Social Media Posted April 21 Posted April 21 The British Ministry of Defence (MoD) has come under criticism for bureaucratic delays in distributing funds from a £900 million military support package for Ukraine. Despite significant contributions from multiple countries, including the UK, only £404 million has been committed or spent so far. Critics, including shadow defence secretary John Healey, have accused the MoD of moving too slowly in providing essential military equipment to Ukraine, especially as Russia escalates its aggression. Healey emphasized the need for accelerated support to Ukraine in the face of Russian attacks. The International Fund for Ukraine, established in 2022 after Russia's invasion, was intended to swiftly finance military training and equipment for Ukraine. However, the distribution of funds has been hindered by bureaucratic processes, with the MoD citing the need to assess numerous defense companies tendering for contracts. The delays risk deterring potential donors, as President Volodymyr Zelenskiy has highlighted the impact of slowed weapon provision on the frontline. Russia's advances and the lack of Ukrainian air defense have compounded the urgency of delivering military assistance. Despite challenges, equipment such as unmanned aerial systems and heavy-duty vehicles has been provided to Ukraine. The MoD defended its approach, emphasizing thoroughness in reviewing industry responses to fund requirements. While efforts continue to bolster support for Ukraine, criticisms of bureaucratic delays underscore the pressing need for swift and effective military assistance amid ongoing conflict with Russia. 2024.04.22 Source 1 1
thaibeachlovers Posted April 24 Posted April 24 On 4/22/2024 at 10:47 AM, Social Media said: The MoD defended its approach, emphasizing thoroughness in reviewing industry responses to fund requirements. Good for them. They are sending equipment to apparently one of the most corrupt countries in the Northern continent, so they need to be extra careful that the usual suspects are not taking advantage of taxpayer support to enrich themselves. One wonders who the people complaining are? 4 3 2
Popular Post transam Posted April 24 Popular Post Posted April 24 6 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Good for them. They are sending equipment to apparently one of the most corrupt countries in the Northern continent, so they need to be extra careful that the usual suspects are not taking advantage of taxpayer support to enrich themselves. One wonders who the people complaining are? Traitor, Putin lover, blind, no sense, etc, etc......... 3 1 2 1 1 2
Popular Post Wobblybob Posted April 24 Popular Post Posted April 24 9 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Good for them. They are sending equipment to apparently one of the most corrupt countries in the Northern continent, so they need to be extra careful that the usual suspects are not taking advantage of taxpayer support to enrich themselves. One wonders who the people complaining are? Seriously, you need help! 1 1 1 1 3
Popular Post sungod Posted April 24 Popular Post Posted April 24 1 minute ago, Wobblybob said: Seriously, you need help! Makes a change from his pro Hamas posts. 2 2 1
Popular Post transam Posted April 24 Popular Post Posted April 24 1 minute ago, Wobblybob said: Seriously, you need help! TBL just hasn't got a clue.................. 1 1 1 2
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted April 24 Popular Post Posted April 24 13 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Good for them. They are sending equipment to apparently one of the most corrupt countries in the Northern continent, so they need to be extra careful that the usual suspects are not taking advantage of taxpayer support to enrich themselves. One wonders who the people complaining are? You missed the update. Have a great day! Prime Minister Rishi Sunak will announce the largest-ever military aid package to Ukraine from the UK on his visit to Poland today. The £500 million additional funding announced today – which takes us to £3 billion in UK military aid for Ukraine this financial year – will be used to rapidly deliver urgently-needed ammunition, air defence, drones and engineering support. The drones will be procured in the UK and the funds will support a scale-up in domestic defence supply chains. The Ministry of Defence will also send our largest-ever single package of equipment from the UK, designed to help push back the Russian invasion on land, sea and air. https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/britain-to-announce-its-largest-ever-aid-package-to-ukraine/ 2 1 2 1
