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42 minutes ago, transam said:

An excellent interview with a historian, who thinks exactly the same as me...

The 'Red' members on here should not watch it, too complicated for you.....🥴

 

 

 

Naah another  one who likes the sound of her own voice and Pax Americana. Next !

 

For Applebaum, the main significance of Iraq seems to be that it drew the US and Polish governments closer together. Whatever impact it had on Iraqis themselves, on traumatized veterans returning home, and on an entire generation’s willingness to trust the very Atlanticist project to which she remains committed escapes her notice. So does the propagandistic disinformation campaign that the Bush and Blair governments deployed to whip up support for the war—essentially a conspiracy theory, and one significantly advanced by Applebaum’s current social circle.

 

Both in Twilight of Democracy and in her recent interviews and tweets, Applebaum has insisted that the authoritarian temptation exists on both the left and the right, even if right-wing authoritarianism is the more immediate threat. That’s true to an extent, and it’s understandable that someone who has studied Stalin’s reign of terror in such detail would say so. But it’s also a dodge. Today’s rising leftists in the United States and the United Kingdom, by and large, aren’t calling for a return to Stalinism but for a social democratic model that would seek to repair the enormous human damage done by decades of the untrammeled neoliberalism that Applebaum and her friends have consistently championed.

 

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/anne-applebaum-twilight-democracy/

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59 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

You are off in la-la land. The US has no military need to install missiles in Ukraine.

 

Ukraine already has its own long range missiles. Prepare for your Russian friends to suffer.

You mean Ukraine has long range missiles provided by some NATO countries.

 

Question is, do they have the men to operate it?

 


Since some of you guys are so strongly devoted to Ukraine’s freedom, have you thought about volunteering your services, or maybe those of your offsprings? You know, put your money where your mouth is? As for me, I had previously mentioned that I don’t really care who wins or loses. In any case, at my age, I doubt any army would want me lol.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, tgw said:

 

Since you are so strongly devoted to helping Ruzzia kill and oppress other countries, have you thought about volunteering your services, or maybe those of your offsprings? You know, put your money where your mouth is?

It looks more and more like Ruzzia is going to lose in this war, and Ruzzia needs your help.

Like I said, I don’t really care who wins or loses. I’m not so fanatical as you, putting up the Ukrainian colours as your avatar or whatever it’s called. 
 

Whatever will you do if your beloved Ukraine defies your hopes and loses instead? To be on the safe side, you should go to the frontline to help as well. According to dandyman, it’s only Russians that are dying so you should be safe.

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2 hours ago, transam said:

Putin doing the rounds with his Commy friends, and some folk on here don't think he's a Commy................🤣

It's been pointed out by better people than me that he's a kleptocrat not a communist but still you persist.Words matter. I may or may nor be a communist  and I'm certainly a pacifist socialist and Putin and his mates are not in my club.

 

 

 

 

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On 6/19/2024 at 2:35 PM, Danderman123 said:

Wow, you seem unaware of reality.

 

The pocket where the soldiers are trapped is behind Ukrainian lines.

You may be referring to the David Axe's report for Forbes who is a notorious propagandist. However brave Ukrainian media is prepared to report the truth - possibly becuase they care about their people rather than spinning news for clicks.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/06/18/in-russia-vehicles-are-expensive-but-soldiers-are-cheap-and-thats-why-the-battle-for-vovchansk-is-becoming-an-infantry-massacre/

 

There are 3 British clowns who report nonsense as truth , David Axe, Hamish de Bretton Gordon and Colonel Richard Kemp. You can safely put them in the bin marked "Scott Ritter".

 

Dozens of Russian troops have been cut off at a building site in the city of Vovchansk, Kharkiv Oblast, not hundreds as previously reported by Forbes, Yurii Povkh, spokesman for the Kharkiv Operational Strategic Group (OSG), has said.

Source: Povkh in a comment to Ukrainska Pravda

Quote: "I would like to point out that, first of all, the Russians do not operate with the numbers of personnel mentioned in this report. The figure of 400 people [reported by Forbes] is impossible to confirm because it does not exist."

 

 

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/06/19/7461556/

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14 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

You mean Ukraine has long range missiles provided by some NATO countries.

 

Question is, do they have the men to operate it?

 

 

No, I mean there are Ukrainian long range missiles.

 

I have seen them.

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17 hours ago, tgw said:

 

Those countries aiding and abetting a criminal sought by international arrest warrant ...

Vietnam is playing with fire... in one hand they want US companies to invest, on the other hand they receive a mad man dictator, they can't have it both ways. They are trying to replace China as an industrial hub and open arms received Putin

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4 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

Vietnam is playing with fire... in one hand they want US companies to invest, on the other hand they receive a mad man dictator, they can't have it both ways. They are trying to replace China as an industrial hub and open arms received Putin

It is even more complicated,Vietnam needs US support to stop China from invading their

seas.

I don't think they will give putin any kind of real support.

Vietnam is really US orientated right now.

 

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