Major police operation underway reports of 'multiple stabbings' at shopping centre Sydney

[gearbox]

20 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It is indeed shocking.

 

It seems Australia, like the UK, too is failing to deal with the crisis of mental health problems on society.

 

 

I'm in Sydney right now, easy to go mental when you see the grocery prices and the rents.

 

Tent cities and rising crime seems the likely future.

[stevenl]

17 hours ago, stevenl said:

Doesn't matter. Proton has concluded it was an Islamic terrorist, whatever is said by authorities or witnesses or what is shown on cctv will not change his opinion.

 

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Any updates?

 

None will be given.

[Brickleberry]

19 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

Thoughts are with our Australian brothers and sisters today. At least 5 killed while out shopping in a Sydney mall. Apparently a 9 month old baby was one of the stab victims. 

 

Looking at the video clips it seems highly likely the attacker was another follower of that peaceful religion. 

 

At least five killed and several in critical condition after Westfield shopping centre attack in Sydney

https://news.sky.com/story/major-police-operation-under-way-after-reports-of-multiple-stabbings-at-shopping-centre-in-sydney-13113923

 

This wasn't a terror attack, it was a white guy with mental health issues.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-68810428

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A knife-wielding man who killed six people in a Sydney shopping centre before being shot dead has been identified by Australian police.

Joel Cauchi, 40, sent the crowded Westfield Bondi Junction complex into panic on Saturday when he began stabbing people with a long blade.

Five women and a man died. Several others, including a baby, were injured.

Authorities said the attack was most likely "related to the mental health" of Mr Cauchi.

Asked whether she believes he was targeting women, New South Wales Police Commissioner Karen Webb told reporters on Sunday it would be "an obvious line of inquiry".

But she added she would not describe the stabbings as an "act of terror", reiterating that police believed there was "no ideological motivation".

 

[GroveHillWanderer]

17 hours ago, proton said:

When the cops claims it's not terror related you can be pretty sure it is!

I wonder if you could flesh that out a little bit for us? Is this all cops - every police force everywhere in the entire world - or only certain cops in certain countries and at certain times?

 

And in either case, please could you provide us with some reliable evidence showing cases where cops have lied in issuing a finding that an attack was not terror related when it actually was.

[youreavinalaff]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Doesn't look like anything but a white Australian to me.

 

Most likely of Maltese ancestry. 

 

Not many Muslims in Malta.😁😁😁

[georgegeorgia]

2 hours ago, gearbox said:

I'm in Sydney right now, easy to go mental when you see the grocery prices and the rents.

 

Tent cities and rising crime seems the likely future.

Shop at Aldi 

You will find some things cheaper than Thailand 

Vitamins , sunscreen, kilos of apples oranges, hot water kettles ,  T shirts etc 

 

[billd766]

20 hours ago, simon43 said:

Let's wait for further details before we make assumptions.  Witnesses should be able to say whether he was shouting 'Allah' etc.

Facts and details spoil the stirring up of the hatred that some posters have.

[transam]

2 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Facts and details spoil the stirring up of the hatred that some posters have.

Well, I hate the knife man, whatever his reasons...........😝

[billd766]

18 hours ago, proton said:

 

When the cops claims it's not terror related you can be pretty sure it is!

Thus speaks the greatest authority on world wide laws in any country in the world.

[billd766]

17 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

Why do some people always quote bad stuff from the Bible in these situations?

How often do we see women being stoned, honour killings, terrorist attacks etc. in the 21st century carried out in the name of Christianity? 

 

This is about a present danger, not one from hundreds or thousands of years ago. 

 

Probably for the same reasons that people quote the Koran and Mohammed from 1,400 years ago.

[cdnvic]

Removed a post that violated community standards, and those quoting it.

[still kicking]

1 hour ago, georgegeorgia said:

Shop at Aldi 

You will find some things cheaper than Thailand 

Vitamins , sunscreen, kilos of apples oranges, hot water kettles ,  T shirts etc 

 

I do all my shopping at Aldis I just spend 90 AUD per fortnight including wine 

[AreYouGerman]

6 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

There’s a few that have well and truly blown their cover in this thread.

 

Never had a cover.

 

Not seen anything yet to change my opinion, except maybe for that case, however I kinda still have doubts about the identity.

[still kicking]

1 minute ago, AreYouGerman said:

 

Yeah, could be true, so it wasn't a terrorist attack now?

No, it wasn't, look at the details under medical care since 2012 

Westfield Bondi Junction stabbing: Joel Cauchi family speaks | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site

[AreYouGerman]

14 minutes ago, still kicking said:

No, it wasn't, look at the details under medical care since 2012 

Westfield Bondi Junction stabbing: Joel Cauchi family speaks | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site

 

Okay, yeah. It would be unusual for a White guy to do a terrorist attack.

[metisdead]

Some troll posts and replies have been removed.

