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A sensitive case in Pattaya has garnered attention as a local apartment owner seeks assistance from Thai authorities to help a Russian man and his two daughters return home. The family, who fled Russia amidst ongoing conflict with Ukraine, overstayed their visas and faced financial difficulties.

 

The apartment owner contacted the Chon Buri Provincial Immigration Office, concerned about the wellbeing of the three Russian residents. He pointed out that they could not afford to return to Russia on their own. He called for swift action to repatriate the family, highlighting concerns over the children’s welfare.

 

Over the past year, the apartment owner provided the family with food and financial support, noting their isolation and limited opportunities to go outside. He praised the father’s devotion to his children but worried about the emotional toll and strain leading possibly to self-harm.

 

 

 

The Russian man, tearfully explaining to authorities, said he came to Thailand two years ago to avoid conscription into the Russian-Ukrainian conflict, fearing his children would be left alone if he were drafted. Although he sought a safe return for his daughters, financial constraints hindered their journey back.

 

In an emotional plea, he mentioned he was ready to face legal consequences for overstaying his visa, as long as his children could return to Russia safely.

 

Weerachai Tinkamut, an officer from Chon Buri Provincial Immigration Office, supported the family by giving them 2,000 baht in cash. The two girls are now under the care of the Chon Buri Provincial Shelter for Children and Family. Meanwhile, their father was taken to Muang Pattaya Police Station for legal proceedings.

 

After the legal formalities, both the father and children are expected to be deported back to Russia, concluding a poignant chapter in their lives far from home.

 

-- 2024-05-29

 

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Close the borders for all Russians!

send them back, and him to the front line.

or they can revolt and end this mess!

it’s THEIR government that THEY elected and are responsible for!

If this is successful perhaps we could find a way to get rid of the rest of them.

1 hour ago, Northstar1 said:

Close the borders for all Russians!

send them back, and him to the front line.

or they can revolt and end this mess!

it’s THEIR government that THEY elected and are responsible for!

But they don't actually have real elections there.

 

This case is sad.

 

There are so many Russians that are between a rock and a hard place.

 

But ultimately the most sympathy should be towards Ukrainians. 

Home and straight to the front. Those who fled are guaranteed a Ukrainian holiday and to bask in the Sunflowers.

Not really related to this guy's case, and Thailand isn't interested in Russian escapees for residency, but there is a bigger global issue here. Estimates have at least a million Russians who fled mobilization, many younger men, and a high percentage the best and the brightest of Russia. Yet western countries make it very very hard for such high value potential immigrants to move there permanently or in many cases even visit as a tourist now. If they can stay out of Russia permanently that's a huge loss for Russia but they need a permanent place to resettle. Thailand isn't it, but shouldn't the E.U., U.S., Canada, and Australia grab them up (after careful screening)? This is an issue the youtuber NFKRZ has highlighted repeatedly. Punish the Putin regime of Russia sure thing, but why persecute Russian people who want to get out of there?  He took refuge in Georgia (which now looks to becoming another slave state of Russia) but finally got a digital nomad visa to Portugal, but only because he's a famous youtuber. He's hopefully on a path towards Portuguese citizenship (EU). It shouldn't be that hard for Russians that will benefit their new countries.

 

Thailand welcomed them with open arms due to the lack of tourism post Covid..

Phipat only saw them as tourists, not long stay persons dodging the graft.

Now I'm sure many have financial woes and are overstaying but keeping a low profile.

Others with money will be doing what Russians do best... run the show.

15 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

Thailand welcomed them with open arms due to the lack of tourism post Covid..

Phipat only saw them as tourists, not long stay persons dodging the graft.

Now I'm sure many have financial woes and are overstaying but keeping a low profile.

Others with money will be doing what Russians do best... run the show.

Too true..... Thailand welcomed them with red carpets and oompah bands at the airport..... in stark contrast to how they were received at the Ukrainian border. 

2 hours ago, Northstar1 said:

Close the borders for all Russians!

send them back, and him to the front line.

or they can revolt and end this mess!

it’s THEIR government that THEY elected and are responsible for!

 

Close the borders for all Ukrainians!

send them back, and then to the front line.

or they can revolt and end this mess!

it’s THEIR government that THEY CAN'T elect and are STILL responsible for!

3 minutes ago, AreYouGerman said:

 

Close the borders for all Ukrainians!

send them back, and then to the front line.

or they can revolt and end this mess!

it’s THEIR government that THEY CAN'T elect and are STILL responsible for!

Putin thanks you.

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Putin thanks you.

 

Z

2 minutes ago, AreYouGerman said:

 

Z

I know. I know.

Z the Russian Putin fascist version of the Nazi swastika.

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

I know. I know.

Z the Russian Putin fascist version of the Nazi swastika.

 

Will the Thai landlord be prosecuted for aiding & abetting a known overstayer? I take my hat off to Him for trying to help, especially the children, but wonder how the immigration will see it?

Just now, AhFarangJa said:

but wonder how the immigration will see it?

Seemingly with an unsympathetic ear..... so  many in dire positions end up in a detention centre.....

A Russian sob story don't believe a word of it 🤔

There are thousands of Russians here now doing what ever they want to do, they do not abide by the laws here and just don't care so let those Russians take care of their own comrades and send all of them back behind the iron curtin sorry but I served my country and have no time for the draft dodging cowards that come from Russia. 

2 minutes ago, Ironmike said:

There are thousands of Russians here now doing what ever they want to do, they do not abide by the laws here and just don't care so let those Russians take care of their own comrades and send all of them back behind the iron curtin sorry but I served my country and have no time for the draft dodging cowards that come from Russia. 

