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Israel is at War - General discussion (pt3)

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7 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

But, in this video, there is no evidence that this man who is about to be killed is a member of Hamas. I agree it's likely he is, but he could be just some regular citizen who wants to protect his family from the IDF invasion.

 

   He could be an IDF soldier being killed by a Hamas drone ?

He could be a Ashkenazi Jew being killed by a Sephardi Jew for being pro Hindu ?

He can be anything you want him to be 

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6 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

But, in this video, there is no evidence that this man who is about to be killed is a member of Hamas. I agree it's likely he is, but he could be just some regular citizen who wants to protect his family from the IDF invasion.

Sometimes being smart, saves lives. The overwhelming force against any resistance left, is suicide. 

 

Time to let down weapons, and let the world deal with the aftermath. 

 

 

7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Bait ignored.

Question ignored...again.

7 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

He was killed not because he was defending his homeland but for the horrific acts of barbarism in Israel, the Israelis are keen for such attrocities never to recur again. The only way to stop a recurrence of these attrocities is to do what they are doing.

He was in Gaza, in his homeland. He was not committing horrific acts in Israel, and there is no way for the IDF to know if he did, at least if they killed him as described. 

Can't you see that videos like this of someone about to be killed are just like the videos of the people killed and hostages taken on Oct 7?  You thought those were horrible. Why, then, would you think one like this is "hilarious"?

5 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Sometimes being smart, saves lives. The overwhelming force against any resistance left, is suicide. 

 

Time to let down weapons, and let the world deal with the aftermath. 

 

 

Yes, I agree, but that applies to both sides.

2 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Yes, I agree, but that applies to both sides.

We know what Israels plan is, they will install their own muppet government and rebuild the infrastructure, and create new order. Israel is not going to leave once more. 

 

There is no more two state solutions 

1 minute ago, WDSmart said:

He was in Gaza, in his homeland. He was not committing horrific acts in Israel, and there is no way for the IDF to know if he did, at least if they killed him as described. 

Can't you see that videos like this of someone about to be killed are just like the videos of the people killed and hostages taken on Oct 7?  You thought those were horrible. Why, then, would you think one like this is "hilarious"?

 

   There is .

The IDF have photo recognition technology and they may have identified him as being  member of Hamas .

   Israel knows who Hamas are 

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   There is .

The IDF have photo recognition technology and they may have identified him as being  member of Hamas .

   Israel knows who Hamas are 

Yes, I believe the IDF "knows" every male over 11 in Gaza is Hamas and deserves to be shot.

6 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Yes, I believe the IDF "knows" every male over 11 in Gaza is Hamas and deserves to be shot.

 

  Once again, bringing Children into the equation for no reason at all .

Are you suggesting that the person in the video was 11/12 years old ?

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Once again, bringing Children into the equation for no reason at all .

Are you suggesting that the person in the video was 11/12 years old ?

No, I'm suggesting that the IDF will kill almost every male they encounter and then claim they were Hamas. 

40 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Why would you think a video of a man who is about to be killed "hilarious"? Can't you see how horrible that is? 

And though it doesn't make a difference to the deranged nature of the video, this man was presumably armed and set to defend the invasion of his homeland by the IDF. He was not a "terrorist," at least not in this video. And I'll bet you won't even admit to who the real "terrorists" are in this episode. 

"spot the drone spotting them in the rooms, a new meaning to caught on camera, hilarious"

 

That's why

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

"spot the drone spotting them in the rooms, a new meaning to caught on camera, hilarious"

 

That's why

Again, a video of a man who is defending his home from invading IDF and is about to be killed, or a woman who has been taken hostage is not "hilarious." They are despicable.  

5 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Again, a video of a man who is defending his home from invading IDF and is about to be killed, or a woman who has been taken hostage is not "hilarious." They are despicable.  

This was not a woman being taken hostage but it may well have been one of the terrorists that took a woman hostage or murdered one of them. Who are despicable?

9 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

This was not a woman being taken hostage but it may well have been one of the terrorists that took a woman hostage or murdered one of them. Who are despicable?

 

"May well have been"? Is that sufficient for you? I think every able bodied male over 16 may well be a member of Hamas in Gaza. Is that not always the case in war?

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

 

"May well have been"? Is that sufficient for you? I think every able bodied male over 16 may well be a member of Hamas in Gaza. Is that not always the case in war?

What are you blabbing about? They had machine guns and waiting to ambush Israeli soldiers

8 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

This was not a woman being taken hostage but it may well have been one of the terrorists that took a woman hostage or murdered one of them. Who are despicable?