Hummin Posted April 24 Posted April 24 15 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: Seriously, you need help! Wouldnt be to sure he is the one who need help, not in a case where it is about corruption in Ukraine, which continue to give ukraine more trouble than necessary especially during the war against Russia, where all available resources is needed to win this war. One problem with giving aid and support to Ukraine, is corruption, and where some of the weapons and support ends up. It have been many corruption articles, so wondering why you guys have not paid attention. Even responsible to deliver food for the front, Just a few heads up of many "Payment was made in advance, with some funds transferred abroad, but no arms were ever provided. Corruption has been a major stumbling block in Ukraine's bid to join the European Union. "The SBU said an investigation had "exposed" officials of the ministry of defence and managers of arms supplier Lviv Arsenal, "who stole nearly 1.5 billion hryvnias in the purchase of shells"." Read more https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68120973 The scheme involves the purchase of food which was intended as humanitarian aid. Two high-ranking Ukrainian officials have been named as suspects in an embezzlement scheme uncovered by Ukrainian anti-corruption authorities this week, involving the procurement of humanitarian aid.25. aug. 2566 BE This is just the latest wave of corruption that has swept Ukraine since the war with Russia started in 2022. In January, two major corruption scandals centered on government procurement of military catering services and electrical generators shook the country https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-corruption-railway-ukrzaliznytsia-food-volodymyr-zelenskyy/ 4 1
Popular Post Wobblybob Posted April 24 Popular Post Posted April 24 2 minutes ago, Hummin said: Wouldnt be to sure he is the one who need help, not in a case where it is about corruption in Ukraine, which continue to give ukraine more trouble than necessary especially during the war against Russia, where all available resources is needed to win this war. One problem with giving aid and support to Ukraine, is corruption, and where some of the weapons and support ends up. It have been many corruption articles, so wondering why you guys have not paid attention. Even responsible to deliver food for the front, Just a few heads up of many "Payment was made in advance, with some funds transferred abroad, but no arms were ever provided. Corruption has been a major stumbling block in Ukraine's bid to join the European Union. "The SBU said an investigation had "exposed" officials of the ministry of defence and managers of arms supplier Lviv Arsenal, "who stole nearly 1.5 billion hryvnias in the purchase of shells"." Read more https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68120973 The scheme involves the purchase of food which was intended as humanitarian aid. Two high-ranking Ukrainian officials have been named as suspects in an embezzlement scheme uncovered by Ukrainian anti-corruption authorities this week, involving the procurement of humanitarian aid.25. aug. 2566 BE This is just the latest wave of corruption that has swept Ukraine since the war with Russia started in 2022. In January, two major corruption scandals centered on government procurement of military catering services and electrical generators shook the country https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-corruption-railway-ukrzaliznytsia-food-volodymyr-zelenskyy/ Don't be so patronising, of course we have been following events but then we don't have issues with the West saving innocent Ukrainian lives. You guys take in propaganda like a bath sponge takes in water, why do you want to believe the Russian propaganda, surely you cannot be that naive. Do you think that the innocent Ukrainians that got massacred in Bucha had anything to do with corruption and other towns and cities. You must trawl the internet looking for mud to sling at these people, try to think outside your naivety box for a change, we are talking of innocent Ukrainians losing their lives. Russia is responsible for most of the corruption in Europe and if you want to see corruption take a look at Russia, they couldn't find uniforms for their cannon fodder they sent to die in Ukraine because the Oligarchy had sold them all. What a team you and TBL make. 🥴 2 1 2
