Can Israel Defeat Hamas Without a Ground Invasion in Rafah? An Expert's Perspective

[Neeranam]

On 5/29/2024 at 2:31 AM, Hawaiian said:

As you describe, Iran is the key player in all of this.  Without their sponsorship of Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis and other terrorist organizations the situation in the Middle East, and Africa for that matter, would be less chaotic.  Since the mullahs took over Iran has been stoking the fires of religious fanaticism fueling instability in this part of the world.  Nothing will change until the theocracy in Tehran is removed.  The big question is how to accomplish this without major military intervention.

Totally disagree, maybe because I'm neither American nor believe their propaganda. 

You don't mention the USA or Israel as being key players in the ME crises.

What about UAE and Saudi?

A sudden change in the regime in Iran would have serious consequences in the area. Iran have not started any war, think about that at the same time think about the wars the USA has started there, and the reasons why. 

Do you understand the principle of self-determination? 

Military interventions cause human, financial costs and exacerbate rather than resolve conflicts - look at what the US backed Israel 'attack' on Israel is doing. 

 

[transam]

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

Totally disagree, maybe because I'm neither American nor believe their propaganda. 

You don't mention the USA or Israel as being key players in the ME crises.

What about UAE and Saudi?

A sudden change in the regime in Iran would have serious consequences in the area. Iran have not started any war, think about that at the same time think about the wars the USA has started there, and the reasons why. 

Do you understand the principle of self-determination? 

Military interventions cause human, financial costs and exacerbate rather than resolve conflicts - look at what the US backed Israel 'attack' on Israel is doing. 

 

You do not have a very good memory on folk who start wars and how the USA made a major efforts to stop them.....🙄

What country are you from........?

 

What do you mean by this......

"Look at what the U.S. backed Israel 'attack' on Israel is doing".....?  🤔

[Njoku]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

and how many wars around the world have they caused in the past couple hundred years? Yeah, such heinous trouble makers. Did the IDF write that for you?

Palestinians as you know them are 70 ys old approx, never have been a nation, if you know history the bulk came in during the British mandate to make money from around the area, its well documented if you care to go look, there is a reason why the Egyptians did not allow them to go into the Sini when the war to root out Hamas started there's a reason why they are kept in camps in Lebanon, there is a reason why no one will take them as refugees. There is a reason why Europe dont want anymore Arabs. That is the proof....

 

You read with you're eyes wide shut sir, plenty of other war causes for you to jump on...are you speaking up over what's going on in the neighbouring country here or in Africa even Haiti?

[Robert Paulson]

Imagine for a second you’re kicked out of your house and an occupying government is forcing you to go to certain areas of the country. And then the same government hauls off and bombs the area they told you to go to. And they do this multiple times, not like some one off, unexplained thing. 
 

The other thing I love about this topic is people argued for about a week or two that “no! Israel did not bomb that hospital it was Hamas!” Does everyone remember? When the conflict started. The original hospital bombing.
 

Now… we sorta know who did that bombing, right? Because if you still think Hamas did it you got some serious problems. They just bomb anything Willy nilly, the more women and children the better. They even do their best to corral them and starve them and all the rest. 

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, Robert Paulson said:

Imagine for a second you’re kicked out of your house and an occupying government is forcing you to go to certain areas of the country. And then the same government hauls off and bombs the area they told you to go to. And they do this multiple times, not like some one off, unexplained thing. 
 

The other thing I love about this topic is people argued for about a week or two that “no! Israel did not bomb that hospital it was Hamas!” Does everyone remember? When the conflict started. The original hospital bombing.
 

Now… we sorta know who did that bombing, right? Because if you still think Hamas did it you got some serious problems. They just bomb anything Willy nilly, the more women and children the better. They even do their best to corral them and starve them and all the rest. 

The other thing I love about this topic is people argued for about a week or two that “no! Israel did not bomb that hospital it was Hamas!” Does everyone remember? When the conflict started. The original hospital bombing.
 

 

That's not in this topic although yes the Al-Ahli  hospital car park strike was Hamas themselves with a rocket that misfired. Between 10 and 20 percent of Hamas's rockets fail and fall back into Gaza.

[Nick Carter icp]

5 minutes ago, Robert Paulson said:

Imagine for a second you’re kicked out of your house and an occupying government is forcing you to go to certain areas of the country. And then the same government hauls off and bombs the area they told you to go to. And they do this multiple times, not like some one off, unexplained thing. 
 

The other thing I love about this topic is people argued for about a week or two that “no! Israel did not bomb that hospital it was Hamas!” Does everyone remember? When the conflict started. The original hospital bombing.
 

Now… we sorta know who did that bombing, right? Because if you still think Hamas did it you got some serious problems. They just bomb anything Willy nilly, the more women and children the better. They even do their best to corral them and starve them and all the rest. 

 

  If has been proven that it was a misfiring Hamas rocket that hit the hospital .

   Your reasoning is illogical and makes no sense , saying that because Israel accidently bombed a building that means ALL buildings have been bombed by Israel and there's been no misfiring Hamas rockets .

   Hamas accidently bombed that hospital with a misfiring rocket , Case closed

 

[Hawaiian]

  "Now... we sorta know who did that bombing, right?"  Either we know or we don't know.  Which is it?

[thaibeachlovers]

20 hours ago, Njoku said:

Palestinians as you know them are 70 ys old approx, never have been a nation, if you know history the bulk came in during the British mandate to make money from around the area, its well documented if you care to go look, there is a reason why the Egyptians did not allow them to go into the Sini when the war to root out Hamas started there's a reason why they are kept in camps in Lebanon, there is a reason why no one will take them as refugees. There is a reason why Europe dont want anymore Arabs. That is the proof....

 

You read with you're eyes wide shut sir, plenty of other war causes for you to jump on...are you speaking up over what's going on in the neighbouring country here or in Africa even Haiti?

Plenty of deflection in your post.

The area was known as Syria Palaestina in Roman times- so much for 70 years.

Egypt likely won't allow them in because they know that israel will never allow them to return.

The Arabs ( more likely Muslims ) in Europe isn't about Palestinians.         

       Probably more Turks in Europe than Arabs.

I don't know where "here" is to answer that.

Haiti is an internal conflict. The US isn't bombing it to bits.

 

Do you have anything to do with the topic to post?