So many lonely guys

[GypsyT]

4 hours ago, henryford1958 said:

That's why i would never have bought in any of the View Taleys.  They look like prison blocks and obviously attract a certain type of person..

That BS. Lots of happy tenants and owners in all of them! VTs have been great investment and are well know worldwide.

Prison block? So what? The best security there is! My land lords at VT2b are from Sicily - can't get more secure than that... 🙂

I am one of your "certain person".

I don't have any serious problems according my parole officer and my government supplied and paid shrink....

[georgegeorgia]

5 hours ago, GypsyT said:

That BS. Lots of happy tenants and owners in all of them! VTs have been great investment and are well know worldwide.

Prison block? So what? The best security there is! My land lords at VT2b are from Sicily - can't get more secure than that... 🙂

I am one of your "certain person".

I don't have any serious problems according my parole officer and my government supplied and paid shrink....

Absolutely,I was locked up in that VT 2B last May 

I had to escape,luckily a member here EK drove past at the back of the cafe and I jumped the fence !

[jacko45k]

15 hours ago, henryford1958 said:

That's why i would never have bought in any of the View Taleys.  They look like prison blocks and obviously attract a certain type of person..

I agree and often called my friend's place in VT 5, 'Cell Block H'... but he is still there, still happy, and tells me the place is well managed. 

[Woke to Sounds of Horking]

On 12/28/2024 at 11:39 PM, Hummin said:

So many old men strolling around alone, eating alone, sitting alone and more elderly men sitting  at the beach roads. 

 

Can't remember I see so many before without the spark in their eyes, and just look like walking dead.

I was in Kampot, Cambodia, several months ago.

 

Noticed a similar thing there.

[Celsius]

11 hours ago, GypsyT said:

VTs have been great investment and are well know worldwide

 

😂

[Jim Blue]

I got 75 books in my library !

[georgegeorgia]

And that View talay 2B they lock you in the cafe 

Thankfully I'm banned from that cafe in that building and good riddance to them!

I had to put a orange safety vest on just to walk through that long driveway to view talay 2B 

 

 

 

 

[georgegeorgia]

On 12/29/2024 at 4:39 PM, Hummin said:

Just visited Jomtien and Pattaya, I have to give Georgy right. 

 

So many old men strolling around alone, eating alone, sitting alone and more elderly men sitting  at the beach roads. 

 

Can't remember I see so many before without the spark in their eyes, and just look like walking dead.

 

Something have happened sine last time I visited.

 

Sad, really

 

And also noticeable men with holiday gf or wife, the same, no smiles, no sparks in their eyes.

 

Jomtien and Pattaya have truly became last stop for many who moved to paradise.

 

Not even old many of them 60'ies and up I would guess, but acting like 80

Yes many of them alone 

I wonder if they are expats or just tourists visiting this not knowing anyone ?

Do the expats in Jomtien talk to each other or do they keep to themselves 

 

I did see a few mobility scooters outside that bar going into the Jomtien complex with the live singers ,they seem to be in there ....talking to each other about their sickness and illness 

[EVENKEEL]

On 1/6/2025 at 2:44 AM, georgegeorgia said:

Absolutely,I was locked up in that VT 2B last May 

I had to escape,luckily a member here EK drove past at the back of the cafe and I jumped the fence !

Always glad to help brother.

[SAFETY FIRST]

On 12/29/2024 at 12:39 PM, Hummin said:

So many old men strolling around alone, eating alone, sitting alone and more elderly men sitting  at the beach roads. 

Can't remember I see so many before without the spark in their eyes, and just look like walking dead.

Something have happened sine last time I visited.

Sad, really

Yes, this is very common.

 

Sadly, most are on a budget, they don't have the funds for a quality life, unable to fund a hobby, no car or bike to get around, just eating a meagre meal, no money to eat at a nice restaurant and to top it off, no family to spend quality time with.

 

It must be a very lonely, sad life.

 

I'm very lucky, I have a big family here in Pattaya. 

[jippytum]

You sound like a person who enjoys their own space and company. Nothing wrong with that. However l made friends with people over the years sometimes a friendship that started from a causual polite convesation. 

[newbee2022]

The lonely ones are here on AN

[jacko45k]

36 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

The lonely ones are here on AN

As you and I are...... it is a form of social interaction though. 

