Fifth Congressional Democrat Publicly Calls for Biden to Step Down

[susanlea]

17 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I'm no Harris fan but the vast majority of Americans don't follow politics very closely.

Therefore I do think Harris who hasn't been much in the news as VP has an opportunity to introduce herself anew to the American public in a positive light.

Her weird speaking style won't appeal and polls put her chances low.

 

 

[susanlea]

20 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

She would absolutely blow away any opponent as you saw in the original debates, she's very sharp and it's likely her IQ is at least 50 points higher than Trump. I don't like her at all but she is smart. 

Trump is 20 higher than Biden. You must have Kamala at 150 

[thaibeachlovers]

On 7/9/2024 at 2:46 PM, frank83628 said:

just couldnt help yourself aye..but but Trump

Yeah, they are so obsessed with Trump that they keep talking about him in threads that are nothing to do with Trump, like this one.

Edited July 10 by thaibeachlovers

[thaibeachlovers]

14 minutes ago, susanlea said:

Her weird speaking style won't appeal and polls put her chances low.

 

 

IMO Harris doesn't have any positives to present to the voters, and she failed at her job to sort the border. Just what does she have as a reason for the voters to choose her- I can think of nonthing at all?

[Yellowtail]

6 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

IMO Harris doesn't have any positives to present to the voters, and she failed at her job to sort the border. Just what does she have as a reason for the voters to choose her- I can think of nonthing at all?

She had great success with the border. The left wants the border open, and it's open. The ten to twelve million illegals that flooded across the border proves that. 

[spidermike007]

23 minutes ago, susanlea said:

Trump is 20 higher than Biden. You must have Kamala at 150 

That is very amusing. I seriously doubt his IQ is higher than 95. His incoherent word salads are testament to that.

 

However, I do think he is brilliant in one area. Grifting. As a criminal he is an absolute genius. Too bad his intelligence did not extend to negotiations, or trade deals. 

 

I don't like Harris. But, she is far smarter than both of them. Likely 50 IQ points above Trump, who is a dullard. 

Edited July 10 by spidermike007

[frank83628]

25 minutes ago, susanlea said:

Her weird speaking style won't appeal and polls put her chances low.

 

 

she is awful, talks in riddles... what can be..will be, 

[susanlea]

Just now, spidermike007 said:

That is very amusing. I seriously doubt his IQ is higher than 95. His incoherent word salads are testament to that.

 

However, I do think he is brilliant in one area. Grifting. As a criminal he is an absolute genius. Too bad his intelligence did not extend to negotiations, or trade deals. 

Biden would be 80, Trump 100. 

[susanlea]

Just now, frank83628 said:

she is awful, talks in riddles... what can be..will be, 

The unburden will be undone 

[spidermike007]

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

Convicted of calling payment of an NDA a legal expense. 

 

Meanwhile, the Bidens have gotten rich in Ukraine, China and the US using their connection to Joe Biden, and VP Biden got the prosecutor that was looking into Biden corruption in Ukraine fired by threatening to withhold funding and later bragged about it.

 

Once in office, President Biden's DOJ slow walked the investigation into Biden corruption until the statutes ran out. 

 

And how about Biden showering with his teenaged daughter? Class act that. 

Even classier was the statement Trump made when Ivanka was 13, that if she was not his daughter he would be dating her. Very elegant. 

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, spidermike007 said:

That is very amusing. I seriously doubt his IQ is higher than 95. His incoherent word salads are testament to that.

 

However, I do think he is brilliant in one area. Grifting. As a criminal he is an absolute genius. Too bad his intelligence did not extend to negotiations, or trade deals. 

Biden and his whole family get wealthy on his one government salary, Trump stays wealthy in real estate and entertainment. but Trump is the "grifter", got it. 

[Yellowtail]

Just now, spidermike007 said:

Even classier was the statement Trump made when Ivanka was 13, that if she was not his daughter he would be dating her. Very elegant. 

