BREAKING NEWS! Iran potentially triggers World War 3

[Drumbuie]

22 hours ago, freeworld said:

erm....

There are separate totals for the UK and England - which rather undermines the reliability of this chart. 

[Neeranam]

1 hour ago, koolkarl said:

The hamas terrorists wear civilian clothes, like cowards, and hide among civilians in schools, hospitals, etc. Their leaders, who stole billions from the palestinians hide in Qatar like cowards.  Hamas gives themselves up, release all hostages and return the stolen billions and all stops.  The Palestinians themselves know about the tunnels as they took years to build.  They stand there and take the punishment instead of turning Hamas in.  You have no clue.

Have you any idea the power of the Israeli(US) army?

It would be suicide to say 'hey Israel, 2pm at the border, you against us'. When dealing with bullies, drastic measures are required. This conflict did not start on Oct 7!

 

The ongoing aggression by Israel against Gaza has created an imbalanced power dynamic where the Palestinian people are severely disadvantaged. IDF's  superiority, backed by advanced weaponry(from US) leaves Gazans unable to match the Israeli army's might. This power asymmetry, coupled with discrimination, apartheid-like policies, and rampant human rights violations such as arbitrary detentions without trial, creates a sense of desperation among the oppressed. When faced with relentless oppression and limited means to defend themselves, some individuals tragically resort to acts of terrorism as a desperate attempt to resist occupation and draw attention to their plight. While I don't justiify terrorism , I understanding the root causes, including the unequal power dynamics and systematic injustices. 

Edited April 15 by Neeranam

[coolcarer]

39 minutes ago, sirineou said:

This is a retaliation to Israel bombing Iran's Sovereign territory and causing the death of it's citizens.  Israel was already bombing Hamas. 

It was a retaliation to Israel carrying out a precision strike on IRGC designated terrorists in the Iranian consulate in Syria who are financing and helping Hamas. Let’s get facts right. Had Oct 7th not happened, then there would have been no strike. The trigger was Hamas terrorists.

[ThaiFelix]

10 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Have you any idea the power of the Israeli(US) army?

It would be suicide to say 'hey Israel, 2pm at the border, you against us'. When dealing with bullies, drastic measures are required. This conflict did not start on Oct 7!

 

The ongoing aggression by Israel against Gaza has created an imbalanced power dynamic where the Palestinian people are severely disadvantaged. IDF's  superiority, backed by advanced weaponry(from US) leaves Gazans unable to match the Israeli army's might. This power asymmetry, coupled with discrimination, apartheid-like policies, and rampant human rights violations such as arbitrary detentions without trial, creates a sense of desperation among the oppressed. When faced with relentless oppression and limited means to defend themselves, some individuals tragically resort to acts of terrorism as a desperate attempt to resist occupation and draw attention to their plight. While I don't justiify terrorism , I understanding the root causes, including the unequal power dynamics and systematic injustices. 

Thank you!  An excellent summary of the conflict.  

[Trippy]

4 hours ago, AreYouGerman said:

 

He's not only an Israel supporter, he's a Jew himself. And I won't go into his sexual preferences as it doesn't play a role here.

 

'I come before you as a Jew,' Anthony Blinken

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-767997

 

Isn't the US a sovereign country?

Are you german?

[Nick Carter icp]

43 minutes ago, Paul Catton said:

With open arms like the West Bank?

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/02/shocking-spike-in-use-of-unlawful-lethal-force-by-israeli-forces-against-palestinians-in-the-occupied-west-bank/

 

    Israel wasn't in Gaza though and they are only there now because Hamas kept attacking Israel

[ThaiFelix]

57 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 Do you really believe that Israelis will attack all Palestinians on sight

Yes especially if the Palestinians are unarmed, carrying white flags, and well out of reach, so history has shown us.

[Neeranam]

14 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

You chose either a very unfortunate, or else an entirely appropriate, screen name.

 

One might even replace "German" with the name of the governing Party in the 1930s and 1940s.

Another one weaponizing antisemitism. 

There is absolutely nothing wrong with pointing out that Biden's administration has more Jews that any other religion. 

 

Can we talk about the lack of Muslims in the Senate/Congress?

 

Of course the US falsify the number of Muslims in the country. Inaccurate representation of Muslim communities in the Census has significant implications for political representation.

