11 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

Then the press are lying again... 🙄

Come on. This is well documented. Jeez

10 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

I'll accept any court decision if I believe there was a fair trial.

Your opinion means nothing. It was a fair trial. Trump's a convicted criminal. Lock him up!

9 minutes ago, candide said:

In other words, if Trump wins. Same as the election, I guess.

 

Don't assume that everyone is as ideologically whacked out as you.

5 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

Come on. This is well documented. Jeez

 

I'm aware that it is well documented that the press lies about Trump.  🤷‍♂️

1 minute ago, BangkokReady said:

 

I'm aware that it is well documented that the press lies about Trump.  🤷‍♂️

Reports of him being a viable candidate being an example.

2 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

I'm aware that it is well documented that the press lies about Trump.  🤷‍♂️

Link for the lies?

Kangaroo court explained.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6354106203112

17 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

Link for the lies?

 

If you really need them.  Like I said, it's pretty well established how dishonest the press is about Trump.

 

https://nypost.com/2021/06/13/more-media-lies-about-donald-trump-and-bill-barr-debunked/

 

https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/07/12/trump-lies/

 

https://townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/2019/08/06/america-is-drowning-in-the-lefts-lies-about-trump-n2551237

 

https://sharylattkisson.com/2024/01/50-media-mistakes-in-the-trump-era-the-definitive-list/

 

https://www.dailysignal.com/2022/11/10/bidens-lies-vs-trumps-lies-what-a-difference-an-administration-makes/

 

https://crisismagazine.com/opinion/the-lies-they-continue-to-tell-about-donald-trump

They've made him into a martyr.

 

All the Republicans need now is Hillary to make a speech calling his supporters nasty names and it will be a slam dunk for the GOP.

 

Come on Hillary, think about Monica and let rip with that bile. Maybe Obama could do a speech as well, he managed to secure Brexit so let's hear his empty threats again.

6 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

They've made him into a martyr.

 

All the Republicans need now is Hillary to make a speech calling his supporters nasty names and it will be a slam dunk for the GOP.

 

Come on Hillary, think about Monica and let rip with that bile. Maybe Obama could do a speech as well, he managed to secure Brexit so let's hear his empty threats again.

Yea, he's a martyr just like Osama bin Laden is a martyr to radical jihadis. Anyway, he prefers to compare himself to Mother Teresa.

 

He's actually kryptonite to Repubs. All he ever won was the Electoral College in 2016.

 

He lost the popular vote twice.

He lost (R)s the House in 2018, and both the House and Senate in 2020.

He lost the Senate in Georgia really badly...even the runoff.

 

As he whines his way into the election, he will lose more and more fringe and swing voters with his bizarre rants and threats of 'retribution'. His conviction will only help with those who already worship him; it won't gain new voters.

 

His presser yesterday was absolute madness. Totally unhinged stream of (un)consciousness.  Jails in the Congo? WTF?

 

As Jimmy Kimmel said, the guy has so many screws loose even Boeing is going to recall him.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

I'll accept any court decision if I believe there was a fair trial.

exactly, and the bulk of legal observers in this case say it wasnt.

 

Any independet American voter here convinced by the TDS arguments here or the show trial conviction? Any Trump vote changed? 

 

Topics such as this are for the TDS crowd to sit around hurl insults at ordinary Americans who either support Trump or dont thinkl he has been treated fairly. Much of the babble comes from folks who dont matter (non Americans, who use the whole situation to sniff the air and show how superior they are) and all of the incoherent bleating and screeching shows an astonishing ignorance of American law as well as the loathesome elitist denigration of thsoe who arent in their "cool" crowd. There isnt a person here babblefrothing about how fair the trial was or how Trump is guilty that could write a coherent legal brief on any issue involved in this case. They sure as hell cant name any crime that Trump was trying to cover up, how many pages now? Even the lefty corrupt NY Court system cant put an Appellate imprimatur on this one, and if they cut loose Harvey Weinstien, this one is a no brainer.

 

But it matters not. 53 million dollars in small donations donated to the Orange Tough Man in 24 hours and 30% coming from new donors, polls showing Biden has only a single digit lead in NY (Im waiting for the new polls with bated breath) and the continual erosion of viewership in the anti Trump media especially among young folks and the concomitant growth of Fox news, demonstrate that over the next few months, you are going to see more and more of a howlingdervish insane hate filled frenzy on message Boards as the likelihood of a landslide grows. 