So, per you, Trump showering with Ivanka when she was 13 (like Biden did with his daughter) would be more appropriate than making a comment on how hot she was, got it. 

 

That explains a lot. You seem to care a lot about what Trump says, but not a whit about what Biden does. Typical leftist. 

[spidermike007]

Just now, Yellowtail said:

Biden and his whole family get wealthy on his one government salary, Trump stays wealthy in real estate and entertainment. but Trump is the "grifter", got it. 

It is far easier to get wealthy, when you are willing to shaft 1000's of small contractors out of the money they are owed for their hard work. He is a very highly skilled grifter. 

 

During the Atlantic City casino boom in the 1980s, Philadelphia cabinet-builder Edward Friel Jr. landed a $400,000 contract to build the bases for slot machines, registration desks, bars and other cabinets at Harrah's at Trump Plaza.

 

The family cabinetry business, founded in the 1940s by Edward's father, finished its work in 1984 and submitted its final bill to the general contractor for the Trump Organization, the resort's builder.

 

Edward's son, Paul, who was the firm's accountant, still remembers the amount of that bill more than 30 years later: $83,600. The reason? The money never came.

 

'That began the demise of the Edward J. Friel Company...which has been around since my grandfather,' he said.

 

Donald Trump often portrays himself as a savior of the working class who will 'protect your job.' But a USA TODAY NETWORK analysis found he has been involved in more than 3,500 lawsuits over the past three decades — and a large number of those involve ordinary Americans, like the Friels, who say Trump or his companies have refused to pay them.

 

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trumps-trail-of-unpaid-bills/85685206/

 

Of all the real estate and casino deals in Trump’s long career, the Taj arguably sheds the most light on how the would-be U.S. president handles crises. It was his biggest gamble, the “eighth wonder of the world,” as he dubbed it. And when it went south, his moves to avoid a financial hit to his empire hobbled many small businesses with little cushion to absorb the blow.

 

After the Taj opened in April 1990, the self-anointed “King of Debt” owed $70 million to 253 contractors employing thousands who built the domes and minarets, put up the glass and drywall, laid the pipes and installed everything from chandeliers to bathroom fixtures. A year later, when the casino collapsed into bankruptcy, those owed the most got only 33 cents in cash for each dollar owed, with promises of another 50 cents later. It took years to get the rest, assuming the companies survived long enough to collect.

 

https://apnews.com/article/10bbe40a86774bac9ad1fbd3a936c808

[frank83628]

6 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Even classier was the statement Trump made when Ivanka was 13, that if she was not his daughter he would be dating her. Very elegant. 

however Biden was showering with his. (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ashley-biden-leaked-diary-accusation/) fact check included

[thaibeachlovers]

13 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

I don't like Harris. But, she is far smarter than both of them. Likely 50 IQ points above Trump, who is a dullard. 

Being a horrible person beats being intelligent every time.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, spidermike007 said:

It is far easier to get wealthy, when you are willing to shaft 1000's of small contractors out of the money they are owed for their hard work. He is a very highly skilled grifter. 

 

During the Atlantic City casino boom in the 1980s, Philadelphia cabinet-builder Edward Friel Jr. landed a $400,000 contract to build the bases for slot machines, registration desks, bars and other cabinets at Harrah's at Trump Plaza.

 

The family cabinetry business, founded in the 1940s by Edward's father, finished its work in 1984 and submitted its final bill to the general contractor for the Trump Organization, the resort's builder.

 

Edward's son, Paul, who was the firm's accountant, still remembers the amount of that bill more than 30 years later: $83,600. The reason? The money never came.

 

'That began the demise of the Edward J. Friel Company...which has been around since my grandfather,' he said.

 

Donald Trump often portrays himself as a savior of the working class who will 'protect your job.' But a USA TODAY NETWORK analysis found he has been involved in more than 3,500 lawsuits over the past three decades — and a large number of those involve ordinary Americans, like the Friels, who say Trump or his companies have refused to pay them.