[youreavinalaff]

2 hours ago, AreYouGerman said:

 

Okay, yeah. It would be unusual for a White guy to do a terrorist attack.

IRA? Timothy McVeigh?

[AreYouGerman]

Just now, youreavinalaff said:

IRA? Timothy McVeigh? 

 

What? Who? I live in a different time where most terrorist attacks are now done by Muslims and terrorist attacks by Whites are unusual.

 

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/unusual

[stevenl]

6 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

IRA? Timothy McVeigh?

More recent anders breivik. 

[youreavinalaff]

4 minutes ago, AreYouGerman said:

 

What? Who? I live in a different time where most terrorist attacks are now done by Muslims and terrorist attacks by Whites are unusual.

 

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/unusual

Brandon Russell? The Base? Anders Behring Breivik? John Timothy Earnest? Patrick Crusius?

[AreYouGerman]

3 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

Brandon Russell? The Base? Anders Behring Breivik? John Timothy Earnest? Patrick Crusius?

 

So, was it a terrorist attack now or not? I am getting confusing messages.

[AreYouGerman]

4 minutes ago, stevenl said:

More recent anders breivik. 

 

13 years ago.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks

[still kicking]

1 minute ago, AreYouGerman said:

 

So, was it a terrorist attack now or not? I am getting confusing messages.

No, read the news.

[stevenl]

11 minutes ago, AreYouGerman said:

 

What? Who? I live in a different time where most terrorist attacks are now done by Muslims and terrorist attacks by Whites are unusual.

 

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/unusual

 

1 minute ago, AreYouGerman said:

 

13 years ago.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks

So? Recent terrorist attack.

And no, there are no confusing messages here.

[AreYouGerman]

So it wasn't a terrorist attack. Okay, yeah. It would be unusual for a White guy to do a terrorist attack.

[youreavinalaff]

2 minutes ago, AreYouGerman said:

So it wasn't a terrorist attack. Okay, yeah. It would be unusual for a White guy to do a terrorist attack.

I agree. You are confused.

[youreavinalaff]

9 minutes ago, AreYouGerman said:

 

So, was it a terrorist attack now or not? I am getting confusing messages.

The names I quoted; Brandon Russell, The Base,  Anders Behring Breivik, John Timothy Earnest, Patrick Crusius, committed terrorist attacks, yes.

 

They are all white.

[candide]

5 minutes ago, AreYouGerman said:

So it wasn't a terrorist attack. Okay, yeah. It would be unusual for a White guy to do a terrorist attack.

It depends in which country. In the U.S. it's mainly by white guys. In Europe it's mainly by Islamic terrorists (with some notable exceptions).

[AreYouGerman]

1 minute ago, youreavinalaff said:

The names I quoted; Brandon Russell, The Base,  Anders Behring Breivik, John Timothy Earnest, Patrick Crusius, committed terrorist attacks, yes.

 

They are all white.

 

For me the case is closed as it stands. White guys usually don't commit any terrorism and especially not outside their country in a Muslim country. Some random name don't change that (some of the people you named got prison terms for hanging up posters, not committing murder).

 

"According to Fondapol, a French think tank, between 1979 and May 2021, at least 48,035 Islamist terrorist attacks took place worldwide, causing the deaths of at least 210,138 people."

[youreavinalaff]

34 minutes ago, AreYouGerman said:

 

For me the case is closed as it stands. White guys usually don't commit any terrorism and especially not outside their country in a Muslim country. Some random name don't change that (some of the people you named got prison terms for hanging up posters, not committing murder).

 

"According to Fondapol, a French think tank, between 1979 and May 2021, at least 48,035 Islamist terrorist attacks took place worldwide, causing the deaths of at least 210,138 people."

According to official data from Europol, the European Union’s law enforcement agency, in the 4 years between 2011 and 2014 there were 746 terrorist attacks in Europe.  Of these, only eight were religiously-inspired, which is 1% of the total. But even the perpetrators of these acts were not all Muslim.

 

In 2013, there were 152 terrorist attacks in Europe.  Only two of them were “religiously motivated”, while 84 were predicated on ethno-nationalist or separatist beliefs.

 

Between 2006 and 2010, member states recorded 2,131 terrorist attacks in the EU and only eight were “Islamist”. 

That means Muslim terrorists were responsible for a meagre 0.3 percent of EU terrorism during those years. 

 

The Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism (START) documented 2,400 terrorist attacks in the United States from 1970 to 2012.  Of these,

approximately 60 were carried out by Muslims.  In other words, approximately 2.5% of all terrorist attacks on US soil between 1970 and 2012 were carried out by Muslims.  This is a tiny proportion of all attacks.

 

An FBI study looking at terrorism committed on US soil between 1980 and 2005 found that 94 percent of the terror attacks were committed by non-Muslims.

 

https://columbanird.org/muslims-are-not-terrorists-and-neither-are-most-terrorists-muslims/