 

If that's the case, feel free to call the police if you see any lawbreaking. Thailand is a pretty serious country and deals with foreign lawbreakers swiftly.

There is enough Russians here that could make a donation, lots of Russian FB pages, 

39 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Seemingly with an unsympathetic ear..... so  many in dire positions end up in a detention centre.....

Erm...an immigration officer giving the family 2k baht is hardly "unsympathetic".

3 hours ago, Northstar1 said:

Close the borders for all Russians!

send them back, and him to the front line.

or they can revolt and end this mess!

it’s THEIR government that THEY elected and are responsible for!

 

1 hour ago, Kiwiken said:

Home and straight to the front. Those who fled are guaranteed a Ukrainian holiday and to bask in the Sunflowers.

That is a bit unfair on the two kids who have no say in the issue.

I think that they are too young to fight.

No way do I condone what this man has done but he probably did it all for the girls.

Now the girls have no one.

Just more collateral damage. Thanks Putin.

33 minutes ago, Ironmike said:

There are thousands of Russians here now doing what ever they want to do, they do not abide by the laws here and just don't care so let those Russians take care of their own comrades and send all of them back behind the iron curtin sorry but I served my country and have no time for the draft dodging cowards that come from Russia. 

I find the Europeans the worst, especially dutch and noggis..lauding it around town with their fat over inflated sagging guts hanging over their Speedos...always drunk and stinking of stale booze with a fighting attitude....rather have the Ruskies anyday

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Not really related to this guy's case, and Thailand isn't interested in Russian escapees for residency, but there is a bigger global issue here. Estimates have at least a million Russians who fled mobilization, many younger men, and a high percentage the best and the brightest of Russia. Yet western countries make it very very hard for such high value potential immigrants to move there permanently or in many cases even visit as a tourist now. If they can stay out of Russia permanently that's a huge loss for Russia but they need a permanent place to resettle. Thailand isn't it, but shouldn't the E.U., U.S., Canada, and Australia grab them up (after careful screening)? This is an issue the youtuber NFKRZ has highlighted repeatedly. Punish the Putin regime of Russia sure thing, but why persecute Russian people who want to get out of there?  He took refuge in Georgia (which now looks to becoming another slave state of Russia) but finally got a digital nomad visa to Portugal, but only because he's a famous youtuber. He's hopefully on a path towards Portuguese citizenship (EU). It shouldn't be that hard for Russians that will benefit their new countries.

 

I agree, I can't understand why Russians should carry the mark of Cain especially those who wish to avoid participating in an illegal war. As Jingthing said, many of these people are intelligent and highly skilled, they could be a great benefit to the West if given the chance. I think many fall foul of the cold war indoctrination and fail to see the dirt in their own back yard, America has never been shy of war mongering if it's to their own advantage nor of influencing other governments against the will of its people. Britain is a country that has, in its long history, invaded more countries than any other state and sucked the wealth out of many third world countries and yet we all have the mark of purity and innocence.

What is happening in Ukraine is a tragedy for both the Ukrainian people and the Russians, the boys/men dying there are somebody's son, father, or husband whether Ukrainian or Russian and no sane person wants to be there. 

3 hours ago, Northstar1 said:

it’s THEIR government that THEY elected and are responsible for!

 

You haven't got a clue, have you. The Russian government elections have even less credibility than the ones in Thailand.

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

But they don't actually have real elections there.

 

This case is sad.

 

There are so many Russians that are between a rock and a hard place.

 

But ultimately the most sympathy should be towards Ukrainians. 

Couldn't agree more, it was a big mistake to give them a 3 month visa in the first place by this PM is a dork, his reasoning was because it was recipical, and yet Thai can get a 3month visa for Ukraine. 

57 minutes ago, Ironmike said:

There are thousands of Russians here now doing what ever they want to do, they do not abide by the laws here and just don't care

 

I thought at first you were writing about Thais. Your comment fits many of them perfectly.

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

1 hour ago, AhFarangJa said:

but wonder how the immigration will see it?

Seemingly with an unsympathetic ear..... so  many in dire positions end up in a detention centre.....

 

I'm guessing you didn't read to the end.
Weerachai Tinkamut, an officer from Chon Buri Provincial Immigration Office, supported the family by giving them 2,000 baht in cash. 

That's a  good sign of sympathetic treatment, surely?

The facts are:

1) if you don’t want to join the war, you just not going there. Participating is fully voluntary, he could normally live in Russia taking care of his daughters.

2) When money started to run out, why he just didn’t went back to home country to work and earn? There is a shortage of manpower there, salaries increasing because of that, he could provide his daughters for sure. Instead, he just preferred to stay in Thailand and doing nothing?

3 hours ago, Northstar1 said:

Close the borders for all Russians!

send them back, and him to the front line.

or they can revolt and end this mess!

it’s THEIR government that THEY elected and are responsible for!

 

The dude doesn't want to kill other people and you want to increase the manpower for the Russians.... the logic on this board of Russophobes is astounding, you understand revolting against the government would also put his children at risk of being orphans?

 

 

 

 

 

1 minute ago, VBer said:

The facts are:

1) if you don’t want to join the war, you just not going there. Participating is fully voluntary, he could normally live in Russia taking care of his daughters.

2) When money started to run out, why he just didn’t went back to home country to work and earn? There is a shortage of manpower there, salaries increasing because of that, he could provide his daughters for sure. Instead, he just preferred to stay in Thailand and doing nothing?

 

Conscription does take place as it always has but none are on the frontlines, it's logistic, inventory, admin type work etc.