 

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trumps-trail-of-unpaid-bills/85685206/

 

Of all the real estate and casino deals in Trump’s long career, the Taj arguably sheds the most light on how the would-be U.S. president handles crises. It was his biggest gamble, the “eighth wonder of the world,” as he dubbed it. And when it went south, his moves to avoid a financial hit to his empire hobbled many small businesses with little cushion to absorb the blow.

 

After the Taj opened in April 1990, the self-anointed “King of Debt” owed $70 million to 253 contractors employing thousands who built the domes and minarets, put up the glass and drywall, laid the pipes and installed everything from chandeliers to bathroom fixtures. A year later, when the casino collapsed into bankruptcy, those owed the most got only 33 cents in cash for each dollar owed, with promises of another 50 cents later. It took years to get the rest, assuming the companies survived long enough to collect.

 

https://apnews.com/article/10bbe40a86774bac9ad1fbd3a936c808

Do you even understand what off topic is?

That entire post is

[thaibeachlovers]

13 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Even classier was the statement Trump made when Ivanka was 13, that if she was not his daughter he would be dating her. Very elegant. 

[Eric Loh]

9 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Even classier was the statement Trump made when Ivanka was 13, that if she was not his daughter he would be dating her. Very elegant. 

All his perverted obsession with Ivanka was revealed in former Trump adminstrator Miles Taylor's book Blowback. A warning to Save Democracy. He made lewd comments about Ivanka and fantasized about having sex with her. Disgusting father and human being. 

[spidermike007]

5 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

however Biden was showering with his. (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ashley-biden-leaked-diary-accusation/) fact check included

Was she 5 years old, or 13 as you alleged? 

 

Furthermore, in her letter to the judge, Ashley Biden wrote that others had "once-grossly" misinterpreted her "once-private" writings and thrown "false accusations that defame my character and those of the people I love."

Biden also said that her "innermost thoughts" recorded in the diary had been "constantly distorted and manipulated," and assumed that the point of the theft was to "peddle grotesque lies by distorting my stream-of-consciousness thoughts."

Crucially, while Snopes stated the content published online was authentic, the meaning and significance of what Biden wrote has been interpreted without her consent, without additional context, and, as has been proved in court, was made public as part of a scheme to enrich the people who stole it.

 

https://www.newsweek.com/ashley-biden-diary-confirmed-what-more-do-we-now-know-1900509

[Yellowtail]

8 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

It is far easier to get wealthy, when you are willing to shaft 1000's of small contractors out of the money they are owed for their hard work. He is a very highly skilled grifter. 

 

During the Atlantic City casino boom in the 1980s, Philadelphia cabinet-builder Edward Friel Jr. landed a $400,000 contract to build the bases for slot machines, registration desks, bars and other cabinets at Harrah's at Trump Plaza.

 

The family cabinetry business, founded in the 1940s by Edward's father, finished its work in 1984 and submitted its final bill to the general contractor for the Trump Organization, the resort's builder.

 

Edward's son, Paul, who was the firm's accountant, still remembers the amount of that bill more than 30 years later: $83,600. The reason? The money never came.

 

'That began the demise of the Edward J. Friel Company...which has been around since my grandfather,' he said.

 

Donald Trump often portrays himself as a savior of the working class who will 'protect your job.' But a USA TODAY NETWORK analysis found he has been involved in more than 3,500 lawsuits over the past three decades — and a large number of those involve ordinary Americans, like the Friels, who say Trump or his companies have refused to pay them.

 

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trumps-trail-of-unpaid-bills/85685206/

 

Of all the real estate and casino deals in Trump’s long career, the Taj arguably sheds the most light on how the would-be U.S. president handles crises. It was his biggest gamble, the “eighth wonder of the world,” as he dubbed it. And when it went south, his moves to avoid a financial hit to his empire hobbled many small businesses with little cushion to absorb the blow.

