'Openly Jewish' man threatened with arrest by Police near pro-Palestine march

[BangkokReady]

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

Isnt that what I said ?

You said the same thing as I did , but just used different words

 

No.  It is different.

Edited April 20 by BangkokReady

[youreavinalaff]

43 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

That would be the same UK police that allowed multiple muslim grooming gangs to proliferate throughout the UK, for fear of offending a vociferous minority, would it ?

 

The same UK police that allowed a baying mob of muslims to hound a teacher from Batley Grammar school out of his job and home without making one single arrest. That was 3 years ago and the teacher, his wife, and 4 young children, are still in hiding, having all been given new identities. Is this the UK police that you think would treat a muslim in the same way that they treat a jew ?

 

 

No, it wouldn't.

 

No, it isn't.

Edited April 20 by youreavinalaff

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, BangkokReady said:

 

No.  It is different.

 

   Could you explain the difference . 

 

[BangkokReady]

1 minute ago, Wobblybob said:

The police officer quite categorically stated he was openly Jewish, now is that a crime in the UK at the time of my post.

 

How is it a crime?  The Policeman didn't say it was.  Where are you getting this from?  It isn't in the article.

 

The Police officer said he would arrest him to prevent a breach of the peace, not because he was Jewish.

[BangkokReady]

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

   Could you explain the difference .

 

Later, perhaps.

[Wobblybob]

Just now, BangkokReady said:

 

How is it a crime?  The Policeman didn't say it was.  Where are you getting this from?  It isn't in the article.

 

The Police officer said he would arrest him to prevent a breach of the peace, not because he was Jewish.

What breach of the peace was he committing apart from openly being Jewish. 

[Wobblybob]

1 minute ago, BangkokReady said:

 

Later, perhaps.

Why later? 

[Jingthing]

I don't fault police for trying to prevent violent conflicts.

But it is totally unacceptable for anyone to be threatened to be arrested or arrested only for their identifiable identity whatever that is.

That's a line that should never be crossed.

[BangkokReady]

19 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

What breach of the peace was he committing apart from openly being Jewish. 

 

Who said he was committing a breach of the peace?  As I said, look up breach of the peace.  You don't know the meaning of the words you are using, so you cannot fully understand what is being discussed.

[BangkokReady]

19 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

But it is totally unacceptable for anyone to be threatened to be arrested or arrested only for their identifiable identity whatever that is.

 

While this might be true, it isn't what happened.

[Wobblybob]

3 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

Who said he was committing a breach of the peace?  As I said, look up breach of the peace.  You don't know the meaning of the words you are using, so you cannot fully understand what is being discussed.

Again your arrogance leads you to patronise me. The Metropolitan Police have already apologised for that officers insensitive and unacceptable behavior and if you cannot accept the truth there is nobody on here that can help you! 

What is wrong with you! 

[Jingthing]

52 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

While this might be true, it isn't what happened.

Yes it did. 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, Wobblybob said:

Again your arrogance leads you to patronise me. The Metropolitan Police have already apologised for that officers insensitive and unacceptable behavior and if you cannot accept the truth there is nobody on here that can help you! 

What is wrong with you! 

The Met have not apologized for the caution given to the activist that he would be arrested if he did not follow the officer’s instructions.

 

The Met have very rightly apologised for the language used by the officer to describe the activist who was receiving the caution.

 

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

Would anybody suggest arresting a woman with a headscarf if she showed up near a demonstration in support of the Israeli hostages?

So long as, god forbid, nobody said she was ‘openly Muslim’, probably not.

 

 

[CG1 Blue]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

2 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

Would anybody suggest arresting a woman with a headscarf if she showed up near a demonstration in support of the Israeli hostages?

So long as, god forbid, nobody said she was ‘openly Muslim’, probably not.

The point is, the group in support of Israeli hostages are highly unlikely to turn violent. Whereas the pro-Palestine mob...

[Bkk Brian]

I've sort of got this worked out now. If you're Jewish, don't be openly Jewish while out and about in London at the weekends. Even better get one of those Kaffiyeh things to put round your neck to be super duper safe. Now lets not forget this has been going on for 6 months now and likely to carry on for a few months ahead. So if Jewish why not just get out of London at the weekends and get yourself a second home in the Cotswolds or somewhere equally as nice.

[Wobblybob]

7 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The Met have not apologized for the caution given to the activist that he would be arrested if he did not follow the officer’s instructions.

 

The Met have very rightly apologised for the language used by the officer to describe the activist who was receiving the caution.

 

Stop peeing down my leg and tell me it's raining, you are in no position to make any judgement when you refuse to watch the video. 

He was threatened with arrest because he was a Jew, the officer made a poor attempt at policing! 

[Nick Carter icp]

7 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The Met have not apologized for the caution given to the activist that he would be arrested if he did not follow the officer’s instructions.

 

The Met have very rightly apologised for the language used by the officer to describe the activist who was receiving the caution.

 

 

   I don't think that he did receive a Caution from the Police , so they wouldn't retract it or apologise for giving it 

[impulse]

34 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

Stop peeing down my leg and tell me it's raining, you are in no position to make any judgement when you refuse to watch the video. 