 

Because as Big Don says. "I'm doing it for you". He is. Any of us who think outside the Democratic box are vulnerable until they are once and truly defeated. To reuse the old fake Yamamoto quote: "the sleeping giant is awakened".

 

 

 

 

7 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Yea, he's a martyr just like Osama bin Laden is a martyr to radical jihadis. Anyway, he prefers to compare himself to Mother Teresa.

 

He's actually kryptonite to Repubs. All he ever won was the Electoral College in 2016.

 

He lost the popular vote twice.

He lost (R)s the House in 2018, and both the House and Senate in 2020.

He lost the Senate in Georgia really badly...even the runoff.

 

As he whines his way into the election, he will lose more and more fringe and swing voters with his bizarre rants and threats of 'retribution'. His conviction will only help with those who already worship him; it won't gain new voters.

 

His presser yesterday was absolute madness. Totally unhinged stream of (un)consciousness.  Jails in the Congo? WTF?

 

As Jimmy Kimmel said, the guy has so many screws loose even Boeing is going to recall him.

 

 

 

Comparing Trump to Bin Laden?

 

Get a grip...😃

3 hours ago, Walker88 said:

I'll try to answer.

 

1. Unlikely, given the endless appeal process, he would be jailed before the election. Possible, but unlikely.

 

2. Theoretically he could run things from prison, though his Presidency was primarily golfing ($175,000,000 cost to the US Taxpayer), doing rallies, calling into Fox, grifting off his properties by hosting foreigners who wanted something, & Tweeting. He just ran things....into the ground, as evidenced by his Recession and rising unemployment, plus massive increases in debt.

 

3. Repubs are cowards and have zero interest in American ideals or democracy. Note how the EXACT same ones still claiming 2020 was 'rigged' were perfectly happy to accept their own House or Senate victories on the same ballot. They just want to keep their jobs and hope they get chosen for some position. Some are just Performance Artists trying to create a brand; they have done zero legislation since retaking the House. They even blocked a Bordewr Security Bill a Repub Senator wrote, because the convicted felon wanted the border as an issue for the election. Right now they are all sucking up to be the VP on the ticket. They are also so embedded in the cult that they can't see that he actually is a loser. He only won in 2016 because of the anachronism called the Electoral College. He helped Repubs lose the House in 2018, barely hold the Senate, then lose the White House, House and Senate in 2020. Repubs seem not to have noticed he is actually the kiss of death.

 

The Repubs could put up a replacement who could probably beat Biden, but won't. Own goal.

Couldn't it also be said the Dems are cowards for not putting Biden out to pasture? I mean by keeping him in the hot seat it's giving the Republicans a genuine chance of winning. Surely any half decent Dem could beat Trump. 

Seems to me both parties are happy see this freak show ride out, for some strange reason. 

1 hour ago, BangkokReady said:

 

I'm aware that it is well documented that the press lies about Trump.  🤷‍♂️

Link showing the press lies about Trump...or just trolling

55 minutes ago, G_Money said:

Kangaroo court explained.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6354106203112

Faux News again. Stuck in your bubble. 🤪

47 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

If you really need them.  Like I said, it's pretty well established how dishonest the press is about Trump.

 

https://nypost.com/2021/06/13/more-media-lies-about-donald-trump-and-bill-barr-debunked/

 

https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/07/12/trump-lies/

 

https://townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/2019/08/06/america-is-drowning-in-the-lefts-lies-about-trump-n2551237

 

https://sharylattkisson.com/2024/01/50-media-mistakes-in-the-trump-era-the-definitive-list/

 

https://www.dailysignal.com/2022/11/10/bidens-lies-vs-trumps-lies-what-a-difference-an-administration-makes/

 

https://crisismagazine.com/opinion/the-lies-they-continue-to-tell-about-donald-trump

Ny post?  Really. An editorial. Super dodgy links.

29 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

exactly, and the bulk of legal observers in this case say it wasnt.

 

Any independet American voter here convinced by the TDS arguments here or the show trial conviction? Any Trump vote changed? 