Popular Post Hummin Posted April 24 Popular Post Posted April 24 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: Don't be so patronising, of course we have been following events but then we don't have issues with the West saving innocent Ukrainian lives. You guys take in propaganda like a bath sponge takes in water, why do you want to believe the Russian propaganda, surely you cannot be that naive. Do you think that the innocent Ukrainians that got massacred in Bucha had anything to do with corruption and other towns and cities. You must trawl the internet looking for mud to sling at these people, try to think outside your naivety box for a change, we are talking of innocent Ukrainians losing their lives. Russia is responsible for most of the corruption in Europe and if you want to see corruption take a look at Russia, they couldn't find uniforms for their cannon fodder they sent to die in Ukraine because the Oligarchy had sold them all. What a team you and TBL make. 🥴 Huh, russian propaganda now? Enough said, and pull your head out of the single mided state you constantly being in? You of all talking about being taken for a ride when it comes to propaganda is just laughable. Seriously, cant take you seriously after all the BS you have posted Edited April 24 by Hummin 3 2 2 1
Popular Post Wobblybob Posted April 24 Popular Post Posted April 24 2 minutes ago, Hummin said: Huh, russian propaganda now? Enough said, and pull your head out of the single mided state you constantly being in? You of all talking about being taken for a ride when it comes to propaganda is just laughable. Seriously, cant take you seriously after all the BS you have posted Says the man that backs Putins desire to wipe out Ukraine and all it's people. Why do you always back the aggressors, what satisfaction do you get from supporting invading forces. Just for balance, I have never taken anything you said seriously! 1 2 3
Hummin Posted April 24 Posted April 24 2 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: Says the man that backs Putins desire to wipe out Ukraine and all it's people. Why do you always back the aggressors, what satisfaction do you get from supporting invading forces. Just for balance, I have never taken anything you said seriously! This is your cowardly way of debating in every tread, giving me intentions I do not have. But thats how singularity works, cant see the whole picture and meanings. 4 1 1 1
Wobblybob Posted April 24 Posted April 24 Just now, Hummin said: This is your cowardly way of debating in every tread, giving me intentions I do not have. But thats how singularity works, cant see the whole picture and meanings. Don't call me a coward!
Popular Post transam Posted April 24 Popular Post Posted April 24 13 minutes ago, Hummin said: Huh, russian propaganda now? Enough said, and pull your head out of the single mided state you constantly being in? You of all talking about being taken for a ride when it comes to propaganda is just laughable. Seriously, cant take you seriously after all the BS you have posted Eh......? 🤔 1 2
Hummin Posted April 24 Posted April 24 5 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: Just for balance, I have never taken anything you said seriously! Then you should read the links, and do some background checks that proves Ukraine war suffer because of corruption. It is valid links, but some try their best to cover up facts, but still there is plenty. Bad politically if there is to much focus on the negative especially politically in Usa. Why do you believe I would lime to have Putin on my doorstep stronger than ever? Being realistic is something different from wanting Putin to wipe out Ukraine, creating another wave of emmigrants. We have enough already, and more is on their way from Middle east. Sober up 1 5
Hummin Posted April 24 Posted April 24 4 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: Don't call me a coward! typewriter warrior? 3 1 1 1
Popular Post transam Posted April 24 Popular Post Posted April 24 2 minutes ago, Hummin said: typewriter warrior? Yes, you make out to be.......... 1 2
Hummin Posted April 24 Posted April 24 Just now, transam said: Yes, you make out to be.......... Thought you had better and more realistic sense than so, 2
transam Posted April 24 Posted April 24 1 minute ago, Hummin said: Thought you had better and more realistic sense than so, Sorry, but on this subject, I don't agree with you at all..........😥 1 1
Popular Post Wobblybob Posted April 24 Popular Post Posted April 24 Just now, Hummin said: Then you should read the links, and do some background checks that proves Ukraine war suffer because of corruption. It is valid links, but some try their best to cover up facts, but still there is plenty. Bad politically if there is to much focus on the negative especially politically in Usa. Why do you believe I would lime to have Putin on my doorstep stronger than ever? Being realistic is something different from wanting Putin to wipe out Ukraine, creating another wave of emmigrants. We have enough already, and more is on their way from Middle east. Sober up You are so much like TBL in the sense that you talk the biggest load of nonsense and all because of your hatred for the USA and the Jews, it is disgraceful how you post on here, all of it to have a dig at (in this case) Ukraine. Educate yourself and see what damage and massacres the Russians are responsible for in Ukraine, but that doesn't matter to you just as you can blame the USA and not the demented demagod in the Kremlin, never Russia to blame eh. 2 1 3
