RFK Jr. argues that Biden is a bigger threat to democracy than Trump

[Tug]

26 minutes ago, bendejo said:

This RFK Jr guy, maybe his mama boozed it up while she was pregnant with him  . . .

 

Good observation!he does kinda bark like a seal a little bit lol as he becomes more of a threat to trump I suspect that voice will be one of the first targets 

[impulse]

3 hours ago, charleskerins said:

What a disaster       America's employers delivered another outpouring of jobs in March, adding a sizzling 303,000 workers to their payrolls

3 questions (okay, 4):

 

1) How many of those are full time jobs and how many are part time?

2) How many of those are gub'ment jobs?

3) How many are they going to adjust downward, like they did pretty much every month in 2023?

 

And finally:  How many of those jobs went to American citizens and how many to foreign citizens?

 

[bendejo]

42 minutes ago, Tug said:

Good observation!he does kinda bark like a seal a little bit lol as he becomes more of a threat to trump I suspect that voice will be one of the first targets 

 

Some moneybags guy who is a big DT donor is also a RFKJr donor.  It's easy to see where this is going.

 

[charleskerins]

3 hours ago, impulse said:

3 questions (okay, 4):

 

1) How many of those are full time jobs and how many are part time?

2) How many of those are gub'ment jobs?

3) How many are they going to adjust downward, like they did pretty much every month in 2023?

 

And finally:  How many of those jobs went to American citizens and how many to foreign citizens?

 

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.htm                "Trump is the only president in the last 80 years to have net job losses during his presidency"

[impulse]

3 minutes ago, charleskerins said:

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.htm                "Trump is the only president in the last 80 years to have net job losses during his presidency"

 

And the majority of Biden's "new jobs" have been people coming back to work from Covid shutdowns, and part timers picking up more work because they can't make it on one job under Bidenomics.

 

 

[charleskerins]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

And the majority of Biden's "new jobs" have been people coming back to work from Covid shutdowns, and part timers picking up more work because they can't make it on one job under Bidenomics.

 

 

False Biden's economy passed pre pandemic numbers by1.2 million in December 2022  !!!!!  Damn .  Now give it up .Drumpf is a flop  Biden is kicking ass economically.

[candide]

5 hours ago, impulse said:

3 questions (okay, 4):

 

1) How many of those are full time jobs and how many are part time?

2) How many of those are gub'ment jobs?

3) How many are they going to adjust downward, like they did pretty much every month in 2023?

 

And finally:  How many of those jobs went to American citizens and how many to foreign citizens?

 

Good questions! What's your reply to these questions?

[candide]

8 hours ago, charleskerins said:

What a disaster       America's employers delivered another outpouring of jobs in March, adding a sizzling 303,000 workers to their payrolls

More details about this total dusaster:

Job growth zoomed in March as payrolls jumped by 303,000 and unemployment dropped to 3.8%.

The unemployment rate edged lower to 3.8%, as expected, even though the labor force participation rate moved higher to 62.7%, a gain of 0.2 

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/05/job-growth-totaled-303000-in-march-better-than-expected-and-unemployment-was-3point8percent.html

 

The unemployment rate has remained below 4% for 26 straight months, the longest such stretch since the late 1960s. The U.S. economy is outshining its global peers even though the Fed has raised rates by 525 basis points since March 2022 to dampen inflation. 

https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/us-job-growth-beats-expectations-march-wages-increase-steadily-2024-04-05/

[charleskerins]

13 minutes ago, candide said:

More details about this total dusaster:

Job growth zoomed in March as payrolls jumped by 303,000 and unemployment dropped to 3.8%.

The unemployment rate edged lower to 3.8%, as expected, even though the labor force participation rate moved higher to 62.7%, a gain of 0.2 

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/05/job-growth-totaled-303000-in-march-better-than-expected-and-unemployment-was-3point8percent.html

 

The unemployment rate has remained below 4% for 26 straight months, the longest such stretch since the late 1960s. The U.S. economy is outshining its global peers even though the Fed has raised rates by 525 basis points since March 2022 to dampen inflation. 

https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/us-job-growth-beats-expectations-march-wages-increase-steadily-2024-04-05/

but i like the orange whiner  

[impulse]

37 minutes ago, charleskerins said:

False Biden's economy passed pre pandemic numbers by1.2 million in December 2022  !!!!!  Damn .  Now give it up .Drumpf is a flop  Biden is kicking ass economically.

