newbee2022 Posted Friday at 01:33 AM Share Posted Friday at 01:33 AM Hurrah !!!!! Labour 410 Tories  131 Cameron, May, Truss, Boris, Sunak....after all these losers I hope for the better. 🤗  1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfd101 Posted Friday at 01:35 AM Share Posted Friday at 01:35 AM Mmmmm, well clearly the Tories deserved to lose. Â The future is yet to be revealed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted Friday at 02:23 AM Share Posted Friday at 02:23 AM Fantastic!  1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retarius Posted Friday at 06:43 AM Share Posted Friday at 06:43 AM Just think....a new cabinet....anchored by decent people Rayner, Reeves and Starmer. I feel the honeymoon will be short lived though....and in any change there are winners and losers. To date in history the poor have always lost except for a spell after the war and during Harold Wilson's tenure....what I am sad about is 'growth' and pursuing growth as an objective. Governments used to have as their objective 'full employment' but Thatcher changed the objective to the never ending obsession of GDP growth....why? Well here's the secret....all of the profits from GDP growth go into the few obscenely wealthy member of the elite. They pay no taxes and threaten to leave any time reasonable changes are made to the tax code. The change that is needed is to get back good and decent lives of ordinary humans as the objective of government. The feral wealthy can fend for themselves. What Britain needs to do is to say no to child hunger; say no to homelessness; say no to public service cuts for disabled people and the elderly; and say yes for tax increases for businesses and the wealthy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted Friday at 06:45 AM Share Posted Friday at 06:45 AM 2 minutes ago, retarius said: Well here's the secret....all of the profits from GDP growth go into the few obscenely wealthy member of the elite. They pay no taxes and threaten to leave any time reasonable changes are made to the tax code. Â Â Â What are the names of those people ? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfd101 Posted Friday at 07:17 AM Share Posted Friday at 07:17 AM (edited) I see Rees-Mogg lost his seat. Oh dear! I am so sad. Â And Liz Ms Trust. Ha ha. Edited Friday at 07:19 AM by mfd101 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Denim Posted Friday at 07:27 AM Popular Post Share Posted Friday at 07:27 AM 5 minutes ago, mfd101 said: I see Rees-Mogg lost his seat. Oh dear! I am so sad. Â And Liz Ms Trust. Ha ha. Â So did ' secret squirrel ' Good riddence too. Â Â 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sungod Posted Friday at 08:17 AM Share Posted Friday at 08:17 AM 1 hour ago, mfd101 said: see Rees-Mogg lost his seat. Â But you get Farage as a trade off 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfd101 Posted Friday at 08:59 AM Share Posted Friday at 08:59 AM 40 minutes ago, sungod said: Â But you get Farage as a trade off Farage is more interesting & amusing. And at least he's part of the C21st. Â R-M is just a ridiculous anachronism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgegeorgia Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago Please ! Please ! Can I ask respectfully on here that in the future years none of you "British " people ( and usually I use the word "Poms" but apparently thats now offensive and you don't want to be known as that) Please...don't whinge & complaint about immigration to your Country!!!  You voted them in ...and then act like you didn't know ....."oh I didn't know that Guvnor " you say with a confused look on your face 😮  1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgegeorgia Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago On 7/5/2024 at 5:27 PM, Denim said: Â So did ' secret squirrel ' Good riddence too. Â Â I hope they bring in massive amounts of immigration to the UKÂ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 10 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said: I hope they bring in massive amounts of immigration to the UKÂ Â Any particular reason . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbee2022 Posted 20 hours ago Author Share Posted 20 hours ago On 7/5/2024 at 1:43 PM, retarius said: their objective 'full employment' but Thatcher changed the objective to the never ending obsession of GDP growth....why? Well here's the secret....all of the profits from GDP growth go into the few obscenely wealthy member of the xxx That's not quite right: Every govt wherever in the world needs a growth to pay back loans and interest rates. As long economy is blooming nobody is complaining. However, with a downturn of economy and no growth but recession every govt will have to cut expenses or rise taxes. It's easy to understand I hope?😳 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfd101 Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago (edited) 44 minutes ago, newbee2022 said: However, with a downturn of economy and no growth but recession every govt will have to cut expenses or rise taxes. And what government anywhere in the world actually ever 'cut expenses' (ie reduced the budget for the next year to less than available revenue and stuck to it)? Â Hasn't happened in living memory. Too hard. The squeals - ignorant & hypocritical - from the great unwashed (previously complaining about their taxes) would be more than any politician could bear. Edited 19 hours ago by mfd101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbee2022 Posted 18 hours ago Author Share Posted 18 hours ago 1 hour ago, mfd101 said: And what government anywhere in the world actually ever 'cut expenses' (ie reduced the budget for the next year to less than available revenue and stuck to it)? Â Hasn't happened in living memory. Too hard. The squeals - ignorant & hypocritical - from the great unwashed (previously complaining about their taxes) would be more than any politician could bear. UK many EU countries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 19 hours ago, georgegeorgia said: I hope they bring in massive amounts of immigration to the UK  So do most people who hate Britain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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