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4 minutes ago, Felton Jarvis said:

It's hard to believe that Iran has not been reduced to rubble by now. They've been causing problems since the late seventies and the world just allows them to hold us all as hostages.

Obama and Biden both love Iran. 

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8 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

This is the best explanation of the Mad Mullahs of Iran, this Iranian young lady nail it, if you don't watch anything else please watch this.

"Young people in Iran despise the Ayatollahs, young Socialists in the West support them."

 

Powerful video. I hope the right people are watching it.

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Posted
29 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Could the Iran supporters/Israel opposers here on this forum   reply to her comments ?

How would you guys reply to her ?

She does not care about the children! 

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58 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Besides , when an Embassy engages in military action, the Embassy then loses its right for protection .

 

That could be but then there has to be a ruling on that. One third party country can't decide that's the case and act on their own accord.

 

59 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Its not absurd , Diplomats are only protected from the laws of the Country where they serve in , they arent protected from laws World wide .

 

It is absurd. A third party can't just harm annothers embassy. That's why whenever an embassy's inviolability is breached other third parties jump in to condem the host country. If the system isn't respect by all parties then it's pointless.

 

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

  As a terror group were at the Iran Embassy engaging in terrorism, the Embassy then lost its right for protection 

 

How do you know what they did inside the consulate? We only know who was in there. Would it have been OK for the US to attack the Ecuadorian embassy in London who was at some time giving refuge to Julian Assange? Why couldn't Israel kill them when outside these premises? It simply was a mistake to attack it.

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1 minute ago, transam said:

If those 300+ Iranian airborne stuff had not been intercepted, what would the carnage have been........😱

 

Iran didn't send a couple over to make a point, they sent a lot of money in hardware to do a job which failed via steadfast support and tech..

 

Iran has crossed the line, or should I say, the religious nuts have crossed the line, not those Iranians that want to live a peaceful life........:thumbsup:

 

 

No matter who is pro or against what has just happened ,every one knows Israel will retaliate!

and it will be brutal.

ww3?i have no idea but certainly it will have consequences for the rest of the world.

Is Israel going to force a war with Iran knowing the US will help them?Maybe they are thinking it is better to do it now,before China attacks Taiwan?

It could be a real mess,lets hope there are some people in charge who can and will avoid another WW.

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3 minutes ago, transam said:

If those 300+ Iranian airborne stuff had not been intercepted, what would the carnage have been........😱

 

Iran didn't send a couple over to make a point, they sent a lot of money in hardware to do a job which failed via steadfast support and tech..

 

Iran has crossed the line, or should I say, the religious nuts have crossed the line, not those Iranians that want to live a peaceful life........:thumbsup:

 

 

Iran has crossed the line countless times, but it's an election year, and at least until after the election, Biden is going tobe lot more concerned about the price of gasoline in the US than he is about the lives of few million Jews halfway around the World. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

Has Biden cut off Israel yet? If not what's the hold up? I know he's trying to oust Bibi, but that might be a waste of time.  

Votes & Money!

Some of his supporters are attempting to persuade the  radical’s  in Michigan,who wish death to America to support his election! “The silence is jarring”.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/condemning-death-america-chants-easy-080214456.html

 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Iran has crossed the line countless times, but it's an election year, and at least until after the election, Biden is going tobe lot more concerned about the price of gasoline in the US than he is about the lives of few million Jews halfway around the World. 

We will see, perhaps ol' Joe ain't that bothered about the election, probably had enough, anyhooooo....🤭

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2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Easy to say what you're saying. Must this. Must that. Totally divorced from reality.

And what reality have you got to offer?

More unnecessary deaths to feed one man's ego?

More unnecessary bloodshed.

More destruction?

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Posted
1 hour ago, rabas said:

Some have suggested the principle of embassy inviolability is in itself inviolable, that is omnipotent. It is not, it is omnipotent only in a specific set of circumstances, those related to diplomatic relations.  Why would it it be otherwise?  It's a complex legal question so for clarity let's ask ChatGPT, which can access all information.

 

 

Interesting take. Let's see.

 

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Posted (edited)
47 minutes ago, transam said:

Iran didn't send a couple over to make a point, they sent a lot of money in hardware to do a job which failed via steadfast support and tech..

In fairness, the main reason the attack failed was because Iran had more or less stated what they were going to do - days beforehand. Israel has an effective missile defence system and its allies in the region have been on high alert for months with both US and UK naval vessels constantly monitoring the skies. However, even with that capablity, an unannounced attack would most likely have resulted in more damage.

 

Had the Iranian attack been spontaneous and done more damage, that would have most likely lead to an immediate and probably sustained response by Israel.  Iran may have hundreds of thousands of missiles but it does not have the sophisticated defence systems that the Isarelis have - they know very well that they can't defend themselves against such an attack.

 

Iran acted because in the eyes of its 'brothers', it had to be seen to respond to the attack on its Consulate in Syria. Whilst Israel has not admitted responsibility for that attack, it is widely speculated on as having carried it out.

 

The Iranian public are fed propaganda constantly and I doubt many will know that they could not stand up to a sustained attack by Israel.  As was seen in news footage following the strike on Israel, the capital was full of chest beating Iranian government loyalists who will, I have no doubt, been fed an entirely different story on the efficacy of their attack on Israel.