Popular Post Wobblybob Posted April 24 Popular Post Posted April 24 8 minutes ago, Hummin said: typewriter warrior? Baiting and flaming from someone that is clueless! 1 1 1
Photoguy21 Posted April 24 Posted April 24 That money would be better used building up the UK defences 2 1
Popular Post Seppius Posted April 24 Popular Post Posted April 24 The US package that was recently cleared in Congresses is already mostly in Germany and Poland, will make a huge difference to Ukraine as they will get it very quickly, I believe the UK support then differently with secret intelligence from GCHQ. https://therecord.media/uk-government-confirms-its-intel-agency-is-helping-to-defend-ukraine The Russian front line is ill-equipped https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TvMF5HjfPo&t=375s Russia as a country on its last legs in this war, oil exports have all but ceased, now India and China are stopping buying coal https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/lower-oil-refinery-output-hits-value-russias-q1-exports-central-bank-says-2024-04-18/ https://www.reuters.com/world/china/chinas-coal-imports-russia-fall-21-march-2024-04-20/ It's a failed pariah state, very few countries want to do business with it 1 1 2
Hummin Posted April 24 Posted April 24 13 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: You are so much like TBL in the sense that you talk the biggest load of nonsense and all because of your hatred for the USA and the Jews, it is disgraceful how you post on here, all of it to have a dig at (in this case) Ukraine. Educate yourself and see what damage and massacres the Russians are responsible for in Ukraine, but that doesn't matter to you just as you can blame the USA and not the demented demagod in the Kremlin, never Russia to blame eh. You cant be more wrong, being realistic and aware of what going on in reality, have nothing with hate to do. But thats a long shot to reach you, and you do not understand this double morality is exactly what Putin wants to see and use as propeganda towards Moscow and russia friendly countries. Such as India and China, several middle east countries, Sout American and African. Im no the the problem here, we as an alliance is the priblem, when we do not adress problems that can and will end us. The internal problems in Usa is part of it. Realism is the wors 1 6 1
Popular Post Wobblybob Posted April 24 Popular Post Posted April 24 8 minutes ago, Hummin said: You cant be more wrong, being realistic and aware of what going on in reality, have nothing with hate to do. But thats a long shot to reach you, and you do not understand this double morality is exactly what Putin wants to see and use as propeganda towards Moscow and russia friendly countries. Such as India and China, several middle east countries, Sout American and African. Im no the the problem here, we as an alliance is the priblem, when we do not adress problems that can and will end us. The internal problems in Usa is part of it. Realism is the wors Gibberish and from what I can decipher a total conspiracy theory. 1 2 4
Popular Post Hummin Posted April 24 Popular Post Posted April 24 2 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: Gibberish and from what I can decipher a total conspiracy theory. I feel for you, cant be easy 4 1 3
Wobblybob Posted April 24 Posted April 24 2 minutes ago, Hummin said: I feel for you, cant be easy I would concentrate on your own massive foibles first! 1 1 1
Hummin Posted April 24 Posted April 24 45 minutes ago, transam said: Sorry, but on this subject, I don't agree with you at all..........😥 So there is no corruption that have happen during the supply andnaid of this war that have created problems for Ukraine in the war against Russians? One simple question? Corruption have been up for debate among many contributors, and have lead to two top Ukraine ministers leaving their posts. 1 4 1
Popular Post Hummin Posted April 24 Popular Post Posted April 24 9 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: I would concentrate on your own massive foibles first! Enjoy your day Always enjoy sharing thoughts with you 1 2 1 2
VocalNeal Posted April 24 Posted April 24 Let me see if I understand. Military professionals sworn to defend the country have been given some public funds by elected amateurs. Then these professionals have not given the funds to a third party who don't defend the country. They may have given others surplus old equipment they don't need anymore and will use the funds to replace the donated stuff with new stuff so they can defend the country? 1 3
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