Latest developments and discussion of recent events in the Ukraine War

[Mavideol]

On 8/8/2024 at 11:46 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

 

You seem to have it backward. Certainly deluded if you think Ukraine can bring about the demise of Russia, IMO.

 

If you are correct and it is not about the demise of Russia ( hahahaha ) the loss of life in Ukraine is easily achieved by halting the supply of weapons to Ukraine followed by a negotiated end to the war.

 

 

wonder what would happen if China, NK, Iran stopped supplying weapons to Russia, that would be interesting to see Putin's reaction

[Mavideol]

‘Furious battles are underway’: Kursk residents call on Putin for help after Ukrainian incursion

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-says-ukrainian-incursion-territory-115244720.html

 

[Mavideol]

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Edited August 9 by Mavideol

[Bkk Brian]

Kursk update from the WSJ Chief Foreign-Affairs Correspondent

 

Day four of Ukraine’s “special military operation” in Russia. What we know amid the fog of war:

Ukrainian forces continue to hold the city of Sudhza and operate in a large swath of Kursk region.

A Russian reinforcement column was destroyed on the highway to Rylsk (video shot by a local resident)

Overnight, Ukrainian drones struck the major Russian Air Force base in Lipetsk.

Footage shows major ammunition explosions going off all night. Russian military channels say no aircraft were damaged. Satellite pictures will show.

 

https://x.com/yarotrof/status/1821801784970555757

 

I like this one he mentioned.

 

"A Russian reinforcement column was destroyed on the highway to Rylsk"

 

 

Edited August 9 by Bkk Brian

[Seppius]

1 hour ago, jas007 said:

 The “invasion” was a publicity stunt.  Ukraine picked a poorly defended area of Russia.  The primary purpose was to make an incursion into Russia.  An opportunity to make some videos for publication.  
 

As for Putin seeming “helpless”?  Do you not realize that Russia could reduce the entire country of Ukraine to rubble?  But that’s not the goal.  

 

"By the end of 2023, Russian forces launched about 7,400 missiles and 3,900 Shahed drone strikes against Ukraine according to Ukrainian military officials"

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_strikes_against_Ukrainian_infrastructure_(2022–present)

 

Seems like they are having a good try to turn Ukraine to rubble

[tgw]

https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/83a2f24901c941d581c0c523ecd2619b

 

this is yesterday's map.

I guess Ukraine's objectives are Rylsk, Lgov, Kurchatov and NPP, and the area where the bigger roads intersect just east from Kurchatov and south of Kursk.

 

I hope they made good progress since then.

Yesterday's map shows the Ukrainian spearhead just 10-15 miles away from what I would guess is their primary objective. Maybe it's been taken by now.

 

The area is very defensible in the long term, attacks from the north are unlikely due to unfavourable terrain, which only leaves the eastern flank to defend.

Taking the NPP would be good for Ukraine, and it would also for the first time put some pressure on a Russian city.

They should cut off Kursk from power and instead redirect it to Ukraine. Might take some time though, lines are probabably either inexistent or damaged.

 

Just out of spite and for comical effect, I would definitely suggest conduction a referendum there for the establishment of an "Autonomous Kursk Republic".

137% of Kursk Oblast's population will vote in favour.

 

 

Edited August 9 by tgw

[freeworld]

The regions of Ukraine bordering Russia are urgently looking for blood donors. Locals report that a large number of wounded Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers are being pulled to the rear.

[Jingthing]

3 hours ago, jas007 said:

 The “invasion” was a publicity stunt.  Ukraine picked a poorly defended area of Russia.  The primary purpose was to make an incursion into Russia.  An opportunity to make some videos for publication.  
 

As for Putin seeming “helpless”?  Do you not realize that Russia could reduce the entire country of Ukraine to rubble?  But that’s not the goal.  

Of course. 

We know.

The Russians invaded to "de-Nazify" and also to instill a love of Russian novels. 

[Bkk Brian]

Ukraine's Special Military Operation just gets better.....

 

Ukraine launches ‘massive’ drone strike on Russia’s Lipetsk region, as cross-border attack rages on

Russia’s Lipetsk region has been struck by a “massive” Ukrainian drone attack, according to its governor, as Ukraine’s cross-border assault into Russia shows no sign of easing.

At least nine people were wounded in the attack, which damaged energy infrastructure and prompted the temporary evacuation of residents in several areas, Lipetsk governor Igor Artamonov wrote Friday on Telegram.

The reported strike comes after Russia accused Ukrainian troops of crossing the border into its Kursk region on Wednesday, which marked the first incursion of its kind from Ukraine and put pressure on Moscow in an area largely untroubled by more than two years of war.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/09/europe/russia-lipetsk-kursk-ukraine-zelensky-intl/index.html

[tgw]

55 minutes ago, freeworld said:

The regions of Ukraine bordering Russia are urgently looking for blood donors. Locals report that a large number of wounded Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers are being pulled to the rear.

 

as expected, sadly.

 

Ruzzia's army :

- before 2022, second best army in the word

- end of 2022, second best army in Ukraine

- now: second best army in Russia

[Seppius]

1 hour ago, freeworld said:

The regions of Ukraine bordering Russia are urgently looking for blood donors. Locals report that a large number of wounded Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers are being pulled to the rear.

Link please?

[tgw]

5 minutes ago, Seppius said:

Link please?

