3 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

wouldn't have started at all if the US hadn't been interfering in Ukraine/Russia relations in the fist place.

Making excuses for an illegal invasion and mass war crimes carried out, oh dear

11 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Making excuses for an illegal invasion and mass war crimes carried out, oh dear

shouldn't really try an preach war crimes if you are either British or Amrerican, oh dear!

 

no excuses, just stating facts, the US interference in Ukraine/Russian relations escalated this. well, that and the slaughter of ethnic Russians in Donbass region.

 

what are the war crime charges, kidnapping children and talking them to Russian territory? why not just kill them as per spidermikes post, he's an 'evil dictator' after all 

 

 

1 minute ago, frank83628 said:

shouldn't really try an preach war crimes if you are either British or Amrerican, oh dear!

 

no excuses, just stating facts, the US interference in Ukraine/Russian relations escalated this. well, that and the slaughter of ethnic Russians in Donbass region 

This is not about war crimes in other countries. its about Bucha and others carried out by Russians in Ukraine those are the facts and not your off topic deflection.

 

The Bucha massacre (Ukrainian: Бучанська різанина, romanized: Buchanska rizanyna; Russian: Резня в Буче, romanized: Reznya v Buche) was the mass murder of Ukrainian civilians and prisoners of war[12] by the Russian Armed Forces during the fight for and occupation of the city of Bucha as part of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

21 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

This is not about war crimes in other countries. its about Bucha and others carried out by Russians in Ukraine those are the facts and not your off topic deflection.

 

The Bucha massacre (Ukrainian: Бучанська різанина, romanized: Buchanska rizanyna; Russian: Резня в Буче, romanized: Reznya v Buche) was the mass murder of Ukrainian civilians and prisoners of war[12] by the Russian Armed Forces during the fight for and occupation of the city of Bucha as part of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

so says Ukriane/US/Uk propaganda machine,, Wiki being one of those! RT links are not allowed here due to AN following the western narrative, so how are you supposed to hear both side and make an informed decision?

6 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

so says Ukriane/US/Uk propaganda machine,, Wiki being one of those! RT links are not allowed here due to AN following the western narrative, so how are you supposed to hear both side and make an informed decision?

Wiki uses credible sources, in this case its the  UN High Commissioner for Human Rights who documented the unlawful killings.

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

i haven't watched RT for a while, but in general i question the fact that the US and western media always tells us the these 'evil dictators'  are always bombing hospitals, schools killing women and children. 

 

 

 

 

So you have nothin g to contradict, not even RT, just 'naw, I don't believ it'.

4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

And of course, there is the utter failure of their leader. This is a clear case of psychological projection: Putin dreamt and failed to create a dollar-free world and establish Russia as an “energy superpower.” He allowed corruption to metastasize through the state’s fabric, undermining its security capabilities. With its mass emigration, skyrocketing divorce rate, and low fertility, Russia, more than the West, demonstrates an immense collapse of family and social values, and near total moral bankruptcy. 

 

 

and yet they are winning in Ukraine.

2 hours ago, frank83628 said:

hahahahahaha, you know how.... a western media channel told you? a us politician? so who are these woman and children?

don't you find it a coincidence that these so called 'dictators' are always killing women & children and bombing schools and hospitals... have you ever heard of manufacturing consent ?
have you ever watched RT, or some independent channels to hear the other side of things? 

 

 

Seems some people are well indoctrinated. I'm lucky I grew up in a country that didn't have much, if any, American and European propaganda forced on kids.

 

Russia/ Soviet Union was no more real to us than Santa Land. Cold war- something in a cold country.

6 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

and yet they are winning in Ukraine.

So Ukraine did not kick them out of Kiev in days and did not take back 50% of the territory Russia gained since it invaded?

Links and quotes to Paywall articles removed along with a reply.

36 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Wiki uses credible sources, in this case its the  UN High Commissioner for Human Rights who documented the unlawful killings.

anyone can edit wiki. 

i cannot post an RT link, but you are free to look at their website, find an article related to it and see what they have to say about it

1 minute ago, frank83628 said:

anyone can edit wiki. 

i cannot post an RT link, but you are free to look at their website, find an article related to it and see what they have to say about it

You obviously did not follow the link to the UN article that is contained in wiki............ 

 

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2022/12/un-report-details-summary-executions-civilians-russian-troops-northern

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

You obviously did not follow the link to the UN article that is contained in wiki............ 

 

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2022/12/un-report-details-summary-executions-civilians-russian-troops-northern

just read it, so, did Matilda Bogner  see this for herself or was she told about it?

 

so now, you go and search RT and see what they have to say on the matter because they cannot be posted here

Just now, frank83628 said:

just read it, so, did Matilda Bogner  see this for herself or was she told about it?

 

so now, you go and search RT and see what they have to say on the matter because they cannot be posted here

Why? You don't think this has not been discussed 100's of times before on these topics with video's and horrific geo located images. Why would I want to read lies on RT? 

