5 year multiple entry DTV visa (Destination Thailand) from 2024-xx-xx

[Pattaya57]

4 minutes ago, Tim K said:

Embassy in Laos added DTV

https://vientiane.thaiembassy.org/en/page/destination-thailand-visa-dtv

Pay in THB cash only 10000

 

Well that clears up any doubt. 180 days per entry, not 180 days per year

 

Edited July 15 by Pattaya57

[Rob Browder]

53 minutes ago, Tim K said:

Embassy in Laos added DTV

https://vientiane.thaiembassy.org/en/page/destination-thailand-visa-dtv

Pay in THB cash only 10000

I do not see "Must be a citizen or legal-resident of Laos to apply" - as with the METV?   That would be helpful to many.  

Packing oneself in an aluminum-tube, to be shipped half way across the world, in order to "submit paperwork" which could be sent by Fed-Ex or digital transfer, is the dumbest thing ever - even more so with the eVisa system in-place.

[Tim K]

Overnight train service from Bangkok to Vientiane will begin services on 19th of July and may be an excellent option for a visa run

Edited July 15 by Tim K

[Caldera]

9 minutes ago, Rob Browder said:

I do not see "Must be a citizen or legal-resident of Laos to apply" - as with the METV?   That would be helpful to many.  

 

You're right. Taken at face value, you could e.g. enroll into a Muay Thai class in Thailand, get the required paperwork from the school and go to a nearby Thai embassy or consulate such as Vientiane to apply for the DTV in the "Thai soft power" category without having to return to your country of residence. Super convenient for many if that turns out to be the case.

 

But I'm wondering how much scrutiny, if any, foreign bank statements will attract. There's no easy way for the RTE Vientiane to verify them. Not a big deal when someone has to show having 20,000 baht for a tourist visa, but I'd imagine they might care a bit more if a DTV applicant actually has those 500,000 baht that are required. 

[tarheeldan]

2 minutes ago, Caldera said:

 

You're right. Taken at face value, you could e.g. enroll into a Muay Thai class in Thailand, get the required paperwork from the school and go to a nearby Thai embassy or consulate such as Vientiane to apply for the DTV in the "Thai soft power" category without having to return to your country of residence. Super convenient for many if that turns out to be the case.

 

But I'm wondering how much scrutiny, if any, foreign bank statements will attract. There's no easy way for the RTE Vientiane to verify them. Not a big deal when someone has to show having 20,000 baht for a tourist visa, but I'd imagine they might care a bit more if a DTV applicant actually has those 500,000 baht that are required. 

You can't apply for the DTV visa while in Thailand? I thought that was the idea

[Rob Browder]

Just now, Caldera said:

 

You're right. Taken at face value, you could e.g. enroll into a Muay Thai class in Thailand, get the required paperwork from the school and go to a nearby Thai embassy or consulate such as Vientiane to apply for the DTV in the "Thai soft power" category without having to return to your country of residence. Super convenient for many if that turns out to be the case.

 

But I'm wondering how much scrutiny, if any, foreign bank statements will attract. There's no easy way for the RTE Vientiane to verify them. Not a big deal when someone has to show having 20,000 baht for a tourist visa, but I'd imagine they might care a bit more if a DTV applicant actually has those 500,000 baht that are required. 

True - but many could also use a Thai bank-statement, which I assume they will accept

 

The consulate might limit non-Laos-resident applications to only those having certified Thai statements, for that reason - similar to the current-case in Savannakhet for 1-year-ME Non-O Marriage-based applications - only Thai accounts accepted. 

[Tim K]

Apparently I can apply via e-Visa but only if I fly to Kazakhstan or Tajikistan or Mongolia or Hong Kong or Macau but not from Thailand or Russia/Malaysia/Vietnam/Cambodia/Laos.

What's the difference?? it's e-visa

Did show thai bank statement for NON-O Thai spouse visa in Penang, accepted.

Edited July 15 by Tim K

[Rob Browder]

4 minutes ago, tarheeldan said:

You can't apply for the DTV visa while in Thailand? I thought that was the idea

The only "visa" for which one can apply in Thailand are 90-day types, marked "used" upon issuance, to allow a subsequent 1-year extension application.  The "extension of stay" for the DTV for an additional 180 days would be available in Thailand. 

[Karma80]

Well, it seems the floodgates have opened, then. Thailand will be awash with remote workers and digital nomads. Most will already be working through their corporate vehicle as contractors anyway, so it's trivial to magic up a contract.

