The Maldives Bans Israeli Passport Holders

[Bkk Brian]

  On 6/6/2024 at 3:20 AM, KhunLA said:

I did state as of Feb 2024  ... I don't follow things that closely, that don't affect me.  Especially the same ol' ... not different Israel conflicts.   Decades old, and will never change.   Lost respect for Israel when the shot up the USS Liberty.

 

Personally, I wish they'd just nuke each other and be done with it  ...  then the world can move on from the silliness of 2 irrelevant countries/areas of middle east, dominating the news, provided by ...   

 

Maybe concentrate on the atrocities in Africa where 10's of 1000's are dying, if not 100's of 1000's, that could use some assistance.

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It's quite obvious you don't follow things when you get things that wrong.

[impulse]

  On 6/6/2024 at 1:30 AM, RuamRudy said:

 

The state of Israel was founded over 70 years ago - if the Maldives was an anti-semitic country, why are they only taking this action now?

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Frankly, I'm surprised it didn't happen 50 years ago, when Israel broke all kinds of international laws to assassinate the Munich terrorists in countries around the world.  Not to mention hunting down Nazis and Gerald Bull and others.  It's not hard to imagine they'd do a rinse and repeat on Hamas people living in various countries.  Maybe even the Maldives.  Keeping Israeli passports out seems a reasonable measure to make sure your country isn't a hunting ground for agents flouting international law, posing as tourists.

I'm all for eliminating terrorists and guilty Hamas actors.  But not violating international law and violating national sovereignty and their laws to do it.  Perhaps the Israeli people will put some pressure on their gub'ment to adhere to the international laws they agreed to...  But I'm not holding my breath.

 

That's not an endorsement of the Maldives, BTW. The gub'ment there is as corrupt as the day is long.

 

[billd766]

  On 6/6/2024 at 3:17 AM, ChipButty said:

It was the case some years ago, even if you had an Israeli stamp in your passport some countries would deny you entry, 

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That is why when I was working I had 2 passports. 1 for muslim countries and the other for the rest of the world.

 

Every country in the world has the right to allow or dis-allow citizens of any other country entry, even persons with diplomatic immunity.

[thaibeachlovers]

  On 6/6/2024 at 3:17 AM, ChipButty said:

It was the case some years ago, even if you had an Israeli stamp in your passport some countries would deny you entry, 

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Saudi being one.

[ChipButty]

  On 6/6/2024 at 4:11 AM, billd766 said:

That is why when I was working I had 2 passports. 1 for muslim countries and the other for the rest of the world.

 

Every country in the world has the right to allow or dis-allow citizens of any other country entry, even persons with diplomatic immunity.

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Years ago many people didn't realise you could have more than one passport, 2 mates of mine went to Libya to work and got refused entry because they had Tel Aviv stamp in their passport, even the company they worked for obviously didn't know, they were not Jewish just been and worked there. 

[Emdog]

Ah yes, the Maldives, that bastion of human rights (sarcasm)

Tourists may stay there, married or not, even gay I understand

But the citizens live under Sharia law and it has severe punishment, such as the 15 year old girl who got 100 lashes (postponed til she is 18) and 8 months house arrest for having "sex outside of marriage"... what sort of sex?

Her uncle raped her, got her pregnant and later killed the baby...

BTW are any neighboring Muslim countries taking in Palestinian refugees from the carnage? Saudi? Turkey? Lebanon? etc

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-21595814

[KhunLA]

  On 6/6/2024 at 3:49 AM, Bkk Brian said:

It's quite obvious you don't follow things when you get things that wrong.

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That wrong ... seriously.  

 

Hostage exchange is quite common, both side, in all conflicts ... usually.

 

Bombing residential areas, schools & hospitals ... not really accepted.   Maybe why many no longer believe or support Israeli BS.  

[300sd]

  On 6/6/2024 at 4:06 AM, impulse said:

 

Frankly, I'm surprised it didn't happen 50 years ago, when Israel broke all kinds of international laws to assassinate the Munich terrorists in countries around the world.  Not to mention hunting down Nazis and Gerald Bull and others.  It's not hard to imagine they'd do a rinse and repeat on Hamas people living in various countries.  Maybe even the Maldives.  Keeping Israeli passports out seems a reasonable measure to make sure your country isn't a hunting ground for agents flouting international law, posing as tourists.

