Gasping For Air: Thai Passengers React to Engine Mishap

[JimTripper]

26 minutes ago, sungod said:

Fly on a cheap crap airline and then complain about crap service.

Would be lucky if anyone complained here. More likely, people just sat there with their donut. Looks like someone did take a video though, probably without comment.

[cowellandrew]

18 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Planes have 3 engines 2 of which can fail and the plane can still fly but yes if both main engines fail your time is more than likely up depending where it happens. They do have pretty good glide time so if a landing is possible so is survival.

I think flying on your 3rd engine the APU could be a bit difficult, may be like flying a bin lid,

Going down rapidly

[newbee2022]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

On a Nok Air flight from Bangkok to Songkhla province, passengers found themselves gasping for air due to an engine failure. The experience was shared by a Thai woman on her TikTok account, Milkyway.mkw.

 

The incident on May 4 saw passengers using airline brochures as fans amidst the heat while waiting on the runway.

 

The plane's engine failed during takeoff. Despite the pilot's effort to restart it, it wasn't successful. Adding to the discomfort, the plane's air conditioning system was also not working. However, attempts to provide relief by serving cold water proved to be insufficient.

 

After being towed back to its original parking spot after an hour, passengers waited in the terminal. When they reboarded the same plane, another engine failure further agitated them. Passengers expressed frustration and safety concerns. 

 

Nok Air offered to change planes and provided a donut and a bottle of water as compensation. The flight, which was scheduled for departure at 1.20pm, finally took off at 6.05pm. 

 

Numerous passengers expressing their ordeal on social media criticized the airline's mishandling of the situation. They have demanded an explanation and proper compensation from Nok Air, which is yet to respond officially.

 

videoscreenshot via TikTok/ @milkyway.mkw

 

-- 2024-05-08

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For a Donut and some cold water....😩

I hope passengers will get a good compensation🥴

[Bangkok Barry]

1 hour ago, stix40 said:

1 donut 🍩 

And a bottle of water 💦 

These people don't know there born 

When I grew up 127 of us lived in shoebox 

Got up 4 o'clock int morning licked road clean 

A sucked on a damp cloth 

Before going to school 

1 donut 

1 bottle of water 

You're lucky 

 

 

You were lucky. You had a shoebox. And a cloth. We had to lick dew off plants.

[Bangkok Barry]

If Nok was the only airline flying to a destination I wanted to go to, I probably wouldn't go. I've had several issues with them over the years and now avoid them. Just for amusement, when I'm at Don Mueang airport I like to look at the departure board and count how many of their flights are cancelled. There are always several. Always.

[dinsdale]

13 minutes ago, cowellandrew said:

Let's not get pedantic yes some planes have 2 engines plus the APU,

Some planes have 4 engines and the APU,

 

The B52 has eight engines!

The last gun fighter has only 1

F8 Vought Crusader 

We are talking passenger jets are we not. Airbus A340 and A380 and the few 747's still flying with 4 main engines apart from that it's 2 + APU.

[oldestswinger]

1 hour ago, Georgealbert said:

This aircraft has been with Nok Air, since 2014, and maybe a maintenance issue, nothing to do with the fact it was a Boeing.

So its 10-yearly service is due!

[Zack61]

1 hour ago, fondue zoo said:

 

What type of donut, the public deserves to know damn it!

 

 

Hopefully a Krispy Kreme. 

[HK MacPhooey]

38 minutes ago, RobU said:

Boeing aircraft have more safety and maintenance issues because the initial build was sloppy. That especially includes wiring looms with wires that have been joined in many places instead of a single length (which is against build regulations ). The joins fail and electrical issues like this ensue. 

But then again probably not the issue

[JoePai]

2 hours ago, soalbundy said:

Two cases of engine failure in one day, Boeing?

Fortunately not in this case as Boeing do not make engines 

[Bangkok Barry]

 

The leading headline in the AN Newsletter tells a different tale, of mid-air panic in a plane that didn't leave the ground.

[twizzian]

An embarrassing compensation offer.

Who are the real Donut's

[fondue zoo]

1 hour ago, AhFarangJa said:

We lived in a plastic bag

 

You had a plastic bag?  check out Mr fancy pants over here.

[hotchilli]

55 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

You are assuming that a 'normal' engine start-up on push back was ever done.

 

You are also assuming that the APU "could" be started.

 

But it's also highly likely that the whole chain of events has been misinterpreted and misreported by local media. I reckon that's a safe assumption.

Normal engine start-up on push back wasn't achieved, hence the tech problem, it was eventually pulled back to the gate after the Captain tried to re-start but failed.
If the APU could not be started the aircraft would be grounded anyway.

 

[cnx101]

5 hours ago, flyingtlger said:

Ba ha ha ha......

They will give them two donuts

[Korat Kiwi]

47 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

 

You were lucky. You had a shoebox. And a cloth. We had to lick dew off plants.