[Pattaya57]

24 minutes ago, Tim K said:

Apparently I can apply via e-Visa but only if I fly to Kazakhstan or Tajikistan or Mongolia or Hong Kong or Macau but not from Thailand or Russia/Malaysia/Vietnam/Cambodia/Laos.

What's the difference?? it's e-visa

No you can't. For e-visa you must provide proof of residence in the country you are applying from (and e-visa not allowed to be applied in Thailand). And not all countries have access to Thai e-visa, Australia only got it in March this year

 

Edited July 15 by Pattaya57

[Rob Browder]

10 minutes ago, Karma80 said:

Well, it seems the floodgates have opened, then. Thailand will be awash with remote workers and digital nomads. Most will already be working through their corporate vehicle as contractors anyway, so it's trivial to magic up a contract.

"Awash" with many thousands of new job opportunities for Thais, also - from Grab-taxis to restaurants, bars, hospitality, etc.

[Lorry]

9 minutes ago, Rob Browder said:

"Awash" with many thousands of new job opportunities for Thais, also - from Grab-taxis to restaurants, bars, hospitality, etc.

Yeah, and washing dishes at McDonald.

Not what I call an opportunity. 

Just the opposite: lifelong serfdom

Edited July 15 by Lorry

[Pattaya57]

Are any Agents offering the fake "professional portfolio showcasing digital nomad, remote worker, foreign talent or freelancer status" yet?

Edited July 15 by Pattaya57

[Rob Browder]

Just now, Lorry said:

Yeah, and washing dishes at McDonald.

Not what I call an opportunity. 

Just the opposite: lifelong serfdom

I did my decades of serfdom, so I do understand the sentiment - I resented every single expletive-day of it.  But, versus what, though?   Are you familiar with village-life, for most Thais?  There is a reason they come to tourist-areas for jobs.  Also, consider many new small-business owners will be part of this. 

[tarheeldan]

It's in the Royal Gazette now:

https://ratchakitcha.soc.go.th/documents/37565.pdf

 

[shdmn]

I have an online hosting business which I believe qualifies me as a digital nomad. I have no clue what sort of documentation to show them for that other than a link to my website.  I doubt that would be good enough.

Edited July 15 by shdmn

[Karma80]

10 minutes ago, tarheeldan said:

It's in the Royal Gazette now:

https://ratchakitcha.soc.go.th/documents/37565.pdf

 

 

Thanks. It literally is a five-year visa to live in Thailand for 180 days each entry then for 10,000 THB. Wow.

[tarheeldan]

Google Translate from Royal Gazette:

 

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Page 9 Royal Gazette

15 July letol

Announcement of the Ministry of Interior

Subject: Allowing foreigners to stay in the Kingdom for tourism and remote work It's a special case.

With the outbreak of coronavirus disease 2019 affecting the economy. Overall of the country The government has therefore set measures to stimulate the tourism economy by attracting foreigners. who have potential and wish to come to stay to travel and work remotely in Thailand by allowing foreigners with high potential to come to stay in the Kingdom to travel and work remotely in Thailand It's a special case. In order to revive the tourism economy of Thailand. This will result in increased spending within the country and will be beneficial to related business operators. Create continuous income for the people. which will be beneficial to the development of the country's tourism economy

By virtue of Section 5, paragraph one, of the Immigration Act B.E. 2522 (1979), which was amended by National Council for Peace and Order Announcement No. 87/2014 regarding amendments. Law enforcers related to the powers and duties of police officers, dated July 10, 2014, and Section 17 of the Immigration Act, B.E. 2522, the Prime Minister and the Minister of Interior With the approval of the Cabinet on 28 May 2024, the following announcement was issued:

Article 1 This announcement will come into force from 15 July 2024 onwards. Article 2 The following foreigners can request permission to enter the Kingdom for tourism or remote work as special cases according to this announcement and

(3) Aliens who wish to reside in Thailand. To travel and work remotely, including foreigners who wish to come and stay for long-term tourism. Foreigners who wish to travel Came to stay to work remotely, including highly skilled groups. Independent career group remote work group or alien who wish to come and do other activities, including learning Muay Thai and martial arts cooking class

Studying and practicing sports Medical treatment, training, seminars, art and music exhibitions (2) Accompanying persons of aliens under (3) who are spouses and legal children who are not more than twenty years of age

Aliens under (1) must have financial evidence. or evidence of financial support For travel or having a guarantor of not less than 500,000 baht according to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. and the Immigration Bureau jointly determine When submitting an application for a visa or requesting an extension of time Permission to stay in the Kingdom temporarily

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Section 3. Aliens who wish to request permission to enter the Kingdom. It's a special case.