I'm all for eliminating terrorists and guilty Hamas actors.  But not violating international law and violating national sovereignty and their laws to do it.  Perhaps the Israeli people will put some pressure on their gub'ment to adhere to the international laws they agreed to...  But I'm not holding my breath.

 

That's not an endorsement of the Maldives, BTW. The gub'ment there is as corrupt as the day is long.

 

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Obviously no one else would have gone after the Munich terrorists! They murdered every Jewish athlete in their dorms at the Munich Olympics. Who cares huh? I have news for you. Mossad will go after these Hamas scum and believe me, they don't have to use their Israeli passports.

[Bkk Brian]

  On 6/6/2024 at 4:58 AM, KhunLA said:

That wrong ... seriously.  

 

Hostage exchange is quite common, both side, in all conflicts ... usually.

 

Bombing schools & hospitals ... not really accepted.   Maybe why many no longer believe of support Israeli BS.  

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Yes that wrong...... seriously

 

Your claim:

 

"There is Resolution ES-10/21, which simply calls for a ceasefire by both sides."

 

The facts. 

 

United Nations General Assembly Resolution ES-10/22 is a resolution of the tenth emergency special session of the United Nations General Assembly calling for an immediate ceasefire in the Israel–Hamas war, "immediate and unconditional" hostage release, "ensuring humanitarian access" and that "all parties comply with their obligations under international law".

 

There has been additional resolutions stating the same thing and an ICJ ruling stating the same thing.

 

United Nations General Assembly Resolution ES-10/21 is a resolution of the tenth emergency special session of the United Nations General Assembly relating to the Israel–Hamas war.

It called for an "immediate and sustained" humanitarian truce and cessation of hostilities, condemned "all acts of violence aimed at Palestinian and Israeli civilians" and "[d]emands that all parties immediately and fully comply with their obligations under international law".

 

 

 

 

[KhunLA]

  On 6/6/2024 at 5:03 AM, Bkk Brian said:

Yes that wrong...... seriously

 

Your claim:

 

"There is Resolution ES-10/21, which simply calls for a ceasefire by both sides."

 

The facts. 

 

United Nations General Assembly Resolution ES-10/22 is a resolution of the tenth emergency special session of the United Nations General Assembly calling for an immediate ceasefire in the Israel–Hamas war, "immediate and unconditional" hostage release, "ensuring humanitarian access" and that "all parties comply with their obligations under international law".

 

There has been additional resolutions stating the same thing and an ICJ ruling stating the same thing.

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why are you acting like that is some big surprise or major development.   both side will either eventually do or not.  Just another repeat of history for them.

 

UN resolution simply aren't enforceable.   Israel has proved that time & time again.

 

Hence the problem, and the never ending conflict.   Who cares, except Israelis, Palestinians, and defense contractors.   As long as theirs money to be made, nobody really cares about the body count, or it would end.   

 

The USA could stop all foreign aid to Isreal, and the UN could send peace keeper in.   Do you see that happening.   WAKE UP ... conflicts are profitable, that's why they are allowed.

 

Here's a few ... never ending conflicts.   Take a peek at the ones just since 2000.

Humans are a horrible species 

[Bkk Brian]

  On 6/6/2024 at 5:15 AM, KhunLA said:

why are you acting like that is some big surprise or major development.   both side will either eventually do or not.  Just another repeat of history for them.

 

UN resolution simply aren't enforceable.   Israel has proved that time & time again.

 

Hence the problem, and the never ending conflict.   Who cares, except Israelis, Palestinians, and defense contractors.   As long as theirs money to be made, nobody really cares about the body count, or it would end.   

 

The USA could stop all foreign aid to Isreal, and the UN could send peace keeper in.   Do you see that happening.   WAKE UP ... conflicts are profitable, that's why they are allowed.

 

Here's a few ... never ending conflicts.   Take a peek at the ones just since 2000.

Humans are a horrible species 

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You are the one that brought it up......  & I was correcting you with the facts, not much of a surprise there. 

[Hummin]

  On 6/6/2024 at 12:34 AM, KhunLA said:

Agree

Any country that has that many UN resolutions against them, and simply ignores them should start to have some 'sanctions' imposed on them.   That doesn't even include the ones proposed that the USA has vetoed.   

 

Maybe the citizens will wake up, and start insisting their govt be a bit more humane to people.