[Thingamabob]

This posting appears to have been written in May of last year. Anyway, for very many years I used to occasionally visit Pattaya for a blast for a few days max, and then be gone.  Never sought contact with local expats. I was there to enjoy the company of the Thai flora and fauna.

[jippytum]

On 5/4/2024 at 12:13 PM, OneMoreFarang said:

How often does that happen to you?

 

Sometimes I start a conversation with a stranger, and sometimes a stranger starts a conversation with me. I met interesting people that way.

 

I think the important part it that we or the other guy doesn't have to answer. Or maybe just nod and that's it. I wouldn't want to try to talk to someone 3 times and he ignores me 3 times. Or the other way around. But in my experience that happens seldom.

 

On the other hand, many people write that they have no friends. Or complain that others only look at their phones. I think there is nothing wrong with meeting new people.

Agreed.  remember the next person you meet could  end up being your best friend 

[SiSePuede419]

Loneliness can have life threatening consequences.

 

So, they're in Pattaya for their health.

 

Science. 😄

 

Loneliness can indeed have life-threatening consequences, as research has strongly linked social isolation and loneliness to an increased risk of various health problems including heart disease, stroke, depression, dementia, and even premature death; essentially, prolonged loneliness can significantly impact a person's overall health and wellbeing, potentially leading to fatal outcomes. 
Key points about the dangers of loneliness:
Physical health impact:
Loneliness can contribute to high blood pressure, weakened immune system, and increased risk of cardiovascular diseases. 
Mental health impact:
It is strongly associated with depression, anxiety, and increased suicidal thoughts. 
Cognitive decline:
Studies suggest a link between social isolation and cognitive decline, potentially increasing the risk of dementia. 
Stress hormone elevation:
Feeling lonely can lead to increased cortisol levels, which can have detrimental effects on the body. 
 

 

 

[newbee2022]

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

As you and I are...... it is a form of social interaction though. 

I'm afraid that AN will go the same way as X (former Twitter). Discussions don't happen, just confrontation.

Even this is interaction as you said. 

Kind of brutalization?

[zepplin]

On 5/4/2024 at 11:41 AM, georgegeorgia said:

I have come to the conclusion after 2 weeks here that there are many lonely guys here expats living in hot shoebox rooms , 

 

I have had to start using my headphones to deter lonely people AND attention seekers 

 

Attention seekers are guys who look for you and try to get a reaction 

One guy sitting next to me on a banana chair trying to impress me that he can speak thai , shouting in the phone then looking to see if I'm looking 

 

I sit outside in view talay apartment reading my books right in a corner chair well AWAY from others only to get some one who wants to sit next to me ,all the way out of the way from the pool,only me sitting there doing my statistics and data study  and still get a farang sit next to me and proceed to shout on a phone call in Thai.!

 

I then had to get my headphones out or move, he then got angry tapped me on the shoulder ' hey buddy do you know what time it is ?

 

Lonely guys ,please don't make a expat life exciting if you are living in shoe boxes looking to attention seeking for lonilessness 

Life here in Pattaya doesn't look exciting to these old bored expats 

 

I'm here to read my books not have get into conversations or hear your whinging stories 

 

 

 

Seems like the grumpy old man virus has creeped into you…

[rckmc]

On 5/4/2024 at 11:41 AM, georgegeorgia said:

I have come to the conclusion after 2 weeks here that there are many lonely guys here expats living in hot shoebox rooms , 

 

I have had to start using my headphones to deter lonely people AND attention seekers 

 

Attention seekers are guys who look for you and try to get a reaction 

One guy sitting next to me on a banana chair trying to impress me that he can speak thai , shouting in the phone then looking to see if I'm looking 

 

I sit outside in view talay apartment reading my books right in a corner chair well AWAY from others only to get some one who wants to sit next to me ,all the way out of the way from the pool,only me sitting there doing my statistics and data study  and still get a farang sit next to me and proceed to shout on a phone call in Thai.!

 

I then had to get my headphones out or move, he then got angry tapped me on the shoulder ' hey buddy do you know what time it is ?

 

Lonely guys ,please don't make a expat life exciting if you are living in shoe boxes looking to attention seeking for lonilessness 

Life here in Pattaya doesn't look exciting to these old bored expats 

 

I'm here to read my books not have get into conversations or hear your whinging stories 

 

 

 

Move to south Jomtien and you can live in the slums of old Stalingrad. I agree this place is no more. It was good for saving some money for a while but now its a sad story that nobody wants to read.