 

You need to get a new calculator.

 

Pre-pandemic, employment was 158.7 million.  When Biden was inaugurated, it was 149.8M.  Today, it's 161.5M. 

 

8.9M Covid jobs came back (158.7 - 149.8), out of the 11.7M jobs that Biden claims to have added (161.5 - 149.8).  Meaning Biden only added 2.8M new jobs (161.5 - 158.7).  The vast majority of them (76%) are just Covid jobs coming back.  And that was my claim.

 

To make it worse, that's all jobs, part and full time.  It's worse for full time jobs.  And devastating for American born workers, who have gained no jobs since Mid 2022.

 

Not to mention, he's added somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 million "newcomer" workers.  But only 2.8M new jobs.  Yet, they claim unemployment is down?  That must be the new math.

 

 

All jobs:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CE16OV

 

For full time jobs:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS12500000

 

Native Born workers:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNU02073413

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[mogandave]

46 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

You need to get a new calculator.

 

Pre-pandemic, employment was 158.7 million.  When Biden was inaugurated, it was 149.8M.  Today, it's 161.5M. 

 

8.9M Covid jobs came back (158.7 - 149.8), out of the 11.7M jobs that Biden claims to have added (161.5 - 149.8).  Meaning Biden only added 2.8M new jobs (161.5 - 158.7).  The vast majority of them (76%) are just Covid jobs coming back.  And that was my claim.

 

To make it worse, that's all jobs, part and full time.  It's worse for full time jobs.  And devastating for American born workers, who have gained no jobs since Mid 2022.

 

Not to mention, he's added somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 million "newcomer" workers.  But only 2.8M new jobs.  Yet, they claim unemployment is down?  That must be the new math.

 

 

All jobs:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CE16OV

 

For full time jobs:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS12500000

 

Native Born workers:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNU02073413

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And 40% of Biden’s “new” jobs are from growing government. 

 

Meanwhile, tax revenues are down…

[mogandave]

9 hours ago, charleskerins said:

Joe Biden	2021 – present	$1.84 trillion	6.33%
Donald Trump	2017 – 2021	$8.2 trillion	40.43%

Trump was in office for five years?

 

 

[morrobay]

What else is new Bob   https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/11-ways-biden-handler-hell-bent-destroying-america

[candide]

28 minutes ago, mogandave said:

Trump was in office for five years?

 

 

Budgets are counted by fiscal years, not calendar years.

[candide]

32 minutes ago, mogandave said:

And 40% of Biden’s “new” jobs are from growing government. 

 

Meanwhile, tax revenues are down…

Source?

[charleskerins]

29 minutes ago, morrobay said:

What else is new Bob   https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/11-ways-biden-handler-hell-bent-destroying-america

victor David Jackass

[charleskerins]

47 minutes ago, mogandave said:

Trump was in office for five years?

 

 

Are you unaware of the day the new President takes office in the US?

[charleskerins]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

You need to get a new calculator.

 

Pre-pandemic, employment was 158.7 million.  When Biden was inaugurated, it was 149.8M.  Today, it's 161.5M. 

 

8.9M Covid jobs came back (158.7 - 149.8), out of the 11.7M jobs that Biden claims to have added (161.5 - 149.8).  Meaning Biden only added 2.8M new jobs (161.5 - 158.7).  The vast majority of them (76%) are just Covid jobs coming back.  And that was my claim.

 

To make it worse, that's all jobs, part and full time.  It's worse for full time jobs.  And devastating for American born workers, who have gained no jobs since Mid 2022.

 

Not to mention, he's added somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 million "newcomer" workers.  But only 2.8M new jobs.  Yet, they claim unemployment is down?  That must be the new math.

 

 

All jobs:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CE16OV

 

For full time jobs:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS12500000

 

Native Born workers:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNU02073413

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Negative  Alex   and the question is    How many jobs did donnie add?       

[charleskerins]

31 minutes ago, candide said:

Source?

21% and 900,00 jobs are unfilled.

[charleskerins]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

You need to get a new calculator.