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and the interesting part is Russia, China And Usa who use their veto right to protect their partners. 

 

Maldives is a Sunni Islam state, so easy to understand their support for Gaza and Palestinians. 

[Hummin]

  On 6/6/2024 at 1:00 AM, stevenl said:

So a statement from a US congressman claiming it is anti-Semitism proves it is anti-Semitism.

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Only Bagdad Bob Did a better job than BKK Bob

  On 6/6/2024 at 2:13 AM, KhunLA said:

Might be a reason for that ... did you ever think about that ? 

 

There is Resolution ES-10/21, which simply calls for a ceasefire by both sides.

 

The UN doesn't even consider Hamas a 'terrorist organization'. (as of Feb 2024)

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you need a link for that one

[Hummin]

  On 6/6/2024 at 1:30 AM, RuamRudy said:

 

The state of Israel was founded over 70 years ago - if the Maldives was an anti-semitic country, why are they only taking this action now?

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it is a few weeks ago, and 0,6 % of their visitors have been Israelis, so this is merely an political statement after seeing the result of the war on Gaza. 

[Hummin]

  On 6/6/2024 at 1:51 AM, JonnyF said:

Another example of the October 7th attacks having the desired effect. 

 

Looks like terrorism pays after all. Very sad. 

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How do you think Israel finely became a state? By asking nicely? Terorrism is and have been a tool when nothing else have worked. 

[Hummin]

  On 6/6/2024 at 2:58 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

Hopefully non will.

 

There is no justification to ban all Israeli Passport holders, many of whom oppose Nathanyahu’s continuing war in Gaza.

 

It’s totally unjustified and only serves to provide ‘useful copy’ to those who wish to distract from the ongoing carnage.

 

 

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Do you agree Russians should be able to travel free wherever they want? Just imagine Thailand ban russians for the war. I would think that would be great. 

[Bkk Brian]

Its not the first time the Maldives have shown their extreme antisemitism. This from a few years ago.

 

Israeli tourists evacuated from Maldives

The tourists were evacuated earlier this week from Kaafu Thulusdhoo Island by security services after protesters on the island called for their removal and protesters from other places began converging on the island, according to minivannews.com.

The sign, outside a guesthouse owned by Mohamed Hashim, featured a swastika next to an Israeli flag. The tourist ripped it in half, according to the report. Hashim told the news service that about 60 percent of the bookings in his guesthouse are Israelis.

Following the evacuation of the tourists, a protest was held in the Maldives capital of Male, during which an Israeli flag was burned. The protest follows a pro-Palestinian protest held earlier this month in Male, attended by about 13,000 people.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-tourists-evacuated-from-maldives/

[delgarcon]

  On 6/6/2024 at 1:00 AM, stevenl said:

So a statement from a US congressman claiming it is anti-Semitism proves it is anti-Semitism.

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Especially if he's a Jewish congressman!

[Hummin]

  On 6/6/2024 at 5:35 AM, Bkk Brian said:

Its not the first time the Maldives have shown their extreme antisemitism. This from a few years ago.

 

Israeli tourists evacuated from Maldives

The tourists were evacuated earlier this week from Kaafu Thulusdhoo Island by security services after protesters on the island called for their removal and protesters from other places began converging on the island, according to minivannews.com.

The sign, outside a guesthouse owned by Mohamed Hashim, featured a swastika next to an Israeli flag. The tourist ripped it in half, according to the report. Hashim told the news service that about 60 percent of the bookings in his guesthouse are Israelis.

Following the evacuation of the tourists, a protest was held in the Maldives capital of Male, during which an Israeli flag was burned. The protest follows a pro-Palestinian protest held earlier this month in Male, attended by about 13,000 people.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-tourists-evacuated-from-maldives/

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Some parts in the world swastika still meaning good fortune, and is commonly seen All over Asia! 

 

Not sure of the back ground story here, but worth checking out

[Doctor Tom]

No loss to the Israelis, the place has turned into a dumping ground of trash, with nowhere to visit but to your hotel beach.  Not on my list to visit again any time soon.  For Maldives, also read Bali. 

[Bkk Brian]

  On 6/6/2024 at 5:47 AM, Hummin said:

 

Some parts in the world swastika still meaning good fortune, and is commonly seen All over Asia! 