[Hummin]

2 minutes ago, rckmc said:

Move to south Jomtien and you can live in the slums of old Stalingrad. I agree this place is no more. It was good for saving some money for a while but now its a sad story that nobody wants to read.

Unfortunate you meet expats all over the country who came with a dream, and now realize not only their currency is as strong as it used to be, but prices for food and entertainment makes life a bit more difficult to enjoy life. Less socializing, more lifestyle issues, and what about partners? 

 

Jomtien is not the worst place, and for normal people it is easy to get around and enjoy a simple life, but you need to maintain an healthy mind to live not only in Pattaya, but anywhere you want to retire. 

 

There is no easy escapes being an expat in Thailand. 

 

 

[rckmc]

12 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Unfortunate you meet expats all over the country who came with a dream, and now realize not only their currency is as strong as it used to be, but prices for food and entertainment makes life a bit more difficult to enjoy life. Less socializing, more lifestyle issues, and what about partners? 

 

Jomtien is not the worst place, and for normal people it is easy to get around and enjoy a simple life, but you need to maintain an healthy mind to live not only in Pattaya, but anywhere you want to retire. 

 

There is no easy escapes being an expat in Thailand. 

 

 

The contrast between smiling friendly Thai's and dead stare, unfriendly Russians is a train wreck waiting to occur. Im not going to be around when that happens RIP Thailand! As far as currencies go, obviously its all by design to usher us into a new system without our approval of course. Ill let you guess who is behind it all and it isnt the British Crown as they say (which once consisted of Celts).

[PomPolo]

Hahaha love this classic clickbait, had a  giggle reading the replies!

[newnative]

On 5/4/2024 at 12:13 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Why did you go to Pattaya to read books though ?

Its a place that is known for prostitution , drinking and noise .

Why didn't you go to location where the people that go to Pattaya don't go ?

There are plenty of places in Thailand where you can go and sit quietly on your own to read a book , Pattaya isn't one of them 

 

On 5/4/2024 at 11:41 AM, georgegeorgia said:

I have come to the conclusion after 2 weeks here that there are many lonely guys here expats living in hot shoebox rooms , 

 

I have had to start using my headphones to deter lonely people AND attention seekers 

 

Attention seekers are guys who look for you and try to get a reaction 

One guy sitting next to me on a banana chair trying to impress me that he can speak thai , shouting in the phone then looking to see if I'm looking 

 

I sit outside in view talay apartment reading my books right in a corner chair well AWAY from others only to get some one who wants to sit next to me ,all the way out of the way from the pool,only me sitting there doing my statistics and data study  and still get a farang sit next to me and proceed to shout on a phone call in Thai.!

 

I then had to get my headphones out or move, he then got angry tapped me on the shoulder ' hey buddy do you know what time it is ?

 

Lonely guys ,please don't make a expat life exciting if you are living in shoe boxes looking to attention seeking for lonilessness 

Life here in Pattaya doesn't look exciting to these old bored expats 

 

I'm here to read my books not have get into conversations or hear your whinging stories 

 

 

 

Utter rubbish.

[newnative]

On 5/4/2024 at 12:13 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Why did you go to Pattaya to read books though ?

Its a place that is known for prostitution , drinking and noise .

Why didn't you go to location where the people that go to Pattaya don't go ?

There are plenty of places in Thailand where you can go and sit quietly on your own to read a book , Pattaya isn't one of them 

More utter rubbish.

[rckmc]

19 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Unfortunate you meet expats all over the country who came with a dream, and now realize not only their currency is as strong as it used to be, but prices for food and entertainment makes life a bit more difficult to enjoy life. Less socializing, more lifestyle issues, and what about partners? 

 

Jomtien is not the worst place, and for normal people it is easy to get around and enjoy a simple life, but you need to maintain an healthy mind to live not only in Pattaya, but anywhere you want to retire. 

 

There is no easy escapes being an expat in Thailand. 

 

 

A local bar I used to stop by and have one or two when I first got here a few years ago was always at least a happy place with well known music or maybe any number of sports on the TV (golf, rugby, football (both of them) etc) and you might even meet someone with an upbeat positive outlook in the present tense, now I walk by this place and its Russians all individually staring ahead with a cell phone in one hand and a look like deer in the headlights. Makes me physically ill.