 

The Iranian attack appears to have been more symbolic than anything else.  If you tell a bank you're going to rob it, they'll put their security on high alert.

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Just now, Eloquent pilgrim said:

Excellent; young, intelligent, articulate, and female; everything the fourteenth century, misogynistic nut-jobs that have power in Iran despise.

 

This young lady showcases how the wonderful young people of Iran have been brutalised and terrorised by the medieval extremists, and how they are the real victims, and the ones that need our support and understanding.

 

Any posters on  here supporting / excusing / justifying the terrorism of the Iranian government are condemning the millions of good people in Iran to continuing subjugation.

Exactly what rights have the women of Iran got.., none, none of these young ladies want to wear the burqa, many have been whipped, tortured and killed by the morality police that goes looking for these unfortunate young ladies that may have let her burqa slip. And people on here defend these mad Mullahs basically because they hate Israel and the Jews, sickening.

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1 minute ago, MangoKorat said:

In fairness, the main reason the attack failed was because Iran had more or less stated what they were going to do - days beforehand. Israel has an effective missile defence system and its allies in the region have been on high alert for months with both US and UK naval vessels constantly monitoring the skies. However, even with that capablity, an unannounced attack would most likely have resulted in more damage.

 

Had the Iranian attack been spontaneous and done more damage, that would have most likely lead to an immediate and probably sustained response by Israel.  Iran may have hundreds of thousands of missiles but it does not have the sophisticated defence systems that the Isarelis have - they know very well that they can't defend themselves against such an attack.

 

Iran acted because in the eyes of its 'brothers', it had to be seen to respond to the attack on its Consulate in Syria. Whilst Israel have not admitted responsibility for that attack, it is widely speculated on as having carried it out.

 

The Iranian public are fed propaganda constantly and I doubt many will know that they could not stand up to a sustained attack by Israel.  As was seen in news footage following the strike on Israel, the capital was full of chest beating Iranian government loyalists who will, I have no doubt, been fed an entirely different story on the efficacy of their attack on Israel.

 

The Iranian attack appears to have been more symbolic than anything else.  If you tell a bank you're going to rob it, they'll put their security on high alert.

I would have thought the Western countries involved are continuously tracking the sky's for any eventuality, do you think they take anything Iran says seriously, no, the West will be doing its own thing.

 

Why send 300+, instead of say, 50 to make a point. The 300+ cost a lot of money, plus they told their "believers", it was a successful raid.........🤭

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1 minute ago, MangoKorat said:

In fairness, the main reason the attack failed was because Iran had more or less stated what they were going to do - days beforehand. Israel has an effective missile defence system and its allies in the region have been on high alert for months with both US and UK naval vessels constantly monitoring the skies. However, even with that capablity, an unannounced attack would most likely have resulted in more damage.

 

Had the Iranian attack been spontaneous and done more damage, that would have most likely lead to an immediate and probably sustained response by Israel.  Iran may have hundreds of thousands of missiles but does not have the sophisticated defence systems that the Isarelis have - they know very well that they can't defend themselves against such an attack.

 

Iran acted because in the eyes of its 'brothers', it had to be seen to respond to the attack on its Consulate in Syria. Whilst Israel have not admitted responsibility for that attack, it is widely speculated on as having carried it out.

 

The Iranian public are fed propaganda constantly and I doubt many will know that they could not stand up to a sustained attack by Israel.  As was seen in news footage following the strike on Israel, the capital was full of chest beating Iranian government loyalists who will, I have no doubt, been fed an entirely different story on the efficacy of their attack on Israel.

 

The Iranian attack appears to have been more symbolic than anything else.  If you tell a bank you're going to rob it, they'll put their security on high alert.

The Iranian attack appears to have been more symbolic than anything else.  If you tell a bank you're going to rob it, they'll put their security on high alert.

 

But that's the same with the US, they told the world they were preparing to hit the Houthis in Yemen before they did it, it was not symbolic. Its normal, preparations take time and with intel held by other nations there's not a lot you can do regards an attack that is secret so may as well be up front about it.

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6 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

Exactly what rights have the women of Iran got.., none, none of these young ladies want to wear the burqa, many have been whipped, tortured and killed by the morality police that goes looking for these unfortunate young ladies that may have let her burqa slip. And people on here defend these mad Mullahs basically because they hate Israel and the Jews, sickening.

 

Indeed; they are so blinded by their virulent antisemitism, that they lose reason to such an extent that they find themselves defending vile acts of inhumanity because of it … no greater example on here than Nearlyaman and his rabbit.

 

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Posted
10 minutes ago, rabas said:

1. Not a few harmless unsophisticated weapons. Over several hours, Iran fired  a mix of 320+ heavy drones, ballistic missiles, computerized cruise missiles, and hypersonic missiles. Roughly the same mix, and likely some same models as Russia is using to devastate Ukraine. Except, Iran's barrage was double the size of Russia's largest barrage to date (158 in one day). It takes lots of man power and coordination to launch such numbers of high tech weapons.

Come off it.  Iran knows very well that it would come off far worse if Israel launched an out and out attack on them.  They also know very well that in addition to Israel's 'Iron Dome' there are US and UK warships in the region with the capability to shoot down just about anything Iran fires (something Ukraine doesn't have).

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