 

Topics such as this are for the TDS crowd to sit around hurl insults at ordinary Americans who either support Trump or dont thinkl he has been treated fairly. Much of the babble comes from folks who dont matter (non Americans, who use the whole situation to sniff the air and show how superior they are) and all of the incoherent bleating and screeching shows an astonishing ignorance of American law as well as the loathesome elitist denigration of thsoe who arent in their "cool" crowd. There isnt a person here babblefrothing about how fair the trial was or how Trump is guilty that could write a coherent legal brief on any issue involved in this case. They sure as hell cant name any crime that Trump was trying to cover up, how many pages now? Even the lefty corrupt NY Court system cant put an Appellate imprimatur on this one, and if they cut loose Harvey Weinstien, this one is a no brainer.

 

But it matters not. 53 million dollars in small donations donated to the Orange Tough Man in 24 hours and 30% coming from new donors, polls showing Biden has only a single digit lead in NY (Im waiting for the new polls with bated breath) and the continual erosion of viewership in the anti Trump media especially among young folks and the concomitant growth of Fox news, demonstrate that over the next few months, you are going to see more and more of a howlingdervish insane hate filled frenzy on message Boards as the likelihood of a landslide grows. 

 

Because as Big Don says. "I'm doing it for you". He is. Any of us who think outside the Democratic box are vulnerable until they are once and truly defeated. To reuse the old fake Yamamoto quote: "the sleeping giant is awakened".

 

 

 

 

The bulk of legal observers say it wasn't a fair case. BS. A jury of his peers found him guilty. Accept it and move on

52 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

They've made him into a martyr.

 

All the Republicans need now is Hillary to make a speech calling his supporters nasty names and it will be a slam dunk for the GOP.

 

Come on Hillary, think about Monica and let rip with that bile. Maybe Obama could do a speech as well, he managed to secure Brexit so let's hear his empty threats again.

This is always very confusing to me.

In America there is a continuing discussion about letting the rule of law follow it's course versus the political consequences that may or may or not have.

Pundits on talk shows take that position sometimes (leave it up to the voter!), rabid politicians do it, posters like JonnyF do it, and even the famed AG Merrick Garland, handpicked by Biden, was quivering in his boots just thinking about the possibility of investigating and prosecuting a former president for obvious crimes. Most of which he swept under the carpet, for political reasons I guess.

 

All very strange. To me.

Even the Democrats are contributing to Trump.

 

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/business-leaders-speak-trump-guilty-verdict-one-immediately-donating-300k?cmpid=FNC_app#

 

 

 

44 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

exactly, and the bulk of legal observers in this case say it wasnt.

 

Any independet American voter here convinced by the TDS arguments here or the show trial conviction? Any Trump vote changed? 

 

Topics such as this are for the TDS crowd to sit around hurl insults at ordinary Americans who either support Trump or dont thinkl he has been treated fairly. Much of the babble comes from folks who dont matter (non Americans, who use the whole situation to sniff the air and show how superior they are) and all of the incoherent bleating and screeching shows an astonishing ignorance of American law as well as the loathesome elitist denigration of thsoe who arent in their "cool" crowd. There isnt a person here babblefrothing about how fair the trial was or how Trump is guilty that could write a coherent legal brief on any issue involved in this case. They sure as hell cant name any crime that Trump was trying to cover up, how many pages now? Even the lefty corrupt NY Court system cant put an Appellate imprimatur on this one, and if they cut loose Harvey Weinstien, this one is a no brainer.

 

But it matters not. 53 million dollars in small donations donated to the Orange Tough Man in 24 hours and 30% coming from new donors, polls showing Biden has only a single digit lead in NY (Im waiting for the new polls with bated breath) and the continual erosion of viewership in the anti Trump media especially among young folks and the concomitant growth of Fox news, demonstrate that over the next few months, you are going to see more and more of a howlingdervish insane hate filled frenzy on message Boards as the likelihood of a landslide grows. 

 

Because as Big Don says. "I'm doing it for you". He is. Any of us who think outside the Democratic box are vulnerable until they are once and truly defeated. To reuse the old fake Yamamoto quote: "the sleeping giant is awakened".

 

 

 

 

I was under the impression, obviously mistakenly, that the silly acronym "TDS" was not allowed on this site.  Since it apparently is, I will offer a synonym: TDS=American Patriot

 

It's odd that people can see things in such polar opposite ways. The convicted felon says "He's doing it for us". In my opinion, nothing could be farther from the truth. His entire life has been 100% about him, getting what he can, continuously blowing his own horn, acting entitled and as if he is above the law.