 

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Volume 143, special section

15 July bitol

Article 3: The foreigner wishes to request permission to enter the Kingdom. As a special case, according to this announcement, submit an application for a special tourist visa (Destination Thailand Visa: DTV). You can apply for a visa from the embassy or Thai Consulate General abroad For use unlimited number of times within the service life five year visa

The foreigner's entourage shall receive a special tourist visa (Destination Thailand Visa: DTV) according to the alien's rights under paragraph one.

Aliens and their dependents must pay a one-time visa fee of ten thousand baht. Visa inspection according to this article To be in accordance with the criteria, methods and conditions set by the Ministry. Foreign affairs stipulated

Clause 4: Competent officials under the law on immigration shall stamp permission for foreigners. and the dependents stay in the Kingdom for not more than one hundred and eighty days at a time. For use unlimited number of times without having to apply for a visa to re-enter the Kingdom

Article 5 In the case that an alien and his dependents wish to stay in the Kingdom temporarily. Next, after the time for permission has expired according to item 4, before the time for permission has expired. give to foreigners Apply for an extension of the permit period in accordance with the criteria and conditions specified by the Immigration Bureau. In this case, the official under the immigration law shall stamp the extension of the permit period for the foreigner. and the dependents can continue to stay in the kingdom for not more than one hundred and eighty days. Can be used an unlimited number of times. However, the said period when combined with the period of permission to stay in the Kingdom according to Section 4 must not exceed. Visa validity period according to item 3

Item 5: Aliens and their dependents who have received a special tourist visa (Destination Thailand Visa: DTV) and later wish to request a change of visa type or Apply for a visa to stay temporarily in the Kingdom for other purposes. to be able to do and granting a special tourist visa type (Destination Thailand Visa: DTV) the original effect has ceased. Consideration is being given to granting permission to change the visa type. and continued stay in the Kingdom temporarily for other purposes To be in accordance with the rules, procedures and conditions at the office. Immigration determined

Article 7. Aliens and their dependents who are legal spouses who have received a visa type Special category tourists (Destination Thailand Visa: DTV) wish to work in the Kingdom When permission has been granted to stay in the Kingdom Submit and change the visa type to People who stay temporarily for work first Then apply for a work permit according to the management law. The work of foreigners continues

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Article 4: Aliens and their dependents according to this announcement shall notify their residence according to Section 37, paragraph one (5) to the competent official in accordance with the law on immigration. Article 4. Permission for aliens to stay in the Kingdom as a special case according to this announcement. It will cease to be effective.

 

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Article 4: Aliens and their dependents according to this announcement shall notify their residence according to Section 37, paragraph one (5) to the competent official in accordance with the law on immigration. Article 4. Permission for aliens to stay in the Kingdom as a special case according to this announcement. It will cease to be effective.

In the event that the alien's permission to stay in the Kingdom is revoked for any reason. When the alien's permission to stay in the Kingdom is revoked under paragraph one. The permission to stay in the Kingdom of the foreigner's dependents also ends. Section 10. Implementation of this announcement must be in accordance with the rules, procedures and conditions specified. Ministry of Foreign Affairs or Immigration Office, as the case may be specified.

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[anrcaccount]

8 minutes ago, Karma80 said:

 

Thanks. It literally is a five-year visa to live in Thailand for 180 days each entry then for 10,000 THB. Wow.

 

Yup, an absolute free for all. 

 

Looking at the conditions-  will be very broad and very, very easy to qualify for.

 

Might as well have just changed the visa exempt entries to 5 years!

 

 

 

 

[Pattaya57]

Amazing Thailand. It really is a 5 year multi-entry visa that gives 180 days per entry unlimited times during 5 year validity. It also allows 180 days extension on every 180 day entry. 

 

This part in gazette seems new though, how do you apply for long term tourism rather than working as a nomad 😀

 

(3) Aliens who wish to reside in Thailand. To travel and work remotely, including foreigners who wish to come and stay for long-term tourism. 

 

Edited July 15 by Pattaya57

[shdmn]

9 minutes ago, Pattaya57 said:

Amazing Thailand. It really is a 5 year multi-entry visa that gives 180 days per entry unlimited times during 5 year validity. It also allows 180 days extension on every 180 day entry. 

 

This part in gazette seems new though, how do you apply for long term tourism 😀

 

(3) Aliens who wish to reside in Thailand. To travel and work remotely, including foreigners who wish to come and stay for long-term tourism. 

