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1 hour ago, Berkshire said:

VP Harris would be a much, MUCH better President than Trump.  So what are you b*tching about?

Y'all might want to ask the American people about that...

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15 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

That's what required of a President who made promise and keep promise. A concept hard for you to understand when you surrender your morality to orange jesus. 

 

Tulsi Gabbard LOL. Since when had she debated. Please tell. She has repeatedly refused to debate and has not particpated in any primary debates since 2012 election.

 

By the way, VP Harris has championed Bidenomics and has supported small businesses. She is not only a busines leader, she was a civic leader and matriarch of the community. 

 

 

 

Tulsi debated in the 2019 Democratic primaries, where she make Kamala look foolish.  Look it up!

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15 minutes ago, Tug said:

Far and away better than trump hands down and I’m American unlike you

Rubbish trump was an absolute disaster on foreign policy he set us back years destabilized the world order squandered decades of sanctions in regards to N Korea he is far and away a greater asset to our enemies than my country.did you hear the latest he’s on record now wanting to regulate the lady’s birth control yup that’s right now there’s a domestic issue for ya!as far as the economy goes we have seen the results of it much like his business…….failed 

Trump dropped the sanctions on North Korea? First I have heard of it.

 

As for peace, I have two words for you- Abraham Accords. So much for destabalizing. 

 

He was right in castigating NATO for failing to meet their obligations. Or do you think the US needs to make up for Europe's failures and laziness?

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On 5/22/2024 at 7:12 AM, Walker88 said:

LOL!

 

Here's some facts:

 

Even before Covid, his 'economic performance' (per GDP change) was in the bottom 30% of all Quarters since the end of WWII.

 

Hardly 'breaking records'.

 

He inherited 4.8% unemployment and a growing economy; he left 6.8% UE, a Recession---and he achieved that disaster by increasing total National Debt by 41% over the first 44 Presidents. Just like his businesses, he was a failure economically. At least in his businesses he had inherited so much money, got so much in allowance from daddy since he was 3, and had his daddy co-sign all his loans, that he could created the appearance of being a success. His leaked tax returns tell an entirely different story.

 

He imposed sanctions on Chinese imports, claiming "China will pay". No, the US Consumer paid. Because China retaliated by changing sourcing on agricultural products to South American nations, he had to hand out $28 billion in relief to US farmers. That's called "Socialism".

 

As for 'wars', he did not end US presence in the Middle East, and the Afghanistan War lasted his entire term. Shortly before he lost the 2020 election, he ordered the release of 5000 Taliban jihadis in Afghanistan. They resumed their takeover of the country and some of those former prisoners now rule the country. He abrogated the JCPOA (only because Obama had achieved it), which immediately put Iran back in the nuke game. Oh, and he ordered the assassination of Qasem Solemani, an Iranian general. Hardly a peacenik was 45.

 

The clown who now whines daily about "UNFAIR" and WEAPONIZATION of justice regularly led chants of "Lock Her Up". Guilty until proven innocent seems to have not been part of his thinking.

 

Biden started no wars, although goobers and the Cult like to attribute Israel-Gaza and Ukraine to Biden, despite the fact Netanyahu tacitly approved Hamas funding (because like Netanyahu, Hamas is against a Two State Solution), and the invasion of Ukraine is purely a result of 45's friend Putin. Biden started no wars and finally accepted reality and got the US out of Afghanistan.

 

Oh, the who is the first President since Herbert Hoover to leave office with fewer Americans employed than when he took office? 45. If you want to blame it on Covid, remind me who said "It's 15 people now, but soon will be 1". Oh, and despite his claim of "like, a really stable genius", it turns out injecting Lysol and sticking a UV light where the sun doesn't shine is not a cure for Covid.

 

Recently, there has been 27 straight months of UE under 4%. That is the first time since the 1960s. Growth as measured by GDP has been the best under Biden since the 1990s under Clinton. The inflation caused by 45 running up $8,400,000,000,000 in new debt, or $25,000 for every man, woman and child in the US, had to be handled by jacking up interest rates. Just 45's debt added another $trillion to the National Debt since 2020, because of the 380 pip raise in rates.