 

Back on topic with Russia's latest instead of your deflection

 

https://x.com/ReutersPR/status/1827799312946065760

 

Ukrainian forces advance further into Russia as it warns Belarus to withdraw troops from its border

https://au.yahoo.com/news/ukrainian-forces-advance-further-russia-194218920.html

 

R I P  mate

Russia-Ukraine war latest: Ex-British soldier killed as Kyiv asks Belarus to pull back from border

 

https://au.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-russia-war-live-joint-033914158.html

Gains in Russian territory shape Ukraine independence celebrations

https://au.yahoo.com/news/gains-russian-territory-shape-ukraine-233234575.html

 

Ukraine's military says it used US glide bombs for strikes in Russia's Kursk region

https://au.yahoo.com/news/ukraines-military-says-used-us-212741823.html

 

really who cares, would anybody expected this moron to blame anybody else, sure he will protect his best customer Russia

North Korea Is Blaming 1 Country For The 'Nuclear Threat' – And It's Not Russia

 

https://au.yahoo.com/news/north-korea-blaming-1-country-113957163.html

Putin Ally Claims Any Truce With Ukraine 'Is Certain Death For Our Children'

https://au.yahoo.com/news/putin-ally-claims-truce-ukraine-110423560.html

 

How the covert Ukrainian resistance movement is operating behind Russian lines

https://au.yahoo.com/news/covert-ukrainian-resistance-movement-operating-140900209.html

 

maybe he didn't hear well as Ukrainians keep moving in deeper

Putin hears reports from generals about ways to push Ukrainian troops out of Kursk

https://au.yahoo.com/news/putin-hears-reports-generals-ways-005858018.html

 

don't trust this orange guy, he changes sides as fast as a blink of an eye and keep in mind one of his BF's his Vlad, the other Kim of NK that tells you everything about the person

 

Volodymyr Zelenskyy says Donald Trump has signalled support for 'free Ukraine' - as Ukrainian troops claim more ground in Kursk

https://au.yahoo.com/news/volodymyr-zelenskyy-says-donald-trump-190400732.html

 

 

Volodymyr Zelenskyy says more territory seized in ongoing Kursk incursion

https://au.yahoo.com/news/volodymyr-zelenskyy-says-more-territory-224332483.html

 

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Seems some people are well indoctrinated. I'm lucky I grew up in a country that didn't have much, if any, American and European propaganda forced on kids.

 

Russia/ Soviet Union was no more real to us than Santa Land. Cold war- something in a cold country.

"American and European propaganda forced on kids."

Complete B.S., as usual! 😀

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

so says Ukriane/US/Uk propaganda machine,, Wiki being one of those! RT links are not allowed here due to AN following the western narrative, so how are you supposed to hear both side and make an informed decision?

False equivalence. Western media are not controlled by governments and are not propaganda instruments like RT.

45 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Why? You don't think this has not been discussed 100's of times before on these topics with video's and horrific geo located images. Why would I want to read lies on RT? 

 

Back on topic with Russia's latest instead of your deflection

 

https://x.com/ReutersPR/status/1827799312946065760

 

well there you go, why would you want to hear the other side, when you can just accept everything you are told.

Despite Ukraine’s Kursk invasion gamble, Russia is closing in on a big victory The key city of Pokrovsk is being evacuated as heavily outnumbered Ukrainian soldiers find their comrades’ success across the border is doing nothing to relieve the strain - THE TIMES

 

https://archive.is/HFURU#selection-2223.0-2241.171

 

 “But Russia keeps going,” said Matthew Savill of the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI), a military and security think tank in London. “The Russian mindset seems to be, ‘We took tens of millions of casualties in the Second World War and we can keep going’.”

He sees Ukraine’s invasion of Russia as “either an act of genius or an act of desperation”, adding: “Rather than lose ground slowly in the east with nothing to show for it, Ukraine needed to change the narrative — to say ‘yes, we’ve lost ground in the east, but we can still manoeuvre and make things difficult for the enemy’.”

The final verdict, Savill predicted, would depend on the “cost Ukraine has to pay” for its lightning cross-border assault. If the operation forces Russia to “thin out” its front line and “creates a sea change in international support, with renewed equipment for Ukraine and a change in the caveats about its use of western long-range weapons in Russia, that would also be a win”, he said.

 

 

The neoliberal battle for Ukraine’s reconstruction - The country’s postwar future is almost as riven as the war itself. NEW STATESMAN By Lily Lynch
Civilians & politicians

 

https://www.newstatesman.com/the-weekend-essay/2024/08/the-neoliberal-battle-for-ukraines-reconstruction

 

 Ukrainian officials have also indicated that they might be more discerning about foreign investors. Last year, the finance minister Sergii Marchenko gave a speech at the London Ukraine Recovery Conference that reflected this shift. “Traditionally, we were open to any form of money,” he said. “Now we are not. If you want to invest in Ukraine, you must accept the priorities of Ukraine.” The nationalisation of strategic assets throughout the war has also prompted a backlash among some supporters in Washington.

Among Ukraine’s most daunting tasks will be convincing the 6.5 million citizens who have fled the war to return and rebuild the country. The government is in an unenviable position: to maintain interest from foreign investors, who are typically drawn to the region for its cheap labour force, it will also need to ensure the repatriation of refugees, who won’t be keen to return if only low-paying jobs await them.

Russian courts be like Thai courts - the outcome is never in doubt. Apparently the most popular search engine in Russia is Yandex which was sold cheap to a Russian consortium. As Lenin wrote, “When it comes time to hang the capitalists, they will vie with each other for the rope contract.”

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68213191

 

Putin seizes $100m from Google to fund Russia’s war machine  - Bailiffs funnel tech giant’s cash to pay for war propaganda

 

https://archive.is/SqVCQ#selection-2403.4-2407.66