We used to have to get up half an hour before we went to bed. 

 

Drink tea out of a rolled up newspaper

 

Work down mill day in day out

 

And when we got home, dad would slice us in two with bread knife

[actonion]

Thai's don't do Maintenance,............. on anything

[impulse]

3 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Has Songkhla got an airport?

 

I've always had to fly from Bangkok to HatYai, then drive to Songkhla. 

 

 

Hat Yai is in Songkhla ...province.  I always hoped they'd reactivate the military airstrip in Songkhla town itself to save that white knuckle drive from Hat Yai to town.  Our company didn't allow employees to fly into HDY after dark, because of the dangerous drive into SKL.

 

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[Georgealbert]

52 minutes ago, oldestswinger said:

So its 10-yearly service is due!

All aircraft have maintenance check periods and for the 737 I believe is as follows:

 

A check – every 500 FH.(flight hours) Now known as a P1 check.

 

B check – every 6 months. For modern aircraft this is now incorporated into A or C checks.

 

C check – every 4-6,000 FH / 2-3 years. Now P8, P10 or P12 checks.

 

D check – every 24-40,000 FH / 9-12 years. Typically a P48 check.

 

D Checks involves comprehensive inspections and repairs of the entire aircraft. Technicians basically dismantle the airplane and put it back together. This check can take about three to six weeks and costs several millions of dollars.

 

The aircraft in this minor incident, is leased, and the maintenance schedules, will be part of that lease agreement.

 

https://wtruib.ru/boeing_737/amm/FLIGHT_CONTROLS/

[arick]

3 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

This is the thread from Monday, which shows CAAT (Civil Aviation Authority of Thailand) asking about this flight.

 

 

All old aircraft.

[chuang]

2 hours ago, fondue zoo said:

 

What type of donut, the public deserves to know damn it!

 

 

Gold coated...

[Georgealbert]

5 minutes ago, arick said:

All old aircraft.

Here are the details of Nok’s current fleet.

 

[FritsSikkink]

2 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Having an APU malfunction isn't a big mishap especially before take off. Even having an engine fail mid-air is no biggie. Serious yes but not fatal.

Treating your passengers as cattle is a biggie.

[RobU]

1 hour ago, JoePai said:

Fortunately not in this case as Boeing do not make engines 

But they do make the electrical wiring looms that go from the cockpit controls to the engine management system. Which as I said before those looms are often illegally cobbled together with joined up wiring scraps, the joins fail and the electrical issues ensue including engine failure 

[Jonathan Swift]

6 hours ago, flyingtlger said:

Ba ha ha ha......

A line stolen from Frank Zappa. 

[Cabradelmar]

Sounds like the plane never got airborne. Probably a blessing in disguise. 

[In Full Agreement]

2 hours ago, sungod said:

Fly on a cheap crap airline and then complain about crap service.

 

 

Normally I'd agree with you about the absurdity of paying as little as possible and then complaining that it doesn't meet standards.   This matter falls into a different category, however.      

 

Maintenance of an aircraft is  essential.    Inadequate maintenance is not the same as deleting olives in the food service salad.

 

 

[Georgealbert]

2 hours ago, RobU said:

Boeing aircraft have more safety and maintenance issues because the initial build was sloppy. That especially includes wiring looms with wires that have been joined in many places instead of a single length (which is against build regulations ). The joins fail and electrical issues like this ensue. 

Fully agree that currently Boeing’s reputation is in pieces, but we are currently seeing that every event involving a Boeing aircraft hits social media and the news immediately, and sometimes without considered opinion or expert insight, Boeing are blamed, even if is human error, airlines faults, maintenance issues. This incident was minor, with a short delay and the aircraft completed the flight after corrective action.
 

FAA (Federal Aviation Administration) issues Airworthiness Directives, to all aircraft types. These are legally enforceable rules issued by in accordance with 14 CFR (Code of Federal Regulations) part 39 to correct an unsafe condition in a product. 14 CFR part 39 defines a product as an aircraft, aircraft engine, propeller, or appliance.

 

A full searchable list of these directives can be found here.

 

https://drs.faa.gov/browse

 

The International Air Transport Association (IATA) recently stated that “ Flying is the safest mode of transport, with one accident for every 1.26 million flights. At this level of safety, on average a person would have to travel by air every day for 103,239 years to experience a fatal accident.”

 

In 2023 there was only a single fatal accident involving a turboprop aircraft, which resulted in 72 fatalities. Yeti Airlines Flight 691, from Kathmandu to Pokhara in Nepal, on 15 January 2023, an ATR 72, from an Franco-Italian aircraft manufacturer

 

For comparison’s sake, 158 people died in aviation accidents in 2022, with more than 65,000 dying on roads in the UK, US and EU in the same year.

 

[sabai-dee-man]

4 hours ago, AhFarangJa said:

Luxury.......We lived in a plastic bag in a septic tank.......

 

You had it easy...