 

And of the few policies 45 actually has should he win again is that he will set interest rate policy, not the Fed, and he will do new tax cuts (as if 'trickle down' actually works).

 

If a 2nd term happens, be ready for a total economic collapse. The guy who declared 6 bankruptcies will do the same to the US. He has floated the idea of refusing to pay foreign holders of USTs. Since the US still needs hundreds of $billions to fund its deficit, reneging on debt service will have foreign money run from USTs, which either sends rates soaring, or else results in a dollar collapse. Tax cuts now will just worsen the deficit situation.

 

Who will be hurt the most by his plans? The very people who support him, which is to say the people who are being obviated by lack of marketable skills, poor education, technological advancement, and the coming AI layoffs. Serves them right.

 

I expect that in a 2nd term for 45, the US will see 20% UE, a collapse of the dollar, Stagflation, and quite possibly a kind of soft Secession of States like California (a State which the US needs far more than CA needs the US), the States of New England, and other States that are net contributors to the Federal budget and who fund the parasitic Red States.

 

I will enjoy some schadenfreude as I watch the Cult suffer. They will get what they wished for in their abject ignorance and easy gullibility....the dumb people's idea of a smart guy, and unsuccessful people's idea of a business genius.

 

There will be some sadness, however, that a country long on the path to greatness was eventually destroyed by a willfully ignorant, vindictive, totally self-serving, pathologically lying, corrupt, conman. It will have proven H. L. Mencken right:

 

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

 

Same old boring cut/paste carp.

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7 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Tulsi debated in the 2019 Democratic primaries, where she make Kamala look foolish.  Look it up!

My bad. There are lot to unpack on the accuracy of Gabbard's statements. 

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1 hour ago, Hanaguma said:

Y'all might want to ask the American people about that...

2024 is Biden Trump silly,  most likely won't change.

Harris is my first choice before she dropped out.

She has very few attackes by MAGA. Not had the level of demeaning Clinton knows.

Republicans did a great job taking her down!

Harris  would certainly be a world better than Trump. Also she would make toast of Trump.

I agree with your VP choice for Trump. I believe he could have won if he received any support outside of MAGA.

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5 hours ago, Tug said:

Yea it’s been horrible those terrible terrible figures heck who wants to have the strongest economy on the planet or help seniors get the medicine they need …or who would want to help keep kids out of poverty who needs infrastructure meh…or computer chips heck who needs the tools to move towards renewable energy meh….much much more important to snivel about not having enough money for vacation……obviously sarcasm alert

That's right. Let's keep the workers busy so we can give free stuff to the old people and illegals.

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6 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Why would he? Do you make copies of everything on here? It's up to the person that said something happened to prove it, not to those that read the claim to do so.

I only make copies of stuff that I find useful to me , and there is nothing on this forum worth copying, for me.

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2 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Trump dropped the sanctions on North Korea? First I have heard of it.

 

As for peace, I have two words for you- Abraham Accords. So much for destabalizing. 

 

He was right in castigating NATO for failing to meet their obligations. Or do you think the US needs to make up for Europe's failures and laziness?

If you only bother to find and not jump clueless to defend Trump. 
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/trump-s-reversal-of-north-korea-sanctions-sends-a-dangerous-signal/#:~:text=Announcing his decision to reverse,withdrawal of those additional Sanctions!”

 

Abraham Accord I agree. It was Trump indecision on the status of Palestine in the Accord that add to the instability. 

 

US is treaty bound to defend its allies. You are trivializing the seriousness of NATO to defend their members just because of Trump’s idiosyncrasy. 

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55 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

I suspect he will win in November, unless his poor lifestyle catches up to him by then. He certainly looks the worse for wear right now, and kicking the bucket any day is a distinct possibility. I would say 'heaven forbid', but since I don't hold superstitions like deities, I will just let the random Universe do its thing.