 

After the Taj opened in April 1990, the self-anointed “King of Debt” owed $70 million to 253 contractors employing thousands who built the domes and minarets, put up the glass and drywall, laid the pipes and installed everything from chandeliers to bathroom fixtures. A year later, when the casino collapsed into bankruptcy, those owed the most got only 33 cents in cash for each dollar owed, with promises of another 50 cents later. It took years to get the rest, assuming the companies survived long enough to collect.

 

https://apnews.com/article/10bbe40a86774bac9ad1fbd3a936c808

Where are all these thousands of contractors that were cheated and tens of thousands of disgruntled employees?

 

But just to be clear, you think it's more acceptable for Biden to have showered with his teenaged daughter, than it was for Trump to jokingly comment on how hot his daughter was. Got it. 

 

Do you have a daughter? Why not ask her what she thinks. 

[frank83628]

11 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Was she 5 years old, or 13 as you alleged? 

 

Furthermore, in her letter to the judge, Ashley Biden wrote that others had "once-grossly" misinterpreted her "once-private" writings and thrown "false accusations that defame my character and those of the people I love."

Biden also said that her "innermost thoughts" recorded in the diary had been "constantly distorted and manipulated," and assumed that the point of the theft was to "peddle grotesque lies by distorting my stream-of-consciousness thoughts."

Crucially, while Snopes stated the content published online was authentic, the meaning and significance of what Biden wrote has been interpreted without her consent, without additional context, and, as has been proved in court, was made public as part of a scheme to enrich the people who stole it.

 

https://www.newsweek.com/ashley-biden-diary-confirmed-what-more-do-we-now-know-1900509

i didn't say she was any age, just that he took showers with her, the word 'inappropriate' has been used before which would suggest she was older than would be classed as acceptable. but it's off topic so will leave it.

was made public as part of a scheme to enrich the people who stole it.

so in reply to this one could argue.

 Hunters laptop story was suppressed..in order to assist Biedn in the election? (but again off topic)

[illisdean]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

IMO Harris doesn't have any positives to present to the voters, and she failed at her job to sort the border. Just what does she have as a reason for the voters to choose her- I can think of nonthing at all?

Actually, she can speak (albeit in rhymes and childlike riddles), seems to be able walk while she speaks, doesn't seem to stumble, trip and fall like Biden. So heck, she does have some positive attributes suitable perhaps for employment at Walmart. LOL

 

She has failed in spectacular fashion as Bidens "border czar" and is generally considered as the definition of unelectable. Another example of reliance on the flawed DEI ideology so mainstream in feckless and failing democratic strategies.

Edited July 10 by illisdean

[Yellowtail]

10 minutes ago, illisdean said:

Actually, she can speak (albeit in rhymes and childlike riddles), seems to be able walk while she speaks, doesn't seem to stumble, trip and fall like Biden. So heck, she does have some positive attributes suitable perhaps for employment at Walmart. LOL

 

She has failed in spectacular fashion as Bidens "border czar" and is generally considered as the definition of unelectable. Another example of reliance on the flawed DEI ideology so mainstream in feckless and failing democratic strategies.

At this point, I think she has to be better than Biden. She's not terribly bright, but she's not a moron, and while she has always been a big phony, she might well come into her own as the President and surprise us. 

 

[spidermike007]

3 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Where are all these thousands of contractors that were cheated and tens of thousands of disgruntled employees?

 

But just to be clear, you think it's more acceptable for Biden to have showered with his teenaged daughter, than it was for Trump to jokingly comment on how hot his daughter was. Got it. 

 

Do you have a daughter? Why not ask her what she thinks. 

They were in court up until the time he became president, at that time he had 3,600 lawsuits pending against him, which is probably the most any American has ever had in the history of the nation. 

