traveller101 Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 10 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said: If you're going on "a book and videos", you know nothing about the conditions of Klong Prem, the facility that also houses the women's prison. Without exception, all of them comprise over-dramatic exaggerations and lies with the only intentions being to create agitation and as much money as possible for the authors or producers. A product of your imagination? If not, please explain your detailed insights to life behind bars in Thailand. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keeps Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 3 hours ago, Mayhem11 said: Who are you RT555? I reported you for slanderous racism. I guess you have been outsmarted by Aussies you miserable piece of sh##te. Anyone who has been outsmarted by an Aussie must be extremely dim indeed. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 (edited) 13 minutes ago, traveller101 said: A product of your imagination? If not, please explain your detailed insights to life behind bars in Thailand. Who cares? Why would anyone admit in a public forum to having spent time in a prison in any country? Is it a badge of honour? They only do so when there is something in it for them from that admission! Edited May 16 by scottiejohn 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr Dome Posted May 16 Popular Post Share Posted May 16 While prison is supposed to be a deterrent, Thai prisons are a violation of basic human rights. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainham Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 It was purely and simply bad luck from what I've read, 24 years ago Holly was simply trying to send some heroin back to her family in Australia and she got caught she had a few blankets to sleep on unlike the other inmates but it was hellish she didn't even have a pony or a gypsies for a month I'm not sure how anyone can go a month anyway 24 years later she is writing about it she should come to the UK she would definitely get some sympathy and a 2 bedroom house and a few grand over here just have to start crying and make out you've got a syndrome or you got a beating of someone and it's affected your mind the whole country is full of lazy lying <deleted>. before it was I'm a single mum now it's I'm a single mum with 2 kids with severe learning difficulties. Hope this helps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 9 minutes ago, Mr Dome said: While prison is supposed to be a deterrent, Thai prisons are a violation of basic human rights. Which Human rights do Thai prisons violate ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikosan Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 (edited) 15 hours ago, webfact said: Holly Deane-Johns, an Australian woman who spent seven gruelling years in a Thai prison for heroin trafficking, has opened up about the appalling conditions she endured in the notorious Lardyao Women’s Correctional Institution, often dubbed the "Bangkok Hilton." In 2000, Holly, then aged 29, was caught trying to mail a parcel of heroin to her family in Perth. She faced the death penalty but was instead sentenced to 31 years in the overcrowded and squalid prison. Speaking on the True Crime Australia podcast with Gary Jubelin, Holly recounted the horror she faced upon arrival. “More than 100 Thai women were sitting on blankets. I asked if anyone spoke English, and one woman raised her hand. She found me a spot to sleep, but there was literally no visible floor space,” she said. The woman instructed others to lie down, revealing a sliver of the floor about nine inches wide. “That was my bed for the next seven years.” Prisoners had to bring their own essentials. “Some couldn’t afford blankets. I bought a couple and folded them to sleep on,” Holly shared. Picture courtesy of Holly Deane-Johns via Daily Star UK She detailed the primitive conditions, “In my section, there were 2,000 women and only 10 toilets in the yard. Fights over sleeping spots and washing facilities were common. As soon as the cell doors opened, it was a stampede to the trough of cold water. You had to strip naked before the doors opened, or others would pull at your clothes to slow you down.” Her first shower was nearly violent. “A trustee looked like she’d hit me with a metal bar for being slow, but I made it clear I’d fight back. We later became friends, and she let me store my blankets safely.” Holly faced relentless stress and frequent fights. “My first fight was with a friend, and I don’t even know what it was about. It was that crazy.” Even using the toilets was traumatic. “There was no privacy. I didn’t use the toilet for a month because I was so embarrassed. Eventually, I realised I had to adapt. I decided to live like a Thai.” After a long campaign, Holly was transferred to an Australian prison in 2007, where she served another five years before her release in 2012. Since then, she has authored a book titled “Holly’s Hell,” detailing her harrowing experience in the Bangkok Hilton, shedding light on the brutal reality behind its walls. Picture courtesy of Holly Deane-Johns via Daily Star UK -- 2024-05-16 Get our Daily Newsletter - Click HERE to subscribe No sympathy whatsoever. Shame you didn't have to serve the whole 31 years in there. And the fact that you now intend to profit from your criminal activities is a disgrace. Edited May 16 by mikosan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Meyers Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 16 hours ago, bigt3116 said: Sorry, but deserved all she got. Prison is not Club Med. She knew the risk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thechook Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Never heard about her and I'm Australian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Swift Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 18 hours ago, IvorBiggun2 