 

He got caught. He entered the US legal system, the bedrock of all that the nation is, and was found guilty of felonies...34 in all. If he hadn't stopped and delayed the other 3 trials, he would have many more, and much more serious, convictions added to his resume.

 

Do his supporters think he stole all those classified documents, jeopardizing national security and the identities of clandestine foreign assets, for them?

 

Do they think he tried to subvert the will of the people for their own good, or his own good?

 

Did he engage in fraudulent business activity for them?

 

Did he pay to coverup his (alleged) affairs with Stormy and Karen McDougal for them?

 

Did he send his MAGA crowd to attack the US Capitol because he thought they might enjoy three squares and a stiff bunk, all at the US Taxpayers expense in a Federal prison?

 

According to his former Chief of Staff Gen Kelly, he called men and women who give their lives for the US 'suckers and losers'. Doesn't sound like he cares nor respects them.

 

Every single thing he does and has ever done---in my opinion---is solely for his won personal gain. I have never seen anyone so self-serving and entitled. Nor such the absolute polar opposite of an Alpha Male. He's a whining crybaby.

 

He found out on Thursday that he is just a common citizen, with no additional privileges than any other American has, and since he broke the law, he was convicted by a jury of his peers.

 

Gang members who engage in drive-by shootings do not get fellow Crypts and other gangbangers on their jury. The jurors are selected at random from a pool of local citizens, and BOTH the prosecution and defense are allowed to question them before selection, and each have a set amount of refusals. If anyone thinks there was bias, blame the convict's legal representation, because they could have refused some jurors who made the list. It is of no meaning whatsoever that when he ran for office he did not pull well in the city that knows him better than anyone.

 

Having built his business largely in NYC, the place of his own birth, he absolutely got a true jury of his peers. They heard the witnesses, saw the evidence, and decided beyond a reasonable doubt, in all 34 felony counts, he was guilty.

10 minutes ago, G_Money said:

Even the Democrats are contributing to Trump.

 

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/business-leaders-speak-trump-guilty-verdict-one-immediately-donating-300k?cmpid=FNC_app#

 

 

 

Musk is a total nutter. A horrible person

3 hours ago, Elkski said:

How can any black people support trump or military is beyond me.   Its tribalism is the only explanation. 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/black-voters-criticize-biden-pandering-support-shifts-trump-insulting

3 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

Musk is a total nutter. A horrible person

He is a shoe in for the sequel to "The Smartest Guys in the Room". 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/05/16/us/elections/biden-trump-donors.html

 

President Biden may be struggling in national polls, but he recently overtook former President Donald J. Trump in at least one important measure: the total number of donors who have given to his campaign, which is often seen as a proxy for voter engagement.

2 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

Musk is a total nutter. A horrible person

And what credibility do you have to support your post?

 

I feel the same way about Biden and Bragg and Judge what’s his name.

5 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/05/16/us/elections/biden-trump-donors.html

 

President Biden may be struggling in national polls, but he recently overtook former President Donald J. Trump in at least one important measure: the total number of donors who have given to his campaign, which is often seen as a proxy for voter engagement.

Think again!

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-hauls-million-since-found-guilty-all-counts-criminal-trial

5 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/05/16/us/elections/biden-trump-donors.html

 

President Biden may be struggling in national polls, but he recently overtook former President Donald J. Trump in at least one important measure: the total number of donors who have given to his campaign, which is often seen as a proxy for voter engagement.

It's the same horse race politics media nonsense every 4 years.  People have short-term memories so they fall for it every time.  I think pretty much every incumbent president in recent history, that won a 2nd term, was behind in the polls at this time before the next election.  Doesn't matter who they were running against.  In other words, the polls right now are meaningless.

11 minutes ago, G_Money said:

And what credibility do you have to support your post?

 

I feel the same way about Biden and Bragg and Judge what’s his name.

One of many articles about him. He's nuts. Impossible to compare him to Biden or Bragg.

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/crazy-elon-musk-quotes-things-he-believes-2017-1#on-that-topic-musk-has-said-dissuading-people-from-using-self-driving-cars-is-tantamount-to-killing-them-6

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