 

Good catch.  Just for tourism would be something new.  Maybe that is a translation error because the requirements on the embassy websites don't say anything about just tourism.

Edited July 15 by shdmn

[anrcaccount]

Just now, shdmn said:

Good catch.  Yes, just for tourism would be something new.  Maybe that is a translation error because the embassy websites don't say anything like that.  They indicate you need documentation of work.

 

No, documentation of work is one option.

 

Others include visiting for art exhibitions, music festivals, Muay Thai or cooking classes.......

 

AKA- tourism. 

 

This is looking more like a glorified Tourist METV, 5 years validity. 

 

Roll up, one and all! 

[shdmn]

11 minutes ago, anrcaccount said:

 

No, documentation of work is one option.

 

Others include visiting for art exhibitions, music festivals, Muay Thai or cooking classes.......

 

AKA- tourism. 

 

This is looking more like a glorified Tourist METV, 5 years validity. 

 

Roll up, one and all! 

Not just visiting art exhibits and music festivals.  Actually participating in them.  So no, that does not explain the just tourism thing.

Edited July 15 by shdmn

[anrcaccount]

4 minutes ago, shdmn said:

Not visiting art exhibits and music festivals.  Actually participating in them.  So no, that's not what they are talking about when they say just tourism.

 

How do you figure that from this wording? 

 

What's the difference between attending and participating? 

 

"oralien who wish to come and do other activities, including learning Muay Thai and martial arts cooking class

Studying and practicing sports Medical treatment, training, seminars, art and music exhibitions"

[Lorry]

 

Nothing is written about taxes. So you will be a tax resident.

It makes a lot of sense to ask first what you work, then give you a visa  and then tax you.

Much better for Thailand than the way it's now: you come here anyway, under all kinds of visa, nobody knows that/what you work,  you don't pay taxes here.

BTW these are taxes for Thai-sourced income,  DTA won't help. You can claim a tax credit in your home country if you pay taxes there, too.

 

[anrcaccount]

1 minute ago, Lorry said:

 

Nothing is written about taxes. So you will be a tax resident.

It makes a lot of sense to ask first what you work, then give you a visa  and then tax you.

Much better for Thailand than the way it's now: you come here anyway, under all kinds of visa, nobody knows that/what you work,  you don't pay taxes here.

BTW these are taxes for Thai-sourced income,  DTA won't help. You can claim a tax credit in your home country if you pay taxes there, too.

 

 

For the love of God, Buddha or whatever it's called, please do not turn this discussion into another tax thread. 

 

[Tim K]

I'm sure the extension fee would be higher than 10k to make the process "smooth".
With ED visa Phuket officials want 5k not the 1900thb.

[Caldera]

1 minute ago, Lorry said:

 

Nothing is written about taxes. So you will be a tax resident.

It makes a lot of sense to ask first what you work, then give you a visa  and then tax you.

Much better for Thailand than the way it's now: you come here anyway, under all kinds of visa, nobody knows that/what you work,  you don't pay taxes here.

BTW these are taxes for Thai-sourced income,  DTA won't help. You can claim a tax credit in your home country if you pay taxes there, too.

 

 

Correct. I've always found it ridiculous when posters on here said that Thailand doesn't want tourists to stay for more than 180 days per year because they would then be tax residents.

 

Why should Thailand object to having MORE tax residents? The more, the merrier. This visa actively encourages people to stay longer, for pretty much any (legal) reason from remote work to taking cooking classes.

[Pattaya57]

10 minutes ago, Lorry said:

 

Nothing is written about taxes. So you will be a tax resident.

It makes a lot of sense to ask first what you work, then give you a visa  and then tax you.

Much better for Thailand than the way it's now: you come here anyway, under all kinds of visa, nobody knows that/what you work,  you don't pay taxes here.

BTW these are taxes for Thai-sourced income,  DTA won't help. You can claim a tax credit in your home country if you pay taxes there, too.

 

So then just use DTV to stay 180 days per year and then you are not a tax resident. Pretty simple.

 

I've been living 50:50 between Australia and Thailand since 2018 so DTV would have been perfect instead of so many visa exempt + extension trips. Sounds like a great visa, especially for people splitting their living time between countries.

 

Edited July 15 by Pattaya57

[Lorry]

1 minute ago, Pattaya57 said:

So then just use DTV to stay 180 days per year and then you are not a tax resident. Pretty simple.

 

I've been living 50:50 between Australia and Thailand since 2018 so DTV would have been perfect instead of so many visa exempt + extension trips. Sounds like a great visa

 

Whom do they target with the possibility to bring wife and kids? (Tax) residents.