 

He has enough sheeple in his cult to take the Electoral College, though he is likely to lose the popular vote for the 3rd time. His sheeple live vicariously through him, as they are largely unsuccessful losers.

 

It doesn't matter that he tried to overthrow the 2020 election, engaged in insurrection, stole classified documents, and was intimately involved in the fake elector scheme. It doesn't matter that before Covid his economic record was mediocre at best, and abysmal after Covid took hold. It doesn't matter that he's a whiny crybaby.

 

He can call Neo Nazis who march and chant "Jews will not replace us" fine people. He can post about a Unified Reich. He can admit he will be a dictator. SO long as his campaign slogan is "I am your retribution", his sheeple feel like they can 'get back' at successful people who have made them feel bad for being such losers.

 

While the guy has some some absolutely absurd things in his life, and been a business failure (save for his inheritance, allowance, daddy co-signer of all his loans, and finally his silly Game Show), these are some things that I know will lead to economic collapse:

 

---He said he will do another tax cut (which NEVER results in trickle down, just trickle on) and which will additionally decimate the budget, like his last one

 

---He has said HE, not the Fed, will set interest rate policy. Expect that to be ZIRP again, which will cause inflation and hammer the dollar

 

---He said on CNBC a few years ago that he would consider defaulting on foreign-owned USTs. Since foreigners and foreign govts still fund a good portion of the US deficit, such talk will send them running and drive up rates (or collapse the dollar if he tries to set i policy)

 

His sheeple will get what they want, and also get what they deserve. I expect the US will see 20% unemployment (exacerbated by AI), Stagflation (negative GDP and maybe 15-25%+ inflation), and a US dollar total collapse. Of course he will blame Obama or Clinton or Mother Teresa or anyone other than the guy solely responsible:  him.

 

I will experience schadenfreude watching his sheeple suffer. They will deserve whatever pain life throws at them. They were stupid enough to think a conman clown actually both knew anything and cared they exist (other than to get their vote or sell them some Golden Sneakers).

 

Those of you with brains (sorry, trumpers) have about 6 months to immunize yourself against the coming disaster. Once you do, get your popcorn and watch the cult flail. Darwin will be busy churning out awards.

 

 

The art of composting by W88 - so much to share!

 

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Someone else who believes trump needs assistance...

 

Nigel Farage  will not stand in UK elections in order to support trump
 

Nigel Farage will not stand for Reform U.K. in Britain’s snap general election — because he’s more focused on Donald Trump. Writing on X, the leading Brexiteer — whose Reform Party wants to take votes from the Tories on the right — said he will “do my bit to help in the campaign, but it is not the right time for me to go any further than that.”

 

https://www.politico.eu/article/nigel-farage-rishi-sunak-uk-election-donald-trump-priority/

 

 

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On 5/21/2024 at 6:12 PM, Walker88 said:

LOL!

 

Here's some facts:

 

Even before Covid, his 'economic performance' (per GDP change) was in the bottom 30% of all Quarters since the end of WWII.

 

Hardly 'breaking records'.

 

He inherited 4.8% unemployment and a growing economy; he left 6.8% UE, a Recession---and he achieved that disaster by increasing total National Debt by 41% over the first 44 Presidents. Just like his businesses, he was a failure economically. At least in his businesses he had inherited so much money, got so much in allowance from daddy since he was 3, and had his daddy co-sign all his loans, that he could created the appearance of being a success. His leaked tax returns tell an entirely different story.

 

He imposed sanctions on Chinese imports, claiming "China will pay". No, the US Consumer paid. Because China retaliated by changing sourcing on agricultural products to South American nations, he had to hand out $28 billion in relief to US farmers. That's called "Socialism".

 

As for 'wars', he did not end US presence in the Middle East, and the Afghanistan War lasted his entire term. Shortly before he lost the 2020 election, he ordered the release of 5000 Taliban jihadis in Afghanistan. They resumed their takeover of the country and some of those former prisoners now rule the country. He abrogated the JCPOA (only because Obama had achieved it), which immediately put Iran back in the nuke game. Oh, and he ordered the assassination of Qasem Solemani, an Iranian general. Hardly a peacenik was 45.

