Half of Americans Believe Trump Verdict Correct, Call for End to Campaign: Poll

[Walker88]

2 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

This is a typical daily left wing twist of the media that constantly appears on this site now.

 

Why not run with 50% of the respondents did NOT agree with the democrat NY jury decision ? Oh, right, does not fir the agenda

Yes, this Forum is RIGGED! RIGGED, I tell you.  UNFAIR! Nobody has ever seen anything like it. A DISASTER! I bet Soros funded this poll.

 

Actually, it's just an early poll, and the Forum ran it as it was reported, so anyone's scorn should go to ABC and Ipsos. As it really settles in that a guy whose convictions make it unlikely he could gain employment pouring Slurpies at a 7-11, yet who is still running for President, the numbers may well shift more in favor of dropping out.

 

Per both civil and criminal trials, we now have as a major Party candidate:

 

-a convicted felon

-a convicted charity fraudster

-a convicted sexual assaulter

-a convicted bank fraudster

-a convicted insurance fraudster

-a convicted defamer

-a gag order violator

 

That's a heck of a resume.

 

Coloring books and teddy bears will be distributed to anyone triggered by the ABC/Ipsos reporting.

[cdnvic]

Removed some personal attacks and comments on moderation. Both are against our code of conduct.

[In Full Agreement]

2 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

This is a typical daily left wing twist of the media that constantly appears on this site now.

 

Why not run with 50% of the respondents did NOT agree with the democrat NY jury decision ? Oh, right, does not fir the agenda

 

 

Come on, give it a rest.

 

 

Edited June 4 by In Full Agreement

[stoner]

why the incessant need to keep saying convicted felon convicted felon. yes we know. we all saw the news. 

 

will saying it over and over stop the appeal and election win ? 

[Berkshire]

Perhaps Trump should end his campaign.  America should not have a convicted felon as POTUS.  Nevermind the optics, but there's a long list of reasons why.  Heck, he can't even travel overseas to some countries as a convicted felon....

 

[Donald Trump may face travel restrictions with his newfound felon status, potentially complicating his presidency if he were to win another term in office.

Thirty-eight nations, counting the United States, bar felons from entry, according to World Population Review. Those bans stand regardless of whether someone is allowed to retain their passport after conviction.

Countries that turn felons away include several of the United States' strongest allies, like the United Kingdom, Australia and Canada — the final of which will host the G7 summit of world leaders in 2025. The list also includes a number of nations at the center of pressing foreign policy issues, such as China, Israel and Mexico.]

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-banned-37-countries-144904689.html

 

 

[In Full Agreement]

2 minutes ago, stoner said:

why the incessant need to keep saying convicted felon convicted felon. yes we know. we all saw the news. 

 

will saying it over and over stop the appeal and election win ? 

 

 

I can't speak for others but maybe it has to do with Trump's unbridled narcissism.

 

For me it'd  be a pleasure to learn of his squirming when he drops the soap in the prison showers.

[bunnydrops]

51 minutes ago, wombat said:

 I thought there was reasonable doubt, historically speaking🥷i

A civil case like E. Jean Carroll E. Vs Trump, No sleight of hand payments.

[stoner]

2 minutes ago, In Full Agreement said:

I can't speak for others but maybe it has to do with Trump's unbridled narcissism.

 

rise above that ? 

 

the more people keep repeating it over and over the more childish it sounds. 

Edited June 4 by stoner

[In Full Agreement]

1 minute ago, stoner said:

 

rise above that ? 

 

the more people keep repeating it over and over the more childish it sounds. 

 

 

Rise above it just as Tump rises above the law he feels he doesn't need to follow?

[OneMoreFarang]

I just read this interesting article from the time when the GOP was still a party of law and order - a long time ago.

 

The Republican party has transformed into the Trump Maga party | Sidney Blumenthal | The Guardian

 

 

 

[stoner]

2 minutes ago, In Full Agreement said:

 

 

Rise above it just as Tump rises above the law he feels he doesn't need to follow?

 

courts are seeing to that just now no ? 

[connda]

The Hill.  Of course!

