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[Andycoops]

More shame heaped on the top cops, no wonder everyone else is at it as they are just following the example from above..

 

[Poilu]

2 hours ago, George FmplesdaCosteedback said:

Inactive posts not prosecution seems to follow the "Big Joke" around like a bad smell. What does he know that saves him I wonder? Still, this is another example of Thai justice like 2,500 dead people and a pardon when his party gets into power by default for another "untouchable".

The influence of the multi-dollar billionaire family of his wife is perhaps what is saving him.

[Bangkok Barry]

2 hours ago, ericthai said:

How nice steal from the government and dont lose your job, just sit at a desk all day doing nothing...lol

 

An inactive post removes you from the gravy train, meaning you don't receive any of the payouts from money gathered by Thailand's largest criminal organisation which is distributed each month. There was an article on here sometime last year about how it operates, explained by a very senior officer who clearly knew he was untouchable. Each region is given a target of how much must be found each month, money kindly donated by grateful members of the public to their Christmas fund.

[Grumpy one]

2 hours ago, AhFarangJa said:

Second time around for Big Joke isn't it. Last time he was in the Immigration Police, stepped on some toes, and was moved there. Then He got promoted to his current position? So, what promotion next then?

Future PM may be  

[herfiehandbag]

2 hours ago, ericthai said:

back around 2000ish I read an article in the BKK post, that some toll booth collectors and the manager were skimming money from the toll collections. They all were transferred to inactive position, nobody got fired or asserted for theft....just transferred.

 

How nice steal from the government and dont lose your job, just sit at a desk all day doing nothing...lol

Oh it is a real punishment.

You are removed from the distribution list for the proceeds of whatever scams and skims were being run in the department you control.

[brianthainess]

56 minutes ago, Grumpy one said:

3 hours ago, AhFarangJa said:

Second time around for Big Joke isn't it. Last time he was in the Immigration Police, stepped on some toes, and was moved there. Then He got promoted to his current position? So, what promotion next then?

Future PM may be  

Saint Tony's personal bodyguard maybe? 

[khunjeff]

3 hours ago, ericthai said:

back around 2000ish I read an article in the BKK post, that some toll booth collectors and the manager were skimming money from the toll collections. They all were transferred to inactive position, nobody got fired or asserted for theft....just transferred.

 

How nice steal from the government and dont lose your job, just sit at a desk all day doing nothing...lol

 

My recollection is that it went far beyond skimming - they were stealing something like half the tolls for many months. The government brought in soldiers to man the toll booths for a while, and then the story just disappeared.

[lordgrinz]

If they had both just decided to divvy up the loot equally, they wouldn't be in this mess. 

[Clarkey611]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin today ordered the transfer of two top national police generals, Pol Gen Torsak Sukvimol and Pol Gen Surachate Hakparn, to inactive posts at Government House for two months

The PM's office appears to be the new hub of inactivity.

[NanLaew]

2 hours ago, Andycoops said:

More shame heaped on the top cops, no wonder everyone else is at it as they are just following the example from above..

 

 

Shame is an alien construct in Thai culture.

 

Now, if you want to talk about face...

[NanLaew]

38 minutes ago, Clarkey611 said:

7 hours ago, webfact said:

Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin today ordered the transfer of two top national police generals, Pol Gen Torsak Sukvimol and Pol Gen Surachate Hakparn, to inactive posts at Government House for two months

The PM's office appears to be the new hub of inactivity.

 

The last time Surachate is believed to have stepped on someone's toes, he was transferred to the then PM's inner sanctum, only to pop out about 16 months later, all squeaky clean and heading up all sorts of high-profile crime investigations all over the shop. During that time, nobody cared to guess who he had managed to upset. At the same time, nobody ever heard anything about Sukvimol who ultimately got the top cop job.

 

I recall that during the impasse between the elections and Srettha finally getting the nod, he was being criticised about a public comment he made that suggested that these police appointments are influenced by the government, both national and local. It was along the lines of 'You get the cops that you ask for' rather than the cops that you need. This apparently contradicts the laws and constitution and whatever other bit of Thailand's political hokum that whimsically suggests that the police leaders are promoted and assigned on their individual merits.

[webfact]

Police chiefs suspended over alleged gambling links
by Petch Petpailin

 

Photo via ThaiRath

 

The Prime Minister of Thailand suspended two top police chiefs of the Royal Thai Police (RTP) from their positions due to alleged internal conflict and connections to online gambling.

 

PM Srettha Thavisin, yesterday, March 20, transferred the RTP Commissioner Torsak “Big Tor” Sukvimol and Deputy Commissioner Surachate “Big Joke” Hakparn, to temporary roles at the Prime Minister’s Office for 60 days. Police General Kitrat Phanphet has been assigned as acting RTP commissioner.

 

The transfers followed allegations linking Big Joke to an online gambling operation. The investigation into this matter has been ongoing since last year, with no clear resolution. Big Joke consistently maintained his innocence and attributed the accusations against him to internal conflicts within the RTP.

The PM underscored that both police chiefs are presumed innocent until the investigation concludes. Nevertheless, he deemed it necessary to reassign them from their current roles to guarantee a fair and unbiased investigation.

PM Srettha urged both Big Tor and Big Joke to abstain from granting media interviews to prevent further complications. Additionally, he instructed their subordinates not to take sides or divulge any information regarding the case to the public.

 

No internal conflict

 

Big Tor and Big Joke yesterday jointly held a press conference to proclaim their innocence and affirm that there was no internal conflict within the organisation.