- The Hamas terrorists that took hostages are despicable.
- The IDF soldiers who are invading Gaza and killing Palestinians are despicable.
- The man in the video was not committing terrorist acts, was in what looks like his own home in Gaza, and appeared to be preparing to defend it from the invading IDF. He is not despicable.
- The IDF, who then stormed what appeared to be an apartment complex, firing at everything along the way, and presumably killed the man shown earlier in the video, are despicable.

But my actual charge was that the video was despicable, and so are any who think it is "hilarious." 

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

What are you blabbing about? They had machine guns and waiting to ambush Israeli soldiers

...and waiting to defend their home and homeland against invading Israeli soldiers....

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

What are you blabbing about? They had machine guns and waiting to ambush Israeli soldiers

 

Not what I said. That every male over 16 is armed in Gaza is no surprise. You made a baseless allegation that they "may well have been" accused of war crimes.

35 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

He was in Gaza, in his homeland. He was not committing horrific acts in Israel, and there is no way for the IDF to know if he did, at least if they killed him as described. 

Can't you see that videos like this of someone about to be killed are just like the videos of the people killed and hostages taken on Oct 7?  You thought those were horrible. Why, then, would you think one like this is "hilarious"?

Stop being dramatic and start thinking logically. The terrorist that was killed was part of the group that wishes to remove the Israelis from their land. In war when you are fighting the enemy they are to be eliminated, it is either you or them.

You take the killing of terrorists very seriously but innocent Israelis not so much. 

Who has said that I think this is hilarious, not me, oh that's correct, something else you have made up to spice up your posts, it was not hilarious, it was necessary!

Just now, WDSmart said:

- The Hamas terrorists that took hostages are despicable.
- The IDF soldiers who are invading Gaza and killing Palestinians are despicable.
- The man in the video was not committing terrorist acts, was in what looks like his own home in Gaza, and appeared to be preparing to defend it from the invading IDF. He is not despicable.
- The IDF, who then stormed what appeared to be an apartment complex, firing at everything along the way, and presumably killed the man shown earlier in the video, are despicable.

But my actual charge was that the video was despicable, and so are any who think it is "hilarious." 

Move the goal posts then, who you consider despicable is not my concern. Hamas are terrorists, who are despicable that is a fact.

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

Move the goal posts then, who you consider despicable is not my concern. Hamas are terrorists, who are despicable that is a fact.

 

The entire Gazan administration are Hamas. So that makes them all terrorists? That's no more the case than all IDF soldiers are war criminals.

Just now, ozimoron said:

 

Not what I said. That every male over 16 is armed in Gaza is no surprise. You made a baseless allegation that they "may well have been" accused of war crimes.

What I said is:

4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

What are you blabbing about? They had machine guns and waiting to ambush Israeli soldiers

From the link:

 

"The IDF releases footage captured by a drone showing a Hamas gunman waiting to ambush troops inside a building in the Hamad Town residential complex in Khan Younis."

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

What I said is:

From the link:

 

"The IDF releases footage captured by a drone showing a Hamas gunman waiting to ambush troops inside a building in the Hamad Town residential complex in Khan Younis."

 

One persons hiding in a building is another person's waiting to ambush.

Just now, ozimoron said:

 

The entire Gazan administration are Hamas. So that makes them all terrorists? That's no more the case than all IDF soldiers are war criminals.

Rubbish Hamas military wing are terrorists, official, not arguing with you about that.

Just now, ozimoron said:

 

One persons hiding in a building is another person's waiting to ambush.

Yes I saw the video and read the link, but I do not expect you to believe the IDF at all. That would be too much to ask

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

Rubbish Hamas military wing are terrorists, official, not arguing with you about that.

 

You made an unequivocal claim that all Hamas are terrorists and now walking that back with your qualification of "military wing". Then you complained about moving the goal posts.

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yes I saw the video and read the link, but I do not expect you to believe the IDF at all. That would be too much to ask

 

It would. I believe nothing emanating from either side of the conflict. I accept only independent press accounts and then only with a healthy dose of skepticism.

3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

You made an unequivocal claim that all Hamas are terrorists and now walking that back with your qualification of "military wing". Then you complained about moving the goal posts.

You made an unequivocal claim that all Hamas are terrorists

 

They are, those with guns waiting to ambush IDF are frigging terrorists. The link and video is about Hamas terrorists. Stop the baiting nonsense

Just now, ozimoron said:

 

It would. I believe nothing emanating from either side of the conflict. I accept only independent press accounts and then only with a healthy dose of skepticism.

Yes I see the Al Jazeera links you put up...............

4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

You made an unequivocal claim that all Hamas are terrorists

 

They are, those with guns waiting to ambush IDF are frigging terrorists. The link and video is about Hamas terrorists. Stop the baiting nonsense

 

Terrorists are people who have committed terrorism.

 

The vast bulk of Hamas are defending their country just as the vast bulk of IDF soldiers are doing the same.

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