MSM - "Trump's a Convict and most Americans want him to drop out. Grrrr!"

Most of the Left which includes virtually every MSM outlet (including The Hill) are now mounting a coordinated "Get Trump The Convict" campaign which will be unending vitriol and questionable "polls" until November 5th 2024. 

In the meanwhile:

Trump commands massive crowds during campaign stops and impromptu appearances like UFC 302.  I've left off the rousing chants of "Let's Go Brandon," which of course were not "Let's Go Brandon!"

Biden commands a few dozen supporters at his campaign stops which MSM cameras crop-out of the scene, and like 2020 he will probably spend most of the next five months in his basement in the White House or Delaware as the far-left MSM talking heads spew how "massive crowds of supporters show up at the White House in support of the President,"  (although most are pro-Palestine/anti-genocide protestors).  Expect nothing but the inversion of reality for the next 5 months.

 

 

Edited June 4 by connda

[Purdey]

Biden or Trump - it doesn't matter. If the majority vote for one or the other, that's fine. Accept the majority.

[connda]

2 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

In a perfect world we'd have neither Trump nor biden for candidates. But, here we are.

You don't.  You also have Jill Stein and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as well as others. 
There is a choice that doesn't include Trump or Biden.  The America public could reshape politics in one day if they weren't so dumbed-down.

[connda]

31 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

Perhaps Trump should end his campaign.  America should not have a convicted felon as POTUS.  Nevermind the optics, but there's a long list of reasons why. 

There ya go right there.
Left-wing MSM talking point regurgitated to the letter by a left-wing pro-Biden ideologue. 
That's the Democrats, Left-wing think-tanks, and MSM strategy for the next 5 months.

 

That's how it's done ppls!!! 

Personally what I expect to see Nov 6th 2024?

[Yagoda]

The best poll right now is the $200 million raised

[OneMoreFarang]

34 minutes ago, connda said:

Left-wing MSM talking point regurgitated to the letter by a left-wing pro-Biden ideologue. 
That's the Democrats, Left-wing think-tanks, and MSM strategy for the next 5 months.

 

In principle I agree with you. But what does the GOP and the MAGA crowd do?

He is innocent! Trump won the 2020 election. Biden is bad. 

What does the GOP, which used to be the party of law and order have to offer except talking bad about Biden?

 

The DEMs say: Look at the felon Trump, vote for us because he is bad.

And the MAGA shout: Vote for Trump because Biden and the DEMs are so bad.

 

Both parties are bad. Both candidates are bad.

And most Americans support a bad party and a bad candidate.

Maybe the problem are those challenged Americans who don't vote for anybody decent. I thought they have a democracy over there. Find good candidates and vote for them!

 

Edited June 4 by OneMoreFarang

[connda]

I'm going to give the Leftist ideologues a picture of how this is going to work.

Right now - I have no intentions of voting for Trump.  I don't agree with many of his domestic or foreign policies.

 

BUT

If he is thrown into jail between now and the presidential election, that will guarantee that he has my vote.  Why?  Because third-world Lawfare (the type we have never witnessed in America until this coordinated attack on Trump occurred) IS a clear and present danger to our American Republic - "one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and JUSTICE for all."

And trust me - what I just stated is the tip of the iceberg.

We have to get back to the "Indivisible" and "Justice For All" part again.

Biden's message is a divided America.
Trump's message (for all of his other warts) is a united America.
Listen the the content of their speeches - its clear.

 

Lawfare is a judicial nightmare - a "rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouch(ing) towards Bethlehem (Washington DC) to be born," to play on that wonderful poem by Yeats.
It can not be allowed in a free, US constitutional republic.  So? 
Throw Trump in jail - find out.  To the ballot boxes on Nov 5th.

 

 

Edited June 4 by connda

[OneMoreFarang]

36 minutes ago, connda said:

Personally what I expect to see Nov 6th 2024?

 

Or maybe something like this?

 

[connda]

3 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Both parties are bad. Both candidates are bad.

I'm in agreement with you.

[OneMoreFarang]

Just now, connda said:

Trump's message (for all of his other warts) is a united America.

