Migrant Workers Occupy Korat Home of Thai-Australian Couple

[ChicagoExpat]

Hey, free mushroom farm!

[Bday Prang]

10 minutes ago, Wanderer555 said:

According to Thai property law a foreign national can own a house but cannot own the land under the house. 

The land is often leased or held under a contract such as a superficies, with the agreement registered at the land department with name of foreigner on the Chanote and no sale or loans against the land permitted without the foreigners consent. 
 

This is more common than some realize and is best organized at the start of building the house, with the foreigner being named on the building permit, retaining all financial records and similar. 
Thai courts will also recognize the ownership claim in the event of a dispute. 
cheers

none of which is relevant to this story 

[Bday Prang]

2 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

I hope the Ozzi will provide appropriate accommodation for the migrants🙏

Are you actually serious or just trolling?

I hope they find out who the illegal squatters  were and arrange for them to get a bloody good hiding, ideally involving broken legs,   Alternative accommodation can then  be provided at a local jail or the immigration detention centre afterwards

[elektrified]

3 hours ago, Dogmatix said:

 

Somporn co-owns the house with her 74-year-old Australian husband.

 

The article doesn't explain how this is possible.  He is unlikely to be a naturalised Thai citizen, since they spend most of their time in Australia.  Therefore it is more likely that she owns the home outright and he owns nothing.

Have you seen the Chanote? Then why comment?

[RT555]

The wife is on it.......look at that dumpster of HER RETIREMENT ABODE........why start to build something and then leave 1/2 done.

[CLUBBER]

5 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

So nothing serious happen. No vandalism. Just a bit business and maintaining the house to protect it from burglary. I hope the Ozzi will provide appropriate accommodation for the migrants🙏

I’m sure you’re joking 🤡

[steven100]

Never buy a stand alone house anywhere in Thailand.   Only buy in a gated community and make sure it's a decent gated community and not a load of Thais all related living there or you'll have the same issue.

 

The downside to living here,  you can't have a nice couple of private acres with fruit trees and a garden etc ...

or if you do you can never go away on a trip.  

 

 

 

 

Edited May 23 by steven100

[Don Kaeo]

8 hours ago, hotchilli said:

Lucky it's here in Thailand... some countries would have given the squatters the right to stay there and charged her.

There was a case in Brisbane a few years ago of a guy subletting his rental to a family of bogans that changed locks and claimed squatters rights. Absolutely trashed the place as well, coppers could do little, squatters got all kinds of help from free legal aid and support.

Guy who owned the house it cost him three years to finally winkle them out, all the legal bills and he basically had a ruined house needing to be pulled down… 

[Ctkong]

8 hours ago, RayWright said:

Or install a covert CCTV, if you have WiFi then £20:00 or change of 1,000THB. Else SIM CCTV cameras are £100:00ish.

Going back to the OP, " ...suggested a recent departure...", sounds like a bit of a tip-off.

Nowadays even if camera cctv has no power supply or internet wifi, you can use a SIM card solar powered camera to monitor remotely your remote farm or house. 

[Ctkong]

3 minutes ago, Don Kaeo said:

There was a case in Brisbane a few years ago of a guy subletting his rental to a family of bogans that changed locks and claimed squatters rights. Absolutely trashed the place as well, coppers could do little, squatters got all kinds of help from free legal aid and support.

Guy who owned the house it cost him three years to finally winkle them out, all the legal bills and he basically had a ruined house needing to be pulled down… 

In some countries, even Thailand, this problem would need the input of the local mafia or triads who would intervene where the police would not or could not. Buy the squatters some tables in restaurant to show good faith and the squatters would then exit the house without losing face. Asian style problem solving. 

[SAFETY FIRST]

17 hours ago, webfact said:

Unfortunately, she was driven out of her own property.

Time to phone a friend. 

 

Plenty of Thai guys in Korat with a gun. 

 

Spend a few thousand baht for pest control, filthy animals invading properties. Point a gun to their head will see swift response. 

 

Edited May 23 by SAFETY FIRST

[thesetat]

15 hours ago, The Theory said:

I believe those immigrants were not there just because they decided so. There is someone (not an immigrant) behind this. Even police were not interested in the case 🤔. You go figure. 
People need to be more smarter and have some cameras around their property and pay someone to look over their property. 

I think if i came home to find my house was broken into and people living there. I would surely fly off the handle and physically remove them. Well within my rights as they broke the laws and were in my home illegally. Clearly, this man was fortunate to use social media to finally get police co-operation... Otherwise this story may have taken a nasty turn. i have a house in the mountains in the south. I am most sure if i came home from travels to find squatters have broken into my home to live there that they would be out on their arse that same day.. and maybe in the hospital instead. 

