Popular Post Social Media Posted June 12 Popular Post Share Posted June 12 On June 11, U.S. President Joe Biden was seen embracing his grandson, Beau Biden, accompanied by his daughter-in-law, Melissa Cohen Biden, and his son, Hunter Biden. Earlier that day, Hunter was found guilty on all three counts in his criminal gun charges trial. Despite the potential political fallout, President Biden made no effort to interfere with the prosecution, allowing his Justice Department to secure a guilty verdict that could lead to jail time for Hunter, a recovering addict. The president stated, “I will accept the outcome of this case and will continue to respect the judicial process as Hunter considers an appeal.” Biden has already indicated that he won’t pardon his son. In his initial response to the verdict, Hunter Biden refrained from attacking the judge or prosecutors. Instead, he expressed gratitude for the love and support of his family and relief at being clean again. This demeanor contrasted sharply with Trump’s reaction to his own trial and conviction nearly two weeks prior in his hush money case. Trump lashed out at witnesses, prosecutors, jurors, and the judge, claiming, “This was done by the Biden administration in order to wound or hurt a political opponent.” He dismissed the verdict as a “rigged decision,” despite the Justice Department’s non-involvement in the Manhattan district attorney’s case. Trump has since been vocal about using presidential powers to punish his political adversaries and manipulate the legal system if he regains office. In a conversation with TV psychologist Phil McGraw, Trump justified revenge, saying, “Sometimes revenge can be justified. I have to be honest. You know, sometimes it can.” He also told Fox News, “I would have every right to go after them,” referring to the Bidens. Discrediting Trump's Claims with Hunter Biden's Verdict Trump has repeatedly claimed that he cannot receive a fair trial in predominantly Democratic areas like Manhattan. Yet, Delaware, a blue state, saw a jury convict the president’s son. One juror told CNN that politics never influenced their deliberations. In Trump’s trial, jurors have remained silent, possibly due to fears of identification following Trump’s intimidation tactics. A guilty verdict against Hunter Biden in a blue state challenges the narrative that a biased justice system unfairly targets Trump. Joe Biden’s commitment to the independence of the Justice Department, as promised during his campaign, stands in stark contrast to Trump’s vow to weaponize the legal system against political opponents if re-elected. Trump has openly declared his intentions to prosecute the Bidens and dismantle what he calls the “Deep State.” Michael Zeldin, a former senior Justice Department official, highlighted on CNN Max that the Hunter Biden conviction disproves Trump’s claims of a weaponized legal system targeting Republicans. “So much for the weaponization of the Justice Department to go after just the enemies of the other side,” Zeldin said. He emphasized that the Justice Department, under Attorney General Merrick Garland, is striving to act impartially and bring worthy prosecutions to trial. The perception of Justice Department neutrality was further reinforced by comments from David Weiss, the Trump-appointed U.S. attorney in Delaware. Elevated to special counsel by Garland to avoid the impression of political bias, Weiss thanked the attorney general for allowing him to operate independently. He stated, “No one in this country is above the law. Everyone must be accountable for their actions, even this defendant.” However, Weiss also emphasized that “Hunter Biden should be no more accountable than any other citizen convicted of this same conduct.” The Political and Legal Implications Hunter Biden’s conviction and the impending tax trial in September, along with other high-profile Democratic prosecutions, challenge the notion that the Justice Department exclusively targets Republicans. Democratic Senator Robert Menendez of New Jersey is on trial for bribery and corruption, and in May, the Justice Department indicted Democratic Representative Henry Cuellar of Texas and his wife for allegedly accepting around $600,000 from Azerbaijan’s state-owned oil firm and a Mexican bank in exchange for official acts as a member of Congress. Both Democrats maintain their innocence. Despite these facts, House Republicans are set to vote on holding Garland in contempt of Congress for refusing to release President Biden’s interview recordings with former special counsel Robert Hur. Biden has invoked executive privilege over these files. The GOP Narrative and Political Reality Democratic Representative Jamie Raskin contrasted Trump’s and Biden’s responses to legal scrutiny, pointing out that Republicans attack the justice system when dissatisfied with outcomes, whereas Democrats accept legal processes even when unfavorable. “The Republicans are attacking our entire system of justice and the rule of law because they don’t like the way one case came out. Whereas the son of the president of the United States is prosecuted and I don’t hear a single Democrat crying foul,” Raskin noted. Nevertheless, inconvenient truths often fail to penetrate the Republican echo chamber. Trump’s supporters in Congress used Hunter Biden’s conviction to spin new conspiracy theories rather than reassess their narrative. House Oversight Chairman James Comer called the Delaware trial “a step toward accountability” but accused Justice Department officials of covering for President Biden. Comer reiterated unfounded claims that Joe Biden profited from Hunter’s business dealings in Ukraine and China during his vice presidency, despite a lack of evidence from his committee and the House GOP impeachment probe. House Speaker Mike Johnson echoed this sentiment, vowing continued investigations into the Bidens’ business dealings. Stephen Miller, Trump’s former White House adviser, suggested that the Justice Department showed favoritism toward Hunter by not charging him with more severe crimes and proposed coercing him into testifying against his father. Some GOP reactions were outright bizarre. Georgia Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene speculated baselessly on X (formerly Twitter) that Hunter’s conviction was a plot to balance the scales of justice while ignoring other alleged Biden crimes. The Stakes of November’s Election The