Yes, join MAGA or else.

That an interesting way to unite people.

[Tug]

2 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

All trump has to do is make a VP pick that can beat Biden and these days thats just about  anybody.

You are missing something,trumps mental illness will prevent him from choosing anyone that could challenge him his VP  pick must be ultra a subservient groveling little tody otherwise trump couldent handle it.then there’s the charity fraud trump university fraud the rape and defamation the impressive string of business failures the disparaging of our vets and POWs his groveling to putin his weird comments about little Kim then there’s the thousands of unnecessary Covid deaths due to his incompetence his gross mishandling of and obstruction in the documents case then there’s his coup attempt (lots of countrys would have had him shot for that btw)how’s about adding 24% to our debt in 4 years for nothing?there’s absolutely no comparison between the two biden is far and away the better choice for the country 

[bobbin]

2 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

If trumps VP can beat Biden it's isn't ridiculous, actually far from it. Trump is jailed, picks a surrogate that is capable of beating the most unpopular president in history. VP pardons trump, resigns, Trump ascends. The dems need to go around to nursing homes to harvest ballots pretty soon.

You have been frequenting the weed shops again, haven't you..  😊

[candide]

4 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

This is a typical daily left wing twist of the media that constantly appears on this site now.

 

Why not run with 50% of the respondents did NOT agree with the democrat NY jury decision ? Oh, right, does not fir the agenda

Because the question was: "do you agree that...?" 😀

Edited June 4 by candide

[jvs]

5 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

The 50% will forget all about in three months.

 

The polls next week are going to show:

 

50% want Trump to drop out.

 

50% will vote for Trump.

 

50% will vote for Biden.

In three months there will be another trial,much more serious!

 

[jvs]

2 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

All trump has to do is make a VP pick that can beat Biden and these days thats just about  anybody.

Not puppy killers right?

 

[jvs]

1 hour ago, stoner said:

why the incessant need to keep saying convicted felon convicted felon. yes we know. we all saw the news. 

 

will saying it over and over stop the appeal and election win ? 

Just a moment,Trump has been saying things about Biden for a long time,sleepy is just one of them.

Only fair i think that people are having a little fun now with convict Trump.

What goes around comes around.

[candide]

22 minutes ago, connda said:

I'm going to give the Leftist ideologues a picture of how this is going to work.

Right now - I have no intentions of voting for Trump.  I don't agree with many of his domestic or foreign policies.

 

BUT

If he is thrown into jail between now and the presidential election, that will guarantee that he has my vote.  Why?  Because third-world Lawfare (the type we have never witnessed in America until this coordinated attack on Trump occurred) IS a clear and present danger to our American Republic - "one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and JUSTICE for all."

And trust me - what I just stated is the tip of the iceberg.

We have to get back to the "Indivisible" and "Justice For All" part again.

Biden's message is a divided America.
Trump's message (for all of his other warts) is a united America.
Listen the the content of their speeches - its clear.

 

Lawfare is a judicial nightmare - a "rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouch(ing) towards Bethlehem (Washington DC) to be born," to play on that wonderful poem by Yeats.
It can not be allowed in a free, US constitutional republic.  So? 
Throw Trump in jail - find out.  To the ballot boxes on Nov 5th.

 

 

Trump did what he did. In any other democratic country, Trump would probably already be in jail.

[impulse]

15 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Yes, join MAGA or else.

That an interesting way to unite people.

 

"Make America Great Again".  We may disagree on how that's best done, but anyone demanding "Death to America" is probably not a unifier.  Or calling out the USA as racist...  Or burning down city blocks in the name of justice.  Or insisting that the few percent of the citizenry with gender dysphoria, or Islamists, should dominate the landscape.

Personally, I'm in favor of letting the voters decide.  Not the Dem machine and 12 voters from a 90% blue city.

 

[Berkshire]

23 minutes ago, connda said:

If he is thrown into jail between now and the presidential election, that will guarantee that he has my vote. 

 

Every single person who says this was going to vote for Trump regardless.  He's gained nothing.