 

Not sure of the back ground story here, but worth checking out

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In Maldives when they burn the Israeli flag and have swastikas then that's not the case there, so irrelevant

[Captain Monday]

Hard to imagine why anybody would want to travel there on a vacation anyway. 

Is there a country that is more boring/expensive?

[KhunLA]

  On 6/6/2024 at 5:23 AM, Hummin said:

you need a link for that one

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Guess the screenshot wasn't enough ... how's this

 

Unless you have a link stating the UN has listed them as a 'terrorist organization'.

[connda]

134 nations out of the 193 UN members are simply stating the obvious:

"Genocide is not acceptable."  And they are now collectively acting on what can clearly be seen - daily - in Gaza.    Israel isolates itself in the international community as the ICJ and ICC address the needless deaths of Palestinian civilians between Oct 7, 2023 and the present - and as well - the needless deaths of Israeli civilians on Oct 7, 2023. 

Genocide, regardless of who is doing it to whom - is a crime against humanity and needs to end immediately.

[connda]

  On 6/6/2024 at 6:11 AM, connda said:

134 nations out of the 193 UN members are simply stating the obvious:

"Genocide is not acceptable."  And they are now collectively acting on what can clearly be seen - daily - in Gaza.    Israel isolates itself in the international community as the ICJ and ICC address the needless deaths of Palestinian civilians between Oct 7, 2023 and the present - and as well - the needless deaths of Israeli civilians on Oct 7, 2023. 

Genocide, regardless of who is doing it to whom - is a crime against humanity and needs to end immediately.

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What the Maldives did is essentially a "sanction" against Israeli citizens.  Probably the tip of the iceberg of what may be coming in the future.

[John Drake]

I thought the rising ocean level was sinking the Maldives. Pretty soon only fish will be visiting there. Who do they think is going to take them in before they drown? 

 

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By 2050, 80% of the country could become uninhabitable due to global warming.[1] According to the World Bank, with "future sea levels projected to increase in the range of 10 to 100 centimeters by the year 2100, the entire country could be submerged"  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_in_the_Maldives

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[connda]

  On 6/6/2024 at 4:58 AM, KhunLA said:

That wrong ... seriously.  

 

Hostage exchange is quite common, both side, in all conflicts ... usually.

 

Bombing residential areas, schools & hospitals ... not really accepted.   Maybe why many no longer believe or support Israeli BS.  

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What I find unconscionable, as an example, is the destruction of the Al-Israa University, which was occupied by the IDF for 70 days after which charges were set and the buildings demolished. 

There is no excuse for the destruction of social institutions other then deliberate ethnic cleansing.  Therefore all educational institution, religious institutions, hospitals, and government institutions are leveled. 

[connda]

  On 6/6/2024 at 6:22 AM, John Drake said:

I thought the rising ocean level was sinking the Maldives. Pretty soon only fish will be visiting there. Who do they think is going to take them in before they drown? 

 

 

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Funny - with "global warming melting all the icecaps and causing sea levels to rise," investors still flock to the Maldive to purchase land and properties.

Now - Risk Management 101: Buying properties requires insurance guarantees.  If the Maldive, or any other properties like the Obama's Martha Vineyard ocean-front estate, were threatened by an immanent flood of water due to "melting icecaps," then it would be impossible to obtain title insurance or property insurance.  The properties would be impossible to purchase.

Yet? 
https://www.cbre.co.th/press-releases/maldives-emerges-as-new-destination-for-property-investors

[Hummin]

  On 6/6/2024 at 6:06 AM, KhunLA said:

Guess the screenshot wasn't enough ... how's this

 

Unless you have a link stating the UN has listed them as a 'terrorist organization'.

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It is each and one member of the UN who is stating Hamas as a terror organization, not UN itself, but I cant really find anything else

 

Worth reading is this press release. World politics is complicated

 

Special Coordinator, Stressing ‘All Sides Must Urgently Change Course’, Appeals to Security Council for Support of Gaza’s Political Future

 

However, the 15-nation organ still refuses to recognize that the blame lies with the terrorists

https://press.un.org/en/2024/sc15710.doc.htm

[Bkk Brian]

Nikki Haley: Antisemitism is UN's worst-kept secret
The root cause of Oct 7 is no different from that which makes the UN so shy about condemning the jihadi evil of Hamas, former U.S. envoy writes

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel-at-war/1703253680-nikki-haley-antisemitism-is-un-s-worst-kept-secret