 

doesn't even need a link as it's non-news.

combats happening, there are wounded, blood is needed. nothing unexpected.

[FinChin67]

3 hours ago, Seppius said:

 

"By the end of 2023, Russian forces launched about 7,400 missiles and 3,900 Shahed drone strikes against Ukraine according to Ukrainian military officials"

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_strikes_against_Ukrainian_infrastructure_(2022–present)

 

Seems like they are having a good try to turn Ukraine to rubble

Imagine the money that you can make from rebuilding that…. 

[tgw]

Just now, FinChin67 said:

Imagine the money that you can make from rebuilding that…. 

 

and that's exactly why Ukraine's debt will be a non-issue after the war.

[FinChin67]

4 minutes ago, tgw said:

 

and that's exactly why Ukraine's debt will be a non-issue after the war.

https://qz.com/blackrock-jpmorgan-private-investors-ukraine-fund-1851334929
 

Not difficult to connect the dots that wars are very profitable. To some.

[tgw]

2 minutes ago, FinChin67 said:

https://qz.com/blackrock-jpmorgan-private-investors-ukraine-fund-1851334929
 

Not difficult to connect the dots that wars are very profitable. To some.

 

yes - although the reconstruction will be profitable for many more than just investors and company owners, whole sectors of industry will benefit as well as their workers.

We are talking big industries here, construction, energy, civil engineering, etc. Heavy stuff.

[ExpatOilWorker]

2 hours ago, freeworld said:

The regions of Ukraine bordering Russia are urgently looking for blood donors. Locals report that a large number of wounded Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers are being pulled to the rear.

Source?

[ballpoint]

5 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Kursk update from the WSJ Chief Foreign-Affairs Correspondent

 

Day four of Ukraine’s “special military operation” in Russia. What we know amid the fog of war:

Ukrainian forces continue to hold the city of Sudhza and operate in a large swath of Kursk region.

A Russian reinforcement column was destroyed on the highway to Rylsk (video shot by a local resident)

Overnight, Ukrainian drones struck the major Russian Air Force base in Lipetsk.

Footage shows major ammunition explosions going off all night. Russian military channels say no aircraft were damaged. Satellite pictures will show.

 

https://x.com/yarotrof/status/1821801784970555757

 

I like this one he mentioned.

 

"A Russian reinforcement column was destroyed on the highway to Rylsk"

 

 

 

The aftermath...

 

 

[stevenl]

The difference between Russia and Ukraine. Ukraine attacks a Russian military airbase, Russia attacks on the same day a shopping centre.

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, stevenl said:

The difference between Russia and Ukraine. Ukraine attacks a Russian military airbase, Russia attacks on the same day a shopping centre.

Hmmm, Russia is a lot like Palestine in that way...

[kwonitoy]

 

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[tgw]

a more recent map

 

https://x.com/JayinKyiv/status/1821852269660316127

 

Edited August 9 by tgw

[thaibeachlovers]

8 hours ago, stevenl said:

The difference between Russia and Ukraine. Ukraine attacks a Russian military airbase, Russia attacks on the same day a shopping centre.

it's called psychological warfare- kill civilians to demoralise the enemy

Happened a lot during WW2.

The jury is out on whether it works though.

[stevenl]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

it's called psychological warfare- kill civilians to demoralise the enemy

Happened a lot during WW2.

The jury is out on whether it works though.

You don't have to explain.

It shows the difference, Ukraine attacking military targets, Russia attacking civilians.

[Jingthing]

According to the don't poke the bear brigade crossing any of Putin's red lines would immediately result in him launching nukes. Turns out his response instead is to give each displaced Russian resident about 100 dollars which is almost as insulting as nothing.

[Gweiloman]

20 hours ago, Mavideol said:

wonder what would happen if China, NK, Iran stopped supplying weapons to Russia, that would be interesting to see Putin's reaction

I haven’t seen or read anywhere that China is supplying weapons to Russia. Unless consider a shovel or a washing machine a weapon.

 

However, if the west stopped supplying weapons to Ukraine, the conflict will end immediately. As I posted 2 1/2 yrs ago. When Ukraine still had all its lands. And hundreds of thousands more citizens.

[Bkk Brian]

23 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

I haven’t seen or read anywhere that China is supplying weapons to Russia. Unless consider a shovel or a washing machine a weapon.

 

However, if the west stopped supplying weapons to Ukraine, the conflict will end immediately. As I posted 2 1/2 yrs ago. When Ukraine still had all its lands. And hundreds of thousands more citizens.

That's far from the truth. China supplies essential dual purpose items to Russia and its Military Complex. Critical components that are essential to make more munitions, tanks, armoured vehicles, missiles and even drones and satellite tech. 70% of the machine tools and 90% of the microelectronics Russia imports come from China.

 

Oh and you are also wrong today as you were 2 1/2 years ago. Ukraine would not have all its lands, they would be Russian.

[transam]

2 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

I haven’t seen or read anywhere that China is supplying weapons to Russia. Unless consider a shovel or a washing machine a weapon.

 

However, if the west stopped supplying weapons to Ukraine, the conflict will end immediately. As I posted 2 1/2 yrs ago. When Ukraine still had all its lands. And hundreds of thousands more citizens.

Ooooh, the Welsh Red bloke is back giving advice, whom, in 1940 would have been locked up or shot in his homeland for saying the same....

You should be ashamed of yourself, go join Putin's lines, he needs YOU......😒