 

Big Tor reported that the investigation into the internal conflict within the RTP and the online gambling links had been transferred to the Office of the National Anti-Corruption Commission (ONACC). The two high-ranking Thai cops have been transferred out of their current positions to ensure that the investigation is fair and of the highest standard.

 

Big Tor insisted that there was no internal conflict within the RTP, although the issue ignited a public debate due to misunderstandings and confusion propagated on social media. He further stated his intention to retire within the next six months and expressed his desire for each remaining day in his position to be positive.

 

Big Tor insisted that he’s had no conflicts with any officers since he served as RTP commissioner. He emphasised his commitment to making the RTP a supportive organisation for all officers.

 

“We live together like brothers and sisters. We work together to build a home for each officer, not just a house.”

 

Big Tor expressed to Big Joke his genuine sincerity, asserting himself as an elder brother figure with unwavering sincerity towards him. He maintained that nobody could match his level of sincerity towards Big Joke.

 

According to ThaiRath, Big Joke appeared visibly stressed and subdued, allowing Big Tor to field the majority of the reporters’ inquiries.

 

Source: The Thaiger 2024-03-21

 

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[Caldera]

The Thai police farce making the headlines again.

[JoePai]

Smoke and Fire ?

[AhFarangJa]

5 hours ago, hotchilli said:

Not immigration again..... please

I will second that Sir. I think if that happens it may be time to leave.....

[Purdey]

It seems that no one believes that Big Joke is never found guilty because he is innocent. 

[namatjira]

Big joke really cleaned up chiangmai immigration and 90 day reports , he made it much better for retired farangs living there, no longer having to get there at 6.00 in the morning  and still wait all day...

He is capable of very good things 

[Bday Prang]

41 minutes ago, Purdey said:

It seems that no one believes that Big Joke is never found guilty because he is innocent. 

innocent of what though ?

[Mavideol]

as in any banana republic, charges swiped under the rug.... all is good, next ...

[Bday Prang]

               They both seem delighted at their  transfer to an inactive post at the Pm's office, Perhaps they see it as one step closer to the position they really covet, Maybe they think they are both genuinely in with a chance of that,  and have decided to bury the hatchet, so to speak, on the basis that whoever eventually  gets there will look after the other? 

                  Either way I don't think a temporary transfer to an a inactive post for people in their position will have any ot the  negative repercussions that apply to more junior ranking officers. 

[Bday Prang]

2 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Thailand's political hokum that whimsically suggests that the police leaders are promoted and assigned on their individual merits.

I very much doubt anybody in Thailand , particularly government employees, are ever promoted or assigned positions based on personal merit

[Cabradelmar]

3 of a kind. Jokers all 🃏🃏🃏

[Bday Prang]

4 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

You are removed from the distribution list for the proceeds of whatever scams and skims were being run in the department you control.

That won't be the case for either of these two,  However I can't help wondering what particular "inactivity" they will be tasked  with to pass the time over the next 60 days

[Bday Prang]

3 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

If they had both just decided to divvy up the loot equally, they wouldn't be in this mess. 

looking at the smiles on their faces I'm guessing that is exactly what they have decided to do. a fine foundation for their new "bro-mance"

[Bday Prang]

4 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

 

An inactive post removes you from the gravy train, meaning you don't receive any of the payouts from money gathered by Thailand's largest criminal organisation which is distributed each month. There was an article on here sometime last year about how it operates, explained by a very senior officer who clearly knew he was untouchable. Each region is given a target of how much must be found each month, money kindly donated by grateful members of the public to their Christmas fund.

 I think I remember that article or have read something very similar, but there is no way these two have jumped from that gravy  train, more likely just had their tickets upgraded to first or business class 

Edited March 21 by Bday Prang

[Bday Prang]

5 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Another defamer hits the net. "Likely".

 

You know nothing about the situation other than what you read in English translation so you hide your ignorance with invective.

 

 

So are you implying that we should all remain silent , and not dare to offer an opinion,   That would make for a really exciting and interesting forum wouldn't it

[Mr Meeseeks]

7 hours ago, BestB said:

It’s so nice , get charged and punishment is to get sent to work elsewhere, in the mean time everyone else on same charges goes to jail and gets fined into millions if not hundreds of millions 

If they actually arrested and charged all the corrupt officials, Thai society would collapse.

 

it’s their culture. 

[Mr Meeseeks]

32 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

               They both seem delighted at their  transfer to an inactive post at the Pm's office, Perhaps they see it as one step closer to the position they really covet, Maybe they think they are both genuinely in with a chance of that,  and have decided to bury the hatchet, so to speak, on the basis that whoever eventually  gets there will look after the other? 

                  Either way I don't think a temporary transfer to an a inactive post for people in their position will have any ot the  negative repercussions that apply to more junior ranking officers. 

These photos are from just before, where the two of them called a press conference to ‘bury the hatchet’.

 

Must have angered the PM or puppetmaster as they were both moved to inactive posts hours later. 🤣

Edited March 21 by Mr Meeseeks

[Mr Meeseeks]

27 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

I very much doubt anybody in Thailand , particularly government employees, are ever promoted or assigned positions based on personal merit

That is exactly why incompetence is rife here.

 

Incompetency and useless behaviour is tolerated because of status and fear.
 

Thailand is not a meritocracy and never will be. 

[sambum]

11 hours ago, flyingtlger said:

Look at them, smiling and laughing, having a good old time.

They'll just wait and let things blow over.....

 

 

".....to work at the Prime Minister’s Office"

 

"..... to inactive posts at Government House"

 

So are we to assume that they will be sitting reading papers, playing on their phones etc, or will they actually be working e.g. shuffling paperwork?