Popular Post webfact Posted June 17, 2024 Popular Post Posted June 17, 2024 A Russian man tragically drowned on June 16th after swimming in rough seas at Surin Beach in Phuket, defying a red flag warning signalling dangerous conditions. The incident unfolded around 3 PM when 64-year-old Aleksei Apostolov entered the water alone, despite visible warnings of strong waves. Thai lifeguards, keeping a vigilant eye on the situation, acted promptly, pulling him from the turbulent waters and immediately initiating CPR. Without delay, officers from Cherngtalay Police Station and rescuers rushed to the scene. Despite their best efforts and en route attempts to revive Apostolov while transporting him to Thalang Hospital, he succumbed during the transfer. Reports indicate that Apostolov may not have noticed or chose to ignore the red flags that caution swimmers against entering the water under such hazardous conditions. Lifeguards did not specify whether attempts were made to warn him directly before he entered the sea. This incident is a stark reminder of the unforgiving nature of the sea and the importance of heeding safety warnings. It follows a similar tragic event at Nai Harn Beach in Phuket last week, where an American man’s body was recovered after he was swept away by strong waves while swimming with his son. The son was rescued by Thai lifeguards and survived. Other recent incidents in Thailand underscore the perils of water-related activities. In May, a 74-year-old Austrian man drowned in a Pattaya condominium pool, and security guards' attempts to resuscitate him were unsuccessful. Additionally, two siblings tragically drowned in the Mekong River in Nong Khai, with an elder brother’s brave rescue attempt for his sibling also ending in tragedy. These incidents collectively highlight the critical importance of water safety and adherence to posted warnings, particularly for tourists unfamiliar with local conditions. Picture via Facebook/ Speednews ภูเก็ต -- 2024-06-17 Get our Daily Newsletter - Click HERE to subscribe 1 1 3
Popular Post Soupdragon Posted June 17, 2024 Popular Post Posted June 17, 2024 Automated external defibrillators are relatively cheap and could save lives. Why are they not supplied to the life guards or at least to the ambulances and paramedics ? 1 3
Popular Post stevenl Posted June 17, 2024 Popular Post Posted June 17, 2024 46 minutes ago, Soupdragon said: Automated external defibrillators are relatively cheap and could save lives. Why are they not supplied to the life guards or at least to the ambulances and paramedics ? Why do you presume they have not been supplied? 2 1
impulse Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 I don't advocate swimming under a red flag, but I sure understand the temptation. Especially if I had flown thousands of miles from the tundra back home on my annual 2 week holiday, and the water looked calm (which is misleading under a rip current). That's why red flags are inadequate and there should be live human beings, warning people and explaining why that relatively calm looking water is hazardous. Seems like a reasonable cost of operating a world class tourist beach destination. We'll never see an autopsy, but it would also be interesting to know if the guy drowned, or if he vapor locked from a bad heart while exerting himself in the water. At that age, I suspect either scenario is about as likely. 1
Popular Post MalcolmB Posted June 17, 2024 Popular Post Posted June 17, 2024 52 minutes ago, Soupdragon said: Automated external defibrillators are relatively cheap and could save lives. Why are they not supplied to the life guards or at least to the ambulances and paramedics ? There is no government funded ambulances in Thailand. They are local volunteer rescuers and are self funded from donations. Or local hospitals. i just paid for an alternator for a volunteer ambulance. The staff go down to the local temple who give them food that was donated to the monks in the morning. i am sure if you would like to buy automated external defibrillators for them it would be very welcome. Since they are relatively cheap and all. 1 1 1 1 2
