, are consolidating evidence for Straumann’s potential prosecution.

Straumann’s only response to the police’s announcement of the impending legal action was a terse, “Can not, I will go home. Don’t take photo me.” The relatives of the victim have affirmed their commitment to pursue the case to the fullest extent, underscoring the severity of the assault and the need for justice, reported KhaoSod.

 

Amidst ongoing controversy, Swiss citizen Urs Fehr’s visa status was reviewed by immigration authorities due to his involvement in a Phuket assault case. Concurrently, inquiries were made into his business operations and foundation.

 

by Nattapong Westwood

Photo courtesy of KhaoSod

 

Source: The Thaiger 2024-03-06

 

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Too much swiss cheese puts holes in their head

[Dolf]

6 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

 

I did. 

 

I said he was wrong to hit her the first time.

 

He is wrong, but she acted poorly too.

 

Gotta be fair when evaluating these things

 

I'd say she acted poorly and he lost his cool. Better to just walk away. 

[Dolf]

Just now, giddyup said:

Read your posts, or have you forgotten already. "Guys don't bash random women in shopping centres for no reason".

Do you know guys who bash women at random? Very strange thing to do.

[giddyup]

2 minutes ago, Dolf said:

You are a troll.

 

2 minutes ago, Dolf said:

Where you there? You tell us.

And you're calling me a troll?

[Dolf]

Just now, giddyup said:

 

And you're calling me a troll?

You are.

[IndomitableSpirit]

28 minutes ago, giddyup said:

How did he move her cart, was it aggressively? If so she had every reason to say be polite. People leave their carts in the middle of the aisles all the time, probably world over, so no need to send them to hospital.

This. All it takes is an "excuse me" or "kindly move your cart pls." I don't like people leaving their carts in the aisle too, but I don't move it without acknowledging them first in a respectful manner. Most of the time they smile and apologize, then we move along. There are few who can be really rude and not move as if they own that aisle(noticed it with mostly older Thais), but are they worth my time and energy? Is it worth seeing myself in a police station afterwards? Heck NO! Some people just don't know how to choose their battles or rather choose suffering!

[giddyup]

2 minutes ago, Dolf said:

Do you know guys who bash women at random? Very strange thing to do.

Did you miss the "no reason" part?

[Dolf]

Just now, giddyup said:

Did you miss the "no reason" part?

Your posts don't make any sense.

[NRGF]

6 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Pathetic deflection, you will no doubt be quoting your own “ attempted murder “ next 😀

 

6 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Let's hope the Thai woman who hit and run killed a 73 year old Swiss tourist in Pattaya last night gets similar attention.

The only connection between these two events is Swiss. 

[rudi49jr]

9 minutes ago, Dolf said:

It is called speculation not jumping to conclusions. Is English not your first language?

Judging by many of your posts, pedantic obnoxiousness seems to be your go-to reaction.

And no, English is not my first language, it’s Dutch. Is your Dutch good enough to post on a Dutch language forum?

[Aussie999]

40 minutes ago, giddyup said:

I think we can be sure that her injuries weren't self inflicted.

I don't believe I said they were.... actually, have we seen these "injuries."

Edited March 6 by Aussie999

[transam]

3 minutes ago, Dolf said:

You are.

Be careful BN, you know this forum is your life............😱