[steven100]

1 hour ago, thesetat said:

I think if i came home to find my house was broken into and people living there. I would surely fly off the handle and physically remove them. Well within my rights as they broke the laws and were in my home illegally. Clearly, this man was fortunate to use social media to finally get police co-operation... Otherwise this story may have taken a nasty turn. i have a house in the mountains in the south. I am most sure if i came home from travels to find squatters have broken into my home to live there that they would be out on their arse that same day.. and maybe in the hospital instead. 

the problem can be that those squatters in your house are smart and ready for you with a shotgun ... I wouldn't put it past them to be waiting.  

[Bday Prang]

10 hours ago, Ctkong said:

Nowadays even if camera cctv has no power supply or internet wifi, you can use a SIM card solar powered camera to monitor remotely your remote farm or house. 

For all the good ot would do you,  Imagine,   as a foreigner, reporting squatters in your house, to the Thai police,  from thousands of miles away, What do you think would happen, ?  If you expect them to mobilise a swat team  or anybody else for that matter , you are going to end up very disappointed.   Are you relatively new to Thailand by any chance?

 

[Bday Prang]

13 hours ago, steven100 said:

Never buy a stand alone house anywhere in Thailand.   Only buy in a gated community and make sure it's a decent gated community and not a load of Thais all related living there or you'll have the same issue.

 

The downside to living here,  you can't have a nice couple of private acres with fruit trees and a garden etc ...

or if you do you can never go away on a trip.  

 

 

 

 

Well I wouldn't live in a "gated community" if you paid me,   I also have fruit trees and a garden, I frequently make trips away,  and have never had any issues.  Kind of rubbishes your theory 

 

Edited May 24 by Bday Prang

[Bday Prang]

11 hours ago, Ctkong said:

In some countries, even Thailand, this problem would need the input of the local mafia or triads who would intervene where the police would not or could not. Buy the squatters some tables in restaurant to show good faith and the squatters would then exit the house without losing face. Asian style problem solving. 

Why stop there, give them a big Wai and some hard cash and a case of Lao Khao,  

[steven100]

Just now, Bday Prang said:

Well I wouldn't live in a "gated community" if you paid me,   I also have fruit trees and a garden, I frequently make trips away,  and have never had any issues.  Kind of rubbishes your theory 

 

maybe you have someone who looks after your place while your gone,  but you just babbled on and didn't explain what security measures you employ.

 

And again I'll repeat for you ...   I wouldn't live in a free standing house out in the country as it'll get burgled for sure. 

so lets leave it at that.   

enough said. 

[Bday Prang]

1 minute ago, steven100 said:

 

maybe you have someone who looks after your place while your gone,  but you just babbled on and didn't explain what security measures you employ.

 

And again I'll repeat for you ...   I wouldn't live in a free standing house out in the country as it'll get burgled for sure. 

so lets leave it at that.   

enough said. 

Without doubt, once they get to know you there will be problems,  enough said, let's leave it at that 

  I may be wrong but i suspect this could become a "popular post "

[steven100]

1 hour ago, Bday Prang said:

For all the good ot would do you,  Imagine,   as a foreigner, reporting squatters in your house, to the Thai police,  from thousands of miles away, What do you think would happen, ?  If you expect them to mobilise a swat team  or anybody else for that matter , you are going to end up very disappointed.   Are you relatively new to Thailand by any chance?

 

 

agree ...  they'll go to the shop and get some donuts for morning coffee

[newbee2022]

14 hours ago, steven100 said:

Never buy a stand alone house anywhere in Thailand.   Only buy in a gated community and make sure it's a decent gated community and not a load of Thais all related living there or you'll have the same issue.

 

The downside to living here,  you can't have a nice couple of private acres with fruit trees and a garden etc ...

or if you do you can never go away on a trip.  

 

 

 

 

No, that I can't agree. It's just a matter of organisation. 

You can have security guards checking your house twice daily and in addition surveillance cameras, so that you got control wherever you are.

Works for us many years.🙏

[steven100]

5 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

No, that I can't agree. It's just a matter of organisation. 

You can have security guards checking your house twice daily and in addition surveillance cameras, so that you got control wherever you are.

Works for us many years.🙏

well,  at least you explained what measures you take for the protection and security. 