Popular Post Georgealbert Posted June 17, 2024 Popular Post Posted June 17, 2024 55 minutes ago, Soupdragon said: Automated external defibrillators are relatively cheap and could save lives. Why are they not supplied to the life guards or at least to the ambulances and paramedics ? Agree that AEDs are good life saving device, and should be carried by all trained first responders, life guards and ambulances. When someone has a cardiac arrest the victim has sufficient amounts of oxygen left in their bloodstream which, when circulated by CPR compressions, that oxygen can still be utilised by the body, an AED is then suitable to try to restart the heart, if needed. In a drowning victim, because the breathing has stopped prior to the heart, they will have little to no oxygen remaining in the bloodstream to be circulated. There is need for aggressive airway management and ventilation along with high-quality chest compressions, which is the key to the resuscitation of a drowning victim. Starting with airway management, the airway will need to be cleared of debris and liquid in order to perform ventilations. This can be accomplished by either turning the victim's head to the side allowing water to drain, or first responders can utilise a suction device. The airway will need to be opened and maintained with either the head tilt chin lift or in the event of a possible spinal injury, the jaw thrust manoeuvre. Ventilations can be accomplished by mouth to barrier device/pocket mask or a bag valve mask with supplemental oxygen. AEDs can be used on drowning victims and should be included in the resuscitation effort, once airway management is completed. Responders have to ensure that before applying the pads, the chest is dry to get proper pad contact. This will also prevent arching across the pads. If the victim is istill in the water, they need to be moved to a dryer area. 1 1 1
Gottfrid Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 1 hour ago, webfact said: Thai lifeguards, keeping a vigilant eye on the situation That´s great! Why not stop him from entering, as is was red flags there? 1 hour ago, webfact said: Reports indicate that Apostolov may not have noticed or chose to ignore the red flags that caution swimmers against entering the water under such hazardous conditions. Lifeguards did not specify whether attempts were made to warn him directly before he entered the sea. As they kept a "vigilant eye" on the situation, it looks like they just let him go on. Besides that, not see or ignore red flags? Yeah, I can only say red flags are there for a reason. Apostolov choosed to ignore that, which slightly changed his name. Now he is a apostle for others trying to be same stupid. 2 1 1
Popular Post Hakuna Matata Posted June 17, 2024 Popular Post Posted June 17, 2024 R.I.P. Having said this, way too many Russians now in Thailand, especially in Phuket and Pattaya. And 90% of them are not tourists! Mostly rogue people! Buying illegal ED visas to stay in Thailand for years and being involved in all kinds of illegal activities.. 1 1 1 1 1
wensiensheng Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 1 hour ago, Soupdragon said: Automated external defibrillators are relatively cheap and could save lives. Why are they not supplied to the life guards or at least to the ambulances and paramedics ? Wouldn’t have helped the American swept out to sea. 1
Popular Post BobBKK Posted June 17, 2024 Popular Post Posted June 17, 2024 6 minutes ago, Hakuna Matata said: R.I.P. Having said this, way too many Russians now in Thailand, especially in Phuket and Pattaya. And 90% of them are not tourists! Mostly rogue people! Buying illegal ED visas to stay in Thailand for years and being involved in all kinds of illegal activities.. Do you equate this with this guy drowning? Disgusting! 1 2 3
Soupdragon Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 1 hour ago, stevenl said: Why do you presume they have not been supplied? Lived here a long time and never seen or heard of one being used. I stand corrected if you know different ?
Popular Post Taboo2 Posted June 17, 2024 Popular Post Posted June 17, 2024 I could care less about this man. He was warned and put the lives of those Thai lifeguards at risk. Such is life when you ignore warning signs. 3 2
transam Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 1 minute ago, Taboo2 said: I could care less about this man. He was warned and put the lives of those Thai lifeguards at risk. Such is life when you ignore warning signs. Yes, and others want to blame Thai folk...🥴 1 1
hotchilli Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 2 hours ago, webfact said: A Russian man tragically drowned on June 16th after swimming in rough seas at Surin Beach in Phuket, defying a red flag warning signalling dangerous conditions. Just can't help some people.... 1
Peabody Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 3 minutes ago, Taboo2 said: I could care less about this man. So you DO care??