[KannikaP]

1 hour ago, newbee2022 said:

I'm afraid that AN will go the same way as X (former Twitter). Discussions don't happen, just confrontation.

Even this is interaction as you said. 

Kind of brutalization?

Why no (formerly TV) after AN? Just to keep us all up tp date! 555

[Hummin]

44 minutes ago, rckmc said:

A local bar I used to stop by and have one or two when I first got here a few years ago was always at least a happy place with well known music or maybe any number of sports on the TV (golf, rugby, football (both of them) etc) and you might even meet someone with an upbeat positive outlook in the present tense, now I walk by this place and its Russians all individually staring ahead with a cell phone in one hand and a look like deer in the headlights. Makes me physically ill.

All the good things we remember, doesn't exists anymore the way we remember them.

 

When I First came to Thailands beaches,  I could go anywhere and find like-minded people to socialize with both daytime and evening. No internet, reading books, meet up for activities during the day, climbing, hiking, kayaking, snorkeling, diving trips, motorbike trips down to boarder, and useally met for breakest and dinners, as well parties. 

 

At my age now, the only hope to make new friends is to ride motorbikes either organize trips, which I have done, or join other group tours. Play golf, visit neighbours, or any other possible meeting points, and I find myself among people I have nothing in common with.

 

Very few I have met who are retired I can associate with, and just a few who do, but they are working full-time. 

 

Everyone need a good plan for retirement, and not just trust their finances will fix everything, but ,,,,,,,,,,

 

Always have a plan be, and if things doesn't work out the way you hoped for, move, try something different. 

 

 

[newnative]

On 1/5/2025 at 3:59 PM, henryford1958 said:

That's why i would never have bought in any of the View Taleys.  They look like prison blocks and obviously attract a certain type of person..

       More utter nonsense.  Spouse and I owned 9 View Talay condos, at various times, scattered around VT3, 5C, 5D, and 7.  Sold every one of them at a profit.  Each of the projects is in a good, beachside location.  From VT3 on, the projects offered much larger units, many 90 sqm or more, in addition to 48 sqm studios, which are actually larger than a lot of studios in new projects of 25 sqm or less.   We have been in some stunning VT condos, including a beautiful condo of a friend of ours in one of the bigger units in VT3.  Like Pattaya itself, you get a number of people that don't know what they are talking about when they discuss condos, VT included.

     Contrary to some of the snide remarks here, including yours, the majority of the residents I encountered when I lived in the VT condos with my spouse were normal folk, living normal lives.  That was also true for the other projects we lived at--from Garden Cliff in the north to Lumpini Park Beach in the south--with a number of stops at other condos in-between.  Some married, some single.  Some living there full-time, some living in their condos only during the winter months, escaping European, Canadian, and US winters. 

     The VTs have a very reasonable condo fee so many from cold countries can afford to keep a VT condo year-round, even though they may only use it during the winter months.  When we lived at VT3, in a large 100+ sqm corner unit much bigger than many of the smaller condos in new buildings, we met a nice couple from Europe who did just that.  Originally, they rented a VT3 condo just during the winter months but then decided to buy a condo so they could keep their stuff in it year-round and not have to move in and out every year--the low condo fee made it an easy choice.

[SAFETY FIRST]

4 minutes ago, newnative said:

On 1/5/2025 at 3:59 PM, henryford1958 said:

That's why i would never have bought in any of the View Taleys.  They look like prison blocks and obviously attract a certain type of person..

       More utter nonsense.  Spouse and I owned 9 View Talay condos, at various times, scattered around VT3, 5C, 5D

I'm sure he's talking about VT1 and VT2, they are very different to 3, 5 and 7.

 

VT1 and 2 are set back from the beach, around 1km and are run down with mostly occupied by down and out foreigners. 

 

VT3, 5 and 7 are occupied by very different people, located on the beach and are much nicer designed and well maintained. 

 

 

 

[Celsius]

On 1/6/2025 at 2:44 AM, georgegeorgia said:

Absolutely,I was locked up in that VT 2B last May 

I had to escape,luckily a member here EK drove past at the back of the cafe and I jumped the fence !

 

Glad to help