 

The clown who now whines daily about "UNFAIR" and WEAPONIZATION of justice regularly led chants of "Lock Her Up". Guilty until proven innocent seems to have not been part of his thinking.

 

Biden started no wars, although goobers and the Cult like to attribute Israel-Gaza and Ukraine to Biden, despite the fact Netanyahu tacitly approved Hamas funding (because like Netanyahu, Hamas is against a Two State Solution), and the invasion of Ukraine is purely a result of 45's friend Putin. Biden started no wars and finally accepted reality and got the US out of Afghanistan.

 

Oh, the who is the first President since Herbert Hoover to leave office with fewer Americans employed than when he took office? 45. If you want to blame it on Covid, remind me who said "It's 15 people now, but soon will be 1". Oh, and despite his claim of "like, a really stable genius", it turns out injecting Lysol and sticking a UV light where the sun doesn't shine is not a cure for Covid.

 

Recently, there has been 27 straight months of UE under 4%. That is the first time since the 1960s. Growth as measured by GDP has been the best under Biden since the 1990s under Clinton. The inflation caused by 45 running up $8,400,000,000,000 in new debt, or $25,000 for every man, woman and child in the US, had to be handled by jacking up interest rates. Just 45's debt added another $trillion to the National Debt since 2020, because of the 380 pip raise in rates.

 

And of the few policies 45 actually has should he win again is that he will set interest rate policy, not the Fed, and he will do new tax cuts (as if 'trickle down' actually works).

 

If a 2nd term happens, be ready for a total economic collapse. The guy who declared 6 bankruptcies will do the same to the US. He has floated the idea of refusing to pay foreign holders of USTs. Since the US still needs hundreds of $billions to fund its deficit, reneging on debt service will have foreign money run from USTs, which either sends rates soaring, or else results in a dollar collapse. Tax cuts now will just worsen the deficit situation.

 

Who will be hurt the most by his plans? The very people who support him, which is to say the people who are being obviated by lack of marketable skills, poor education, technological advancement, and the coming AI layoffs. Serves them right.

 

I expect that in a 2nd term for 45, the US will see 20% UE, a collapse of the dollar, Stagflation, and quite possibly a kind of soft Secession of States like California (a State which the US needs far more than CA needs the US), the States of New England, and other States that are net contributors to the Federal budget and who fund the parasitic Red States.

 

I will enjoy some schadenfreude as I watch the Cult suffer. They will get what they wished for in their abject ignorance and easy gullibility....the dumb people's idea of a smart guy, and unsuccessful people's idea of a business genius.

 

There will be some sadness, however, that a country long on the path to greatness was eventually destroyed by a willfully ignorant, vindictive, totally self-serving, pathologically lying, corrupt, conman. It will have proven H. L. Mencken right:

 

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

Didn't anyone ever teach you about the elevator speech in your professional life...20 seconds max, dude.

 

 

 

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10 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

I guess his reasons are she is black American, from South Asia and a woman.  VP Harris is a trusted partner to the President and worked together well. She fought well for the freedom of women to make decisions about their own bodies and the freedom to live safe from gun violence. She is a strong advocate for clean air and water and spoke out for democracry and freedom to vote. Trump is a intellectual midget compare to VP Harris. 

The Howard U Ho is half indian and prosecuted Blacks for lesser crimes to get her job in SF in the 90s, she was the under the table type, just ask willie Brown or his staff  

 

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1 hour ago, simple1 said:

Someone else who believes trump needs assistance...

 

Nigel Farage  will not stand in UK elections in order to support trump
 

Nigel Farage will not stand for Reform U.K. in Britain’s snap general election — because he’s more focused on Donald Trump. Writing on X, the leading Brexiteer — whose Reform Party wants to take votes from the Tories on the right — said he will “do my bit to help in the campaign, but it is not the right time for me to go any further than that.”

 

https://www.politico.eu/article/nigel-farage-rishi-sunak-uk-election-donald-trump-priority/

 

 

 

Loada cobras.

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