WorriedNoodle Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 1 hour ago, Hakuna Matata said: R.I.P. Having said this, way too many Russians now in Thailand, especially in Phuket and Pattaya. So you are advocating a culling? 1
Popular Post Captain Flack Posted June 17, 2024 Popular Post Posted June 17, 2024 A number of bickering posts removed. Please try to discuss the topic and not each other. 1 2
Srikcir Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 3 hours ago, Gottfrid said: it looks like they just let him go on Why couldn't they just go out and stop him before he was in peril? Fine him.
stevenl Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 3 hours ago, Soupdragon said: Lived here a long time and never seen or heard of one being used. I stand corrected if you know different ? In quite a few places they're present. E g. Outside the small big c at rawai beach Some time ago I checked, but must admit I didn't check recently.
Tropicalevo Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 1 hour ago, Srikcir said: Why couldn't they just go out and stop him before he was in peril? Fine him. Are you serious? The life guards have zero authority to stop someone going into the water, never mind fining anyone. 1 1
Tropicalevo Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 3 hours ago, Soupdragon said: Lived here a long time and never seen or heard of one being used. I stand corrected if you know different ? There was a recent case of a first responder at the scene of an accident (motorbike?) and his AED failed to work. However manual resuscitation revived her and they shipped her off to hospital. He saved her life. Sorry, cannot remember if it was printed here or in the BP.
Srikcir Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 1 minute ago, Tropicalevo said: Are you serious? The life guards have zero authority to stop someone going into the water, never mind fining anyone. Are you serious? They can be given such authority when life is believed in danger. Just like lifeguards can on their own initiative run out to a struggling swimmer to pull him into shore without his permission.
Georgealbert Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 Have seen a few ambulances in pattaya area recently, carrying and using, automatic chest compression machines, which are designed to help achieve and maintain, the circulation of blood/oxygen circulating to the critical organs. 2
steven100 Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 oh dear ' oh well .... send him back to Vodivostof 1
steven100 Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 3 hours ago, Taboo2 said: I could care less about this man. He was warned and put the lives of those Thai lifeguards at risk. Such is life when you ignore warning signs. agree .... If one chooses to ignore safety rules and regs' then don't expect rescue personnel to come rushing .... your putting sensible lives at risk because of your stupidity. 1
Gottfrid Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 2 hours ago, Srikcir said: Why couldn't they just go out and stop him before he was in peril? Fine him. It would be an option, but in that case I guess they will have to change the law. Today it´s a warning sign with no attachment to the law. Just a recommendation. What I was thinking, was that a lifeguard should have so much common sense so they actually try to stop or hinder a person. They are there to help. Not to pick up dead bodies from water. 🙂
it is what it is Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 6 hours ago, impulse said: I don't advocate swimming under a red flag, but I sure understand the temptation. Especially if I had flown thousands of miles from the tundra back home on my annual 2 week holiday, and the water looked calm (which is misleading under a rip current). That's why red flags are inadequate and there should be live human beings, warning people and explaining why that relatively calm looking water is hazardous. Seems like a reasonable cost of operating a world class tourist beach destination. We'll never see an autopsy, but it would also be interesting to know if the guy drowned, or if he vapor locked from a bad heart while exerting himself in the water. At that age, I suspect either scenario is about as likely. swimming between the flags works well in other countries, people need to educate themselves and use their common sense.
Ctkong Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 8 hours ago, MalcolmB said: There is no government funded ambulances in Thailand. They are local volunteer rescuers and are self funded from donations. Or local hospitals. i just paid for an alternator for a volunteer ambulance. The staff go down to the local temple who give them food that was donated to the monks in the morning. i am sure if you would like to buy automated external defibrillators for them it would be very welcome. Since they are relatively cheap and all. Cost AED is around US$1500 to 2500. Not relatively cheap at all.
Baz Erckens Posted June 17, 2024 Posted June 17, 2024 10 hours ago, Hakuna Matata said: R.I.P. Having said this, way too many Russians now in Thailand, especially in Phuket and Pattaya. And 90% of them are not tourists! Mostly rogue people! Buying illegal ED visas to stay in Thailand for years and being involved in all kinds of illegal activities.. Everyday another news with either some badly behaving russian, criminal russian, accident causing russian, rules and regulations ignoring russian, drowning russian ... 1
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