contrasting responses to these legal battles underscore the significant stakes of the November election. Princeton University history professor and CNN political analyst Julian Zelizer highlighted that voters must decide what kind of leadership they want in the Oval Office. “Not only is [Joe Biden] saying, the decision is also one that comes from the courts, he’s not saying he’s going to use presidential power to somehow issue a pardon. And you contrast that with the former president who’s attacked the legal system. He’s questioned its legitimacy,” Zelizer stated. He added, “Voters will have to make a choice. What kind of response do they want? And what kind of person do they want in the Oval Office come January of 2025?” Credit: CNN 2024-06-13 Get our Daily Newsletter - Click HERE to subscribe 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted June 12 Popular Post Share Posted June 12 Poor Donald how’s a grifter gonna grift if he can’t bleat about how he’s the big victim?I have a feeling it’s starting to get through to some trump supporters…..enough country before party ditch the albatross let the law take its course! 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thesetat2013 Posted June 12 Popular Post Share Posted June 12 Everything in the 2 cases being compared when there really is no comparison at all. They are taking a federal crime of lying on a gun permit application due to severe drug abuse and comparing it to a white collar crime which really should not have been made criminal (because no proof or charges relating to the election) and trying to say they are the same. Also, Bidens son is/was not the President and is not running in elections for being the President next term. This article is quite biased and written trying to make you believe the 2 cases are similar and the actions and reactions following convictions opposite from each other. What a load of B.S. 3 2 4 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted June 12 Popular Post Share Posted June 12 22 minutes ago, thesetat2013 said: Everything in the 2 cases being compared when there really is no comparison at all. They are taking a federal crime of lying on a gun permit application due to severe drug abuse and comparing it to a white collar crime which really should not have been made criminal (because no proof or charges relating to the election) and trying to say they are the same. Also, Bidens son is/was not the President and is not running in elections for being the President next term. This article is quite biased and written trying to make you believe the 2 cases are similar and the actions and reactions following convictions opposite from each other. What a load of B.S. you are mistaken trumps trying to conceal his true character during the election by fraudulent manipulation is indeed a crime 34 felony’s worth furthermore he is in the docket for far more serious crimes that in a healthy democracy would go to trial before the election.very few people are prosecuted for what hunter did its not a stretch to think this case is retribution for the by far and away more serious transgressions that Mr trump did 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosLobo Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Maga's latest conspiracy is that Hunter's gun charges are just a hoax and cover-up for Joe Biden's crimes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobodysfriend Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Hunter Biden should have pleaded guilty from the beginning . Donald Trump is a completely different character . One that will never admit to being guilty of no matter what ... It always is a ' witch hunt ' or somebody elses fault ... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cncltd1973 Posted June 13 Popular Post Share Posted June 13 this election truly sucks. I thought we deserve better than these 2. why is the executive branch the weakest in the system? AI is a better alternative than what we've been getting as presidental candidates 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Emdog Posted June 13 Popular Post Share Posted June 13 "Don't bother us with facts: we've already got our opinions" seems to be the motto of republican party under trump 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post riclag Posted June 13 Popular Post Share Posted June 13 Did the Cnn anchor report everything or did she cherry pick some of the many accusations that haven’t been investigated yet? weiss has been in the Doj since 2009 in Delaware. His most egregious act was to sit on the 2014-2015 tax fraud charges and let the statue of limitations run out ! Why because this would of involved joe biden! This is the Washington establishment in its true form. Weiss & the Doj had that case for years , did you see how many days it took ,to try in court! https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Shapley-Testimony.pdf Weiss was sworn in as the U.S. attorney for the District of Delaware in February 2018, following recommendations from Sens. Tom Carper (D) and Chris Coons (D), and was noted by Trump for sharing his vision for “Making America Safe Again.”! The above is called blue slipped! Under the so-called blue-slip policy, in order to be presented to the Senate for a vote, a judge or U.S. attorney nominated by the president must get the signoff, or blue-slip approval, from home-state senators. https://www.factcheck.org/2023/07/trump-appointed-weiss-with-democrats-blessing/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush/2023/08/11/who-is-david-weiss-the-special-counsel-investigating-hunter-biden/ 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thingamabob Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 6 hours ago, thesetat2013 said: Everything in the 2 cases being compared when there really is no comparison at all. They are taking a federal crime of lying on a gun permit application due to severe drug abuse and comparing it to a white collar crime which really should not have been made criminal (because no proof or charges relating to the election) and trying to say they are the same. Also, Bidens son is/was not the President and is not running in elections for being the President next term. This article is quite biased and written trying to make you believe the 2 cases are similar and the actions and reactions following convictions opposite from each other. What a load of B.S. Yes indeed. The cases against the Bidens of influence peddling for profit will be more interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignore it Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Hmm After Trump's post conviction boost in the polls and donations. Biden is hoping for the same offering up the bad boy as a sacrifice. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rudi49jr Posted June 13 Popular Post Share Posted June 13 1 hour ago, Thingamabob said: Yes indeed. The cases against the Bidens of influence peddling for profit will be more interesting. Influence peddling for profit. Don’t make me laugh. Remember the 2 billion dollars Jared Kushner got from the Saudi Arabian sovereign wealth fund? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 1 hour ago, Thingamabob said: Yes indeed. The cases against the Bidens of influence peddling for profit will be more interesting. Which case? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 9 hours ago, Tug said: Poor Donald how’s a grifter gonna grift if he can’t bleat about how he’s the big victim?I have a feeling it’s starting to get through to some trump supporters…..enough country before party ditch the albatross let the law take its course! No comparison. Trump has been hounded all over the forest by the Democratic mongrel pack for 9 years. And Hunter is not running for President. Two Bidens would be a way too much. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 What a joke! the judge rejected a sweetheart plea deal - Biden visited the ex-GF - who happened to be his dead son's wife - you could not make it up! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 (edited) 53 minutes ago, BobBKK said: What a joke! the judge rejected a sweetheart plea deal - Biden visited the ex-GF - who happened to be his dead son's wife - you could not make it up! It's the GOP who calls it a sweetheart deal, not the judge. Biden visiting his daughter in law, very strange! In summary, you have nothing. . Edited June 13 by candide 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi49jr Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 2 hours ago, nauseus said: No comparison. Trump has been hounded all over the forest by the Democratic mongrel pack for 9 years. And Hunter is not running for President. Two Bidens would be a way too much. Maybe if Trump behaved like a normal human being and didn’t keep breaking the law, inciting insurrections, trying to overturn the result of elections and wanting to be a dictator, there would be no need to ‘hound him all over the forest’. Mind you, your words, not mine. IMO, Trump has been handled with kid gloves almost his entire adult life and has gotten away with things ordinary citizens would never have gotten away with. Anyone else doing what he has done would have been in jail a long time ago. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 13 hours ago, Tug said: Poor Donald how’s a grifter gonna grift if he can’t bleat about how he’s the big victim?I have a feeling it’s starting to get through to some trump supporters…..enough country before party ditch the albatross let the law take its course! Instead of just ditching the albatross, why not ditch the gop as well. They are the ones holding the USA back. Perhaps they will at the next election, who knows? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesetat2013 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 11 hours ago, Tug said: you are mistaken trumps trying to conceal his true character during the election by fraudulent manipulation is indeed a crime 34 felony’s worth furthermore he is in the docket for far more serious crimes that in a healthy democracy would go to trial before the election.very few people are prosecuted for what hunter did its not a stretch to think this case is retribution for the by far and away more serious transgressions that Mr trump did If he did as you say. Surely there would be cases against him for manipulating the elections, which there are none. These cases again Trump used that as a bases to make them criminal cases. Which has not been proven and he has not even been charged with it. It is a scam to use it and should be unlawful in its own. This is why so many people think the cases he was found guilty of was being pushed into play by Biden and only recently been in the courts so near elections. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoner Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 3 hours ago, nauseus said: Two Bidens would be a way too much. trump can pick hunter as his VP running mate. once elected he can then pardon hunter and himself. they could even be cell mates and do campaign videos from a shared cell. then we can have world peace and hold hands. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 54 minutes ago, stoner said: then we can have world peace and hold hands. Ha ha excellent 😋 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 1 hour ago, billd766 said: Instead of just ditching the albatross, why not ditch the gop as well. They are the ones holding the USA back. Perhaps they will at the next election, who knows? That’s under weigh rite now the retrumpklians have been getting slaughtered at the polls,even when the do manage to squeak by it’s by less than the margin expected.they are the authors of some extremely unpopular legislation have been proven spineless cowards and more and more folks are disgusted with them.they need to ditch the albatross take the hit and come back to sanity…… 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuantumQuandry Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 2 minutes ago, Tug said: That’s under weigh rite now the retrumpklians have been getting slaughtered at the polls Someone's got a real short memory... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 My word, is this a rummage sale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 3 hours ago, Tug said: That’s under weigh rite now the retrumpklians have been getting slaughtered at the polls,even when the do manage to squeak by it’s by less than the margin expected.they are the authors of some extremely unpopular legislation have been proven spineless cowards and more and more folks are disgusted with them.they need to ditch the albatross take the hit and come back to sanity…… Under weigh lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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