Edited April 15 by Neeranam

[Bkk Brian]

14 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Have you any idea the power of the Israeli(US) army?

It would be suicide to say 'hey Israel, 2pm at the border, you against us'. When dealing with bullies, drastic measures are required. This conflict did not start on Oct 7!

 

The ongoing aggression by Israel against Gaza has created an imbalanced power dynamic where the Palestinian people are severely disadvantaged. IDF's  superiority, backed by advanced weaponry(from US) leaves Gazans unable to match the Israeli army's might. This power asymmetry, coupled with discrimination, apartheid-like policies, and rampant human rights violations such as arbitrary detentions without trial, creates a sense of desperation among the oppressed. When faced with relentless oppression and limited means to defend themselves, some individuals tragically resort to acts of terrorism as a desperate attempt to resist occupation and draw attention to their plight. While I don't justiify terrorism , I understanding the root causes, including the unequal power dynamics and systematic injustices. 

Read the topic you are on, your last paragraph also seems to be written by a different author than your first, why would that be? AI?

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Another one weaponizing antisemitism. 

Calling out antisemitism is not weaponizing it, not that you would know.

[Nick Carter icp]

56 minutes ago, sirineou said:

This is a retaliation to Israel bombing Iran's Sovereign territory and causing the death of it's citizens.  Israel was already bombing Hamas. 

 

   Could you expand a bit more on the Iranian citizens killed in the consulate strike ?

Were they just ordinary citizens visiting the consulate to get their passports renewed or where they there for some other reason ?

     Like organising terror attacks ? 

Were they ordinary members of the public or legitimate enemy targets ?

[Nick Carter icp]

7 minutes ago, ThaiFelix said:

Yes especially if the Palestinians are unarmed, carrying white flags, and well out of reach, so history has shown us.

 

   Could you post a link to that story ?

[Walker88]

2 hours ago, Hummin said:

 

 

Iran wanted to nationalize their own oil reserves, therefor executed a coup helped with cia to put a dictator in place. a brutal dictator who was protected by Usa until the revolution happenend.

 

 

Interesting how time creates its own reality. When I had access, I did a lot of looking into the Mossadegh coup, and tried to parse it against the narrative that is in print. Major differences.

 

Kermit Roosevelt had a CT (career trainee), a secretary, a $500,000 budget, and little more. He used the funds to buy printing presses and paper, and provided that to anti-Mossadegh forces in Iran. I find it hard to believe that his efforts alone, in a nation of (then) 18 million, toppled the regime. Even if it wanted to do so, it's very difficult for the agency to take any meaningful credit for the coup.

 

Of much greater import seems to be what the Brits, and British Oil did. Their efforts were much more large scale and involved significantly more money.

 

Ultimately the Iranian anti-Mossadegh forces prevailed, and the brutality of the Shah and Savak years ultimately resulted in the mullahs and a theocracy. Of course there is no denying that the US, under a host of Presidents from Eisenhower to Carter, supported the Shah.

[norfolkandchance]

12 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Read the topic you are on, your last paragraph also seems to be written by a different author than your first, why would that be? AI?

But it does have a 'Flowing Style' to it.

[Nick Carter icp]

13 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Another one weaponizing antisemitism. 

There is absolutely nothing wrong with pointing out that Biden's administration has more Jews that any other religion. 

 

 

 

   Do you have a link to back that claim up ?

I did an online web search and there were 8 Catholics and five Jews among his administration , but that was from a few years ago .

   Could you provide a link to confirm your claim ?

[Nick Carter icp]

25 minutes ago, ThaiFelix said:

Thank you!  An excellent summary of the conflict.  

 

   You should thank the person who wrote it (or the A.I machine)

[Paul Catton]

13 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Could you post a link to that story ?

Israeli commander indicates IDF were behind Gaza white flag shooting | ITV News

[Zab1e]

On 4/14/2024 at 9:29 AM, george said:

 

 

This topic was discussed here:

 

[Zab1e]

not accurate. Israel attacked the Iranian embassy on April 1st, 2024 and Iran responded. 
 

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/04/02/middleeast/iran-response-israel-damascus-consulate-attack-intl-hnk/index.html

[scorecard]

On 4/14/2024 at 9:46 AM, Tropicalevo said:

Why?

The last one dropped in anger stopped a war.

100% record so far.