 

Pre-pandemic, employment was 158.7 million.  When Biden was inaugurated, it was 149.8M.  Today, it's 161.5M. 

 

8.9M Covid jobs came back (158.7 - 149.8), out of the 11.7M jobs that Biden claims to have added (161.5 - 149.8).  Meaning Biden only added 2.8M new jobs (161.5 - 158.7).  The vast majority of them (76%) are just Covid jobs coming back.  And that was my claim.

 

To make it worse, that's all jobs, part and full time.  It's worse for full time jobs.  And devastating for American born workers, who have gained no jobs since Mid 2022.

 

Not to mention, he's added somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 million "newcomer" workers.  But only 2.8M new jobs.  Yet, they claim unemployment is down?  That must be the new math.

 

 

All jobs:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CE16OV

 

For full time jobs:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS12500000

 

Native Born workers:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNU02073413

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Biden 's job numbers have surpassed pre pandemic levels. He surpassed that number in June of 2022'  How were donnies job numbers?  

[morrobay]

37 minutes ago, charleskerins said:

victor David Jackass

Now that sounds suspiciously like-If you don't like the message then attack the messenger. But I would be surprised if you read it.

[stevenl]

On 4/4/2024 at 2:21 PM, uncletiger said:

 

You misunderstand Trump's purpose, as well as MAGA supporters.  He is being elected to do one job and one job only: bring down the deep state and all its corrupt structures. Nobody cares about his personality, what he says, or if he has offended people in the past. This is why I laugh at people who cry about "he's a criminal!" And what's your point? Why does that matter now? Like the French revolution when they cut off the heads of the monarchy, he is only there to be a wrecking ball, destroying everything corrupt so that we can start the healing and rebuilding process in 2028.  Trump has promised to return America to the American people, and that is the sole reason he is popular.  If he doesn't do this...if he doesn't bring down the entire diseased temple this time...everyone will turn on him, and quickly.

 

What you call a "free and open democracy" hasn't existed for generations. We are controlled by a mafia like structure known by many different names. We don't even have honest voting, and haven't had it for a long time. America is at war, and Trump is coming back to end the war. But you can rest assured it is a short term project. 2028 is going to be all about healing and rebuilding again.

So the corrupt one has to exterminate corruption.

[impulse]

41 minutes ago, charleskerins said:

Biden 's job numbers have surpassed pre pandemic levels. He surpassed that number in June of 2022'  How were donnies job numbers?  

 

I don't claim to know.

 

Here's a thought.   I linked to all the data you need, to brain that one out yourself.   Why don't you let us know what you calculate?

 

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CE16OV

 

Edit:  Just eyeballing the slopes, if you compare Biden's job growth after mid 2022 (when you say he surpassed pre-Covid), his growth numbers look pretty anemic compared to the Trump numbers before Covid struck.  But be a peach and calculate the numbers for us...

 

[candide]

3 hours ago, charleskerins said:

Are you unaware of the day the new President takes office in the US?

It's more likely due to fiscal years. A budget voted a given year only starts in October of this year until September the next year. So until September 2017 it was Obama's budget and until September 2021 it was Trump's budget. It is also used to calculate deficits and debts  as they are caused by the budget voted.

[candide]

2 hours ago, impulse said:

 

I don't claim to know.

 

Here's a thought.   I linked to all the data you need, to brain that one out yourself.   Why don't you let us know what you calculate?

 

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CE16OV

 

Edit:  Just eyeballing the slopes, if you compare Biden's job growth after mid 2022 (when you say he surpassed pre-Covid), his growth numbers look pretty anemic compared to the Trump numbers before Covid struck.  But be a peach and calculate the numbers for us...

 

Nice try! 😉

Was the Fed implementing a high interest rate policy under Trump in order to cool down the employment growth?

[Walker88]

On 4/5/2024 at 6:44 AM, uncletiger said:

 

Keep in mind he won 2016 despite the election fraud that they engineered to give Hillary the win, and his support INCREASED in 2020. That never happens for sitting presidents. He only lost due to massive and overwhelming election fraud which was so bad it couldn't be hidden. Nearly everyone who voted for him in 2020 will vote for him again, and every single day more and more people continue to wake up and come over to the MAGA side. Trump support is a one way valve. Once you understand the mission he is on, and that everything that is happening is part of that, you realize that there is no other choice but Trump.