said: So what did she use????? You have to buy the book. Maybe she just went in her pants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Swift Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 3 hours ago, mikosan said: No sympathy whatsoever. Shame you didn't have to serve the whole 31 years in there. And the fact that you now intend to profit from your criminal activities is a disgrace. So where do you get your moral authority from? The judges ruled according to law. It's not up to you or any other person ignorant of the law and prone to slinging malicious judgements toward others. The reasons we have laws, constitutions and courts is because people like you are not qualified to decide the fate of other people. People in all civilized countries regularly have sentences reduced or they are paroled for due cause. That is because such people are regarded as redeemable, that they have true remorse for what they did, and not regarded as less than human as you seem prone to do. She is not profiting from her criminal activities. Her criminal activities were selling heroin. She paid the price for it. She didn't commit murder or a violent crime. She is not profiting from anything directly connected to anything illegal, nor is she doing anything illegal now from which she seeks to make profit. She is telling her story, which she is entitled to do. She doesn't require your sympathy. This story has nothing to do with sympathy. It's a true story of a true human experience and as such it has value. The malice that you display in your comment shows you to be a worse person than she is. She is certainly not a malicious, condescending, judgmental person. Think about that. I would not be in the same room with the likes of you. I feel sorry for your kids if you have them. I wonder what kinds of abuses you would justify against them or your partner. That's precisely what your comment suggests about you. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Swift Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 16 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said: If you're going on "a book and videos", you know nothing about the conditions of Klong Prem, the facility that also houses the women's prison. Without exception, all of them comprise over-dramatic exaggerations and lies with the only intentions being to create agitation and as much money as possible for the authors or producers. And what is the evidence to support YOUR claim and statements? You're an expert because . . . ? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwikeith Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 18 hours ago, frank83628 said: it's a punishment, not supposed to be a walk in the park like the UK prisons. It makes me wonder why people take the risk of going to jail in Thailand. I had a friend who spent time in jail for being the boyfriend of a important Thai, she was 17 at the time, long story but they locked him up and never informed his family, a social worker got word out after 4 years of hell. What he told me about prison life in Thailand was that it's living hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAFETY FIRST Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 1 hour ago, kiwikeith said: It makes me wonder why people take the risk of going to jail in Thailand So they can write a book to sell and make a small fortune. 💲💲💲💲 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xonax Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 20 hours ago, freeworld said: Don't think so. Govt locking people up and then treating them inhumanely is not how its supposed to work. Of course she should be punished but for them to allow and treat prisoners as objects is not OK. Giving inmates a harsh prison term, will deter many others from becoming criminals, which is a great benefit to society! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuang Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 21 hours ago, frank83628 said: it's a punishment, not supposed to be a walk in the park like the UK prisons. She expected a Four Seasons hotel accomodations... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 If I were the judge or person deciding who leaves the prison beforehand / sent to serve the remainder of sentence in their own country, I would have denied her. I would mark her file to be served as sentenced. Drug traffickers deserve the harshest of penalties. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 (edited) 6 hours ago, Jonathan Swift said: 23 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said: If you're going on "a book and videos", you know nothing about the conditions of Klong Prem, the facility that also houses the women's prison. Without exception, all of them comprise over-dramatic exaggerations and lies with the only intentions being to create agitation and as much money as possible for the authors or producers. And what is the evidence to support YOUR claim and statements? You're an expert because . . . ? Because of personal experience in Klong Prem, I've been in there and I'm not selling a book! Edited May 17 by Liverpool Lou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 12 hours ago, traveller101 said: 23 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said: If you're going on "a book and videos", you know nothing about the conditions of Klong Prem, the facility that also houses the women's prison. Without exception, all of them comprise over-dramatic exaggerations and lies with the only intentions being to create agitation and as much money as possible for the authors or producers. A product of your imagination? If not, please explain your detailed insights to life behind bars in Thailand. No, a product of my personal experience as both a visitor and an inmate, I've been in there, that is the only insight that is needed...and I'm not selling a story. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 13 hours ago, traveller101 said: 23 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said: In Thailand she got three meals a day and a tuck shop, also. Speaking from personal experience? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 13 hours ago, hotelbri said: 15 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said: What business is it of yours what I was charged with that put me in Klong Prem? That is my personal business and how would your knowing the charge put you in a position to establish the veracity of my posts? You did not "catch me out", at all, there was nothing to "catch me out" about and, yes, I do still live in Thailand. I think you were a lawyer, visiting inmates . Correct?. Incorrect. I was a prison visitor (not a lawyer), more relevantly and more recently, I was an inmate. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 13 hours ago, traveller101 said: 23 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said: If you're going on "a book and videos", you know nothing about the conditions of Klong Prem, the facility that also houses the women's prison. Without exception, all of them comprise over-dramatic exaggerations and lies with the only intentions being to create agitation and as much money as possible for the authors or producers. And you of course know that from extensive personal experience Indeed, I do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 14 hours ago, frank83628 said: 23 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said: In Thailand she got three meals a day and a tuck shop, also. is that correct?i don't have any experience of thai prisons, i do of UK ones Yes, three meals are provided each day, 7am-ish, 11.15-ish and 2pm-ish and there is a shop from which inmates can buy essentials like soap, toothpaste, food items, canned goods, fruit, coffee, juice, bread, marg, jam, pot/cup meals and hot water and such like. There is also a more comprehensive shop on the visitors side, items from which can be sent in to prisoners bought by their visitors. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letseng Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 On 5/16/2024 at 9:14 AM, IvorBiggun2 said: So what did she use????? Would be interestung to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letseng Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said: Yes, three meals are provided each day, 7am-ish, 11.15-ish and 2pm-ish and there is a shop from which inmates can buy essentials like soap, toothpaste, food items, canned goods, fruit, coffee, juice, bread, marg, jam, pot/cup meals and hot water and such like. There is also a more comprehensive shop on the visitors side, items from which can be sent in to prisoners bought by their visitors. Provided you have money & visitors. But there are times when due to abuse of the system they stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 4 minutes ago, Letseng said: 1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said: there is a shop from which inmates can buy essentials like soap, toothpaste, food items, canned goods, fruit, coffee, juice, bread, marg, jam, pot/cup meals and hot water and such like. There is also a more comprehensive shop on the visitors side, items from which can be sent in to prisoners bought by their visitors. Expand Provided you have money & visitors. Provided they have credit in their prison accounts (no prisoners have cash), and/or visitors. Those on the outside can (could) send food in without actually visiting...pizzas were frequently sent in when I was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank83628 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 (edited) 2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said: Yes, three meals are provided each day, 7am-ish, 11.15-ish and 2pm-ish and there is a shop from which inmates can buy essentials like soap, toothpaste, food items, canned goods, fruit, coffee, juice, bread, marg, jam, pot/cup meals and hot water and such like. There is also a more comprehensive shop on the visitors side, items from which can be sent in to prisoners bought by their visitors. so where do you store stuff you buy or is it day by day? if going by the bed situation you're all on the floor without any space, os is that being slightly exaggerated? Edited May 17 by frank83628 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunpin Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 On 5/16/2024 at 12:55 PM, prakhonchai nick said: My son was locked up in the Immigration jail for several days whilst his deportation was arranged. I understand all foreign "criminals" who are locked up are subsequently deported. He was caught working without a permit...Hardly a criminal act! "He was caught working without a permit." Everything that is NOT allowed by law is a criminal act! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Rice Balls Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 so just like any other jail u get a crappy scratchy wool blanket and no pillow....some dude will get a hard mat and sleep on floor due to overcrowding rarely hot water unless it winter and same goes for heat..no ac in summer....food sucks and is bargained over and become currency as in ramen noodles and honeybuns....you have to stand up and be willing to fight over alpha males etc... yep use the open toilets as well...what is the other option? none....much like the army...sleep when they tell u and eat what they give u as u wake up at 5am or go hungry....boiled eggs are good as u can keep them for later......so now shes hocking books and maybe try for her 15 mins on locked up abroad......dont do the crime if u cant do the time..i learned the hard way reminds me of the lady prison in CM....seems they could have made a killing doing prison tours...easy money imo.....anyhoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 Boo hoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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