That doesn't mean it 'works' every time, and in every circumstance.

[transam]

1 minute ago, Zab1e said:

not accurate. Israel attacked the Iranian embassy on April 1st, 2024 and Iran responded. 
 

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/04/02/middleeast/iran-response-israel-damascus-consulate-attack-intl-hnk/index.html

Iranian Consulate in Syria.........Not an Embassy or in Iran....😉

[Nick Carter icp]

14 minutes ago, Paul Catton said:

Israeli commander indicates IDF were behind Gaza white flag shooting | ITV News

 

   That was during a battle and Hamas often carry White flags pretending to surrender and then suicide bomb when they get close to Israelis and blow everyone up .

   But we were talking about  non war situations 

[Danderman123]

16 hours ago, Keep Right said:

I think old sleepy Joe is responsible for Iran having the go-dads for this strike because old Joe sure does not have any. This strike would have never happened if a true patriot such as Trump were President of the United States. They will bring old sleepy Joe out of the basement for a few get tough speeches and then bring him back down for a nap, Israel is on their own and certainly capable of making glass out of Iran.

*If* Trump had a functional brain, which apparently he doesn't, this is what he would do:

 

Call for Iran to cease attacking Israel.

 

If they stopped, he could claim credit for years.

 

If they didn't, he could blame Biden.

 

But Trump has nothing to say that is intelligible, because he is clueless about this conflict. And he is paralyzed by fear over his trial.

Edited April 15 by Danderman123

[rabas]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

Have you any idea the power of the Israeli(US) army?

It would be suicide to say 'hey Israel, 2pm at the border, you against us'. When dealing with bullies, drastic measures are required. This conflict did not start on Oct 7!

 

The ongoing aggression by Israel against Gaza has created an imbalanced power dynamic where the Palestinian people are severely disadvantaged. IDF's  superiority, backed by advanced weaponry(from US) leaves Gazans unable to match the Israeli army's might. This power asymmetry, coupled with discrimination, apartheid-like policies, and rampant human rights violations such as arbitrary detentions without trial, creates a sense of desperation among the oppressed. When faced with relentless oppression and limited means to defend themselves, some individuals tragically resort to acts of terrorism as a desperate attempt to resist occupation and draw attention to their plight. While I don't justiify terrorism , I understanding the root causes, including the unequal power dynamics and systematic injustices. 

 

There is a 98% probability your text is AI generated according to GPYZero, a helpful AI analysis tool.

 

[Bkk Brian]

I know some would like to keep spewing the "Israel is aggressor" rhetoric and deflect from the real axis of evil. 

 

What country is the world's biggest sponsor of terrorism? sowing chaos and death across the world?

 

 

 

[ujayujay]

On 4/14/2024 at 9:38 AM, JackGats said:

A decade and a half ago Jimmy Carter said Israel had about 123 nuclear warheads in its arsenal. Best thing for Israel could be to nuke Iran before it's too late. A small country like Israel can only have a first-strike nuclear doctrine unless it equips itself with a submarine deterrent.

You don't have a more infantile idea

[Bangkok Barry]

A question for those leaders protesting in the strongest possible terms about Iran attacking Israel - what would you do if a country attacked and destroyed one of your consulates, killing many inside? Hmm?

[Nick Carter icp]

5 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

A question for those leaders protesting in the strongest possible terms about Iran attacking Israel - what would you do if a country attacked and destroyed one of your consulates, killing many inside? Hmm?

 

   My Country would nt have terrorists inside its consulate planning to bomb other Countries , 

[Trippy]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

Another one weaponizing antisemitism. 

There is absolutely nothing wrong with pointing out that Biden's administration has more Jews that any other religion. 

 

Can we talk about the lack of Muslims in the Senate/Congress?

 

Of course the US falsify the number of Muslims in the country. Inaccurate representation of Muslim communities in the Census has significant implications for political representation.

You mean the American Muslims that chant "Death to America" ?

 

https://nypost.com/2024/04/08/us-news/anti-israel-protesters-chant-death-to-america-death-to-israel/

Edited April 15 by Trippy

[transam]

13 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

A question for those leaders protesting in the strongest possible terms about Iran attacking Israel - what would you do if a country attacked and destroyed one of your consulates, killing many inside? Hmm?

You missed out one word, "terrorists", that goes in between many and inside....😉

In which case, probably............