 

By all means, spread my statements to your friends. What I said previously is absolutely true. I'll even say it again so there is no mistake. Trump is working with a large faction of the military to take back the country from the deep state globalists.  He is finishing the work of JFK. The more who realize this, the sooner this war will end. In fact, I'll go one further for you and your friends. The Biden regime is also not the constitutionally elected government of the USA. It has the same legal standing as America did when it invaded Iraq and Afghanistan. It is legally a belligerent occupying power, installed through cyber crime and election fraud, and the USA is in a state of war. If you have never heard this before, then you need to stop listening to the propaganda of the legacy media, get out of the insulated echo chamber you have created for yourself, and try to seriously understand why so many people support president Trump. Trying to ignore everything I just said as a conspiracy theory ultimately will be to your detriment.

 

It may be painful for you to embrace this reality, but ultimately we are all victims of what the globalist cabal has done to us. It's been going on for several generations. This victory over them is going to be for everyone. Not just MAGA, and not just America. The whole planet. As things get even more bizarre and painful due to this psyop we're living through over the coming months...when you're finally ready to see this truth...just know that nobody will ridicule you for having been fooled. We have all been where you're at now and everyone wakes up at their own time.

 

TL;DR: We are at war with the globalist cabal/deep state. Trump is the wrecking ball. 2028 is when we heal.

Oh goodness!  The Deep State!

 

Moonbat Alert!

 

If you had ever been successful in life or ever been anywhere near the so-called 'halls of power', you would know that anyone who uses the term Deep State is so naive and gullible as to make others' teeth hurt.

 

I could toss out all the usual lines about 'check your meds' or 'go get help', but someone so deep into such banal nonsense is incapable of being helped. It's malignant and fatal.

 

So go ahead...knock yourself silly with your childish Deep State drivel. Think that you are "aware" because you "have done research". If it makes you feel special, go for it. Go stand on a street corner and scream to passersby.

 

That being said, as a card carrying member of the Deep State, I'm catching the bathyscaph Trieste and heading down for some shopping at Titanic Duty Free. I've got to get there before George Soros beats me and scoffs up all the '86 Biondi-Santi Brunello di Montalcino.

[candide]

5 hours ago, impulse said:

 

You need to get a new calculator.

 

Pre-pandemic, employment was 158.7 million.  When Biden was inaugurated, it was 149.8M.  Today, it's 161.5M. 

 

8.9M Covid jobs came back (158.7 - 149.8), out of the 11.7M jobs that Biden claims to have added (161.5 - 149.8).  Meaning Biden only added 2.8M new jobs (161.5 - 158.7).  The vast majority of them (76%) are just Covid jobs coming back.  And that was my claim.

 

To make it worse, that's all jobs, part and full time.  It's worse for full time jobs.  And devastating for American born workers, who have gained no jobs since Mid 2022.

 

Not to mention, he's added somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 million "newcomer" workers.  But only 2.8M new jobs.  Yet, they claim unemployment is down?  That must be the new math.

 

 

All jobs:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CE16OV

 

For full time jobs:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS12500000

 

Native Born workers:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNU02073413

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

General comment:

- nothing's perfect as Biden has no magic power. However, the unemployment statistics (and others such as GDP) are showing that the popular MGA claim that Biden's economy is a disaster is ridiculous.

- the post-Covid context is different from the pre-Covid context. The post-Covid economic performance of the U.S is much better than in other comparable economies.

[Yellowtail]

2 hours ago, candide said:

Nice try! 😉

Was the Fed implementing a high interest rate policy under Trump in order to cool down the employment growth?

Nice try! 😉

 

Interest rates were raised in an attempt to curb inflation, not to slow employment growth. 

[Yellowtail]

2 hours ago, candide said:

General comment:

- nothing's perfect as Biden has no magic power. However, the unemployment statistics (and others such as GDP) are showing that the popular MGA claim that Biden's economy is a disaster is ridiculous.

- the post-Covid context is different from the pre-Covid context. The post-Covid economic performance of the U.S is much better than in other comparable economies.

No one doubts the rich are getting richer, and Democrats have become the party of the rich. 

 

 

[Yellowtail]

7 hours ago, candide said:

Source?

U.S. Treasury Fiscal Data