 

but to be honest,   I would sooner live in a gated secure community than have that hassle.  A CCTV is not much use when your 1000 miles away and the security guard is at his aunties funeral on the booze.     just saying ....   but each to his own ...   thanks

 

 

Edited May 24 by steven100

[TroubleandGrumpy]

22 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

 

Not really. The security guard vanished the same day my friend's house was broken into and stripped. The police refused to investigate unless he paid them 100,000 baht. That's when he decided to leave this s**thole for good and return to Australia, and his Thai wife was only too happy to get out with him. 

Sad story.  But obviously the house was not in a 'decent' gated community with real security - perhaps I should have added that.

[TroubleandGrumpy]

22 hours ago, Dogmatix said:

 

Absolutely.  I paid double the price from my house in a gated community where some senior cops reside than it would have cost in the same area just outside the gates.  Never regretted it for a minute.  Friends who bought or built stand alone houses or even houses in low quality gated communities that hire dodgy guards have nearly all reported numerous burglaries.  One friend was burgled in a stand alone house in Bangkok by a very small person who climbed in through the small ensuite bathroom window and nicked his wife's handbag from the bedroom and departed without waking them up.  He also has a stand alone house on Samui that has been ransacked so many times that he gave up having a TV set or anything worth taking there.

Ditto - we have lived in two gated communities built and run by a well know Thai developer (no names), and recently bought a house in a new estate of theirs. Meanwhile, in this cheaper place we are renting in a very basic 'gated community' has had several break ins - luckily not us (yet?).

I heard through wife from other Thais that it is often teenagers - they can squeeze in though open bathroom windows etc. If someone is home they will grab what they can quietly, if no one is home they open the door and let in their mates.  Place next door has a dog - and he barks when someone in the soi pharts - best protection is a dog that barks IMO. 

[TroubleandGrumpy]

20 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

If you are away for extended periods why even buy a house at all ?

Because you have a house to come back to and somewhere to keep all your things and somewhere to live when you decide to settle down and stop travelling. Single blokes with all their gear that can fit in a bag or two and living in a 30m2 room just dont have the need. That was me when a lot younger - now we take aseveral days to pack bags for a trip away somewhere. 

[Bangkok Barry]

1 hour ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Sad story.  But obviously the house was not in a 'decent' gated community with real security - perhaps I should have added that.

 

That is your opinion, without knowing anything about the location. What do you regard as a 'decent' gated community? And how would you guard against a rogue employee, which might exist in any business in Thailand. Including banks, I might add.

[steven100]

Let's just say then ....   that living in a decent gated community lower's the risk considerable to being burgled & robbed. 

[Bday Prang]

3 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Because you have a house to come back to and somewhere to keep all your things and somewhere to live when you decide to settle down and stop travelling. Single blokes with all their gear that can fit in a bag or two and living in a 30m2 room just dont have the need. That was me when a lot younger - now we take aseveral days to pack bags for a trip away somewhere. 

several days !   

[TroubleandGrumpy]

22 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

 

That is your opinion, without knowing anything about the location. What do you regard as a 'decent' gated community? And how would you guard against a rogue employee, which might exist in any business in Thailand. Including banks, I might add.

Only one guard on the gate - that is how mate.  And yes maybe 'decent' was not the right word to use from your word library - but from where I come from it means 'very very good'.   We often say 'that was half decent' - meaning good.  So what I meant was a decent gated community with 2+ guards on the gate - guards that patrol the community - no one enters without permission - residents have a auto pass card - and non-residents have to sign in and get stamped out - etc etc etc.  

[TroubleandGrumpy]

19 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

several days !   

Yep - a lot goes into planning and packing for a 1 month trip to Japan or whatever, when you have a wife, and when you know you will need all those 'little things' they dont have in most places - including in remote Thailand.   Not a full-time job - but we start packing 2 days before - having learned the hard way that doing it the morning of the day you are leaving leads to mistakes - including weighing each bag to make sure not over 20kgs. But if it is you alone and you only need 1 bag for everything, then no worries - you can start when you call the cab/bike 🙂

[Bday Prang]

1 hour ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Yep - a lot goes into planning and packing for a 1 month trip to Japan or whatever, when you have a wife, and when you know you will need all those 'little things' they dont have in most places - including in remote Thailand.   Not a full-time job - but we start packing 2 days before - having learned the hard way that doing it the morning of the day you are leaving leads to mistakes - including weighing each bag to make sure not over 20kgs. But if it is you alone and you only need 1 bag for everything, then no worries - you can start when you call the cab/bike 🙂

Sounds like you need to sort her out, Me and my mrs can complete any packing in well less than  an hour,  Try asking yourselves if the "little things" that the rest of the world can do without are really necessary