He was threatened with arrest because he was a Jew, the officer made a poor attempt at policing! 

 

He was threatened with arrest to protect him from an angry crowd.  In an ideal world, they'd have enough police there to escort him and even arrest the entire crowd if they threatened him.  But this is real life.

 

He had every right to be there.  But there weren't enough cops, and they may have saved his life.   The only thing I'd fault is the language that may have been used.   But emotions run high and cops are human.

 

Edited April 21 by impulse

[Bkk Brian]

5 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

He was threatened with arrest to protect him from an angry crowd.  In an ideal world, they'd have enough police there to escort him and even arrest the entire crowd if they threatened him.  But this is real life.

 

He had every right to be there.  But there weren't enough cops, and they may have saved his life.   The only thing I'd fault is the language that may have been used.   But emotions run high and cops are human.

 

So London is too dangerous for Jews at the weekends is what your saying

[impulse]

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

So London is too dangerous for Jews at the weekends is what your saying

 

Smack dab in the middle of a "Free Palestine" protest?  Yes, it is too dangerous.   But I think London's a big enough place to avoid that area.

 

And let's leave out Jews and Palestinians for a moment.

 

I wonder if you'd defend a guy wearing a MAGA hat to a drag queen story hour, a transgender protest, or an abortion rights protest?

I'd acknowledge his right to be there, but still support the cops for arresting him, for his own safety.  It's not as if they're picking on Jews.  Just people who need to be protected from their own stupidity.

 

[Wobblybob]

13 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

He was threatened with arrest to protect him from an angry crowd.  In an ideal world, they'd have enough police there to escort him and even arrest the entire crowd if they threatened him.  But this is real life.

 

He had every right to be there.  But there weren't enough cops, and they may have saved his life.   The only thing I'd fault is the language that may have been used.   But emotions run high and cops are human.

 

Correct, but why wasn't there enough cops there, surely the fault lies with the police and specifically Sir Mark Rowley, let's not blame one solitary Jew for the inactions of a police force that is as much use as a chocolate fireguard! 

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, impulse said:

 

Smack dab in the middle of a "Free Palestine" protest?  Yes, it is too dangerous.   But I think London's a big enough place to avoid that area.

 

And let's leave out Jews and Palestinians for a moment.

 

I wonder if you'd defend a guy wearing a MAGA hat to a drag queen story hour, a transgender protest, or an abortion rights protest?

I'd acknowledge his right to be there, but still support the cops for arresting him, for his own safety.  It's not as if they're picking on Jews.  Just people who need to be protected from their own stupidity.

 

No lets not deflect into MAGA and drag queens lets stay on topic. That you have admitted London is too dangerous for Jews especially if they happen to be near a Pro Palestinian march which happen to change venues every week and have been ongoing for 6 months.

 

[Wobblybob]

From the horses mouth so to speak, the man at the centre of this debacle gives his side and "enough is enough" 

 

 

[impulse]

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

No lets not deflect into MAGA and drag queens lets stay on topic. That you have admitted London is too dangerous for Jews especially if they happen to be near a Pro Palestinian march which happen to change venues every week and have been ongoing for 6 months.

 

You're making it about Jews and Palestinian protestors.  But it's really about any adversarial entities. 

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, impulse said:

 

You're making it about Jews and Palestinian protestors.  But it's really about any adversarial entities. 

You need to read the OP before telling me what this is about.

 

Pro-Palestinian protests ‘making London no-go zone for Jews’
Counter-extremism tsar Robin Simcox warns of ‘permissive environment for radicalisation’ developing in UK

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/03/07/pro-palestinian-protests-london-no-go-zone-jews/

https://archive.ph/RtodA

[Chomper Higgot]

8 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

The point is, the group in support of Israeli hostages are highly unlikely to turn violent. Whereas the pro-Palestine mob...

I think the point being is you’ve fabricated a scenario in order to announce your pejorative view.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

I've sort of got this worked out now. If you're Jewish, don't be openly Jewish while out and about in London at the weekends. Even better get one of those Kaffiyeh things to put round your neck to be super duper safe. Now lets not forget this has been going on for 6 months now and likely to carry on for a few months ahead. So if Jewish why not just get out of London at the weekends and get yourself a second home in the Cotswolds or somewhere equally as nice.

And Jews are taking part in these demonstrations.

 

So perhaps you have not worked it out.

[JonnyF]

As I said before, being Jewish in London is a precarious situation. 

 

Even the Met police will move you on if you refuse to hide your "Jewishness". That's if they are not too busy chanting pro Palestine songs. 

 

How long before we have legislation criminalizing being ooenly Jewish in a public place?

 

Anti semitism is making quite the comeback. Expect it to get worse under a Labour government. The only hope is for Khan to be ousted as Mayor.

[Bkk Brian]

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

And Jews are taking part in these demonstrations.

 

So perhaps you have not worked it out.

Tell that to the majority of Jews that do not and for very good reasons

 

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