 

But, you are certainly welcome to conveniently forget those facts, facts don't really matter anyway, do they? 

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, spidermike007 said:

They were in court up until the time he became president, at that time he had 3,600 lawsuits pending against him, which is probably the most any American has ever had in the history of the nation. 

 

But, you are certainly welcome to conveniently forget those facts, facts don't really matter anyway, do they? 

So, the only "fact" you can come up with is that he had lawsuits pending against him, not that anyone was cheated, got it. 

 

Meanwhile, 

 

Meanwhile, the Bidens have gotten rich in Ukraine, China and the US using their connection to Joe Biden, and VP Biden got the prosecutor that was looking into Biden corruption in Ukraine fired by threatening to withhold funding and later bragged about it.

 

Then, once in office, President Biden's DOJ slow walked the investigation into Biden corruption until the statutes ran out. 

 

And you still think it's more acceptable for Biden to have showered with his daughter, than it was for Trump to jokingly comment on how hot his daughter was?  

 

But you are certainly welcome to conveniently forget those facts, facts don't really matter anyway, do they? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[jerrymahoney]

NYTimes this AM:

 

Pelosi is the most senior Democrat to signal he could still drop out. Here’s the latest.
President Biden on Wednesday faced a fresh wave of pressure to end his campaign or rethink his decision to run for re-election, as Democrats from Hollywood to Capitol Hill aired grave concerns that he is set to lose to former President Donald J. Trump in November and drag his party’s chance of controlling Congress down with him.

 

Representative Nancy Pelosi of California, the former House speaker and a longtime Biden ally, gave the strongest public signal yet that Democrats are still divided on Mr. Biden’s insistence that he is staying in the race, saying that “time is running short” for him to make a decision.

 

Also

 

ABC anchor apologizes: The ABC News anchor George Stephanopoulos was surreptitiously recorded on Tuesday saying that he did not believe that Mr. Biden could handle another term in office. Mr. Stephanopoulos publicly apologized later, saying he shouldn’t have “responded to a question from a passerby.”

 

Biden will sit for another major network interview on Monday with NBC.

 

The president will tape an interview with the NBC News anchor Lester Holt on Monday in Austin, Texas, the network said on Wednesday. NBC plans to air the interview “in its entirety” that evening at 9 p.m. Eastern, a similar prime-time placement as ABC’s interview with Mr. Biden that aired last Friday.

 

Mr. Biden has been under pressure from allies to appear in more unscripted settings with journalists, to show that his poor performance at last month’s debate — where he at times struggled to deliver cogent statements — was, as he has argued, merely one “bad night.”

 

In its announcement on Wednesday, NBC took pains to say that it would also release “the full interview and unedited transcript” of Mr. Biden’s appearance with Mr. Holt. The transcript of Mr. Stephanopoulos’s interview became the subject of a kerfuffle over the weekend, after the White House urged the network to change the word “goodest” to “good as” in its initial transcript of Mr. Biden’s remarks; after its own editorial review, ABC agreed.

 

Edited July 10 by jerrymahoney

[thaibeachlovers]

14 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

They were in court up until the time he became president, at that time he had 3,600 lawsuits pending against him, which is probably the most any American has ever had in the history of the nation. 

 

But, you are certainly welcome to conveniently forget those facts, facts don't really matter anyway, do they? 

Let me get this straight. 3,600 people did business with the same man, yet never had any idea that he shafted contractors? Is that what you are saying?

IMO it means that 3,600 people were a bit dim, unless Trump had some ability to hide his business practices from everyone that wanted to work for him.

[thaibeachlovers]

56 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Mr. Biden has been under pressure from allies to appear in more unscripted settings with journalists, to show that his poor performance at last month’s debate — where he at times struggled to deliver cogent statements — was, as he has argued, merely one “bad night.”

This is straying into "Bizarro" territory.

A man with the ability to use nuclear weapons has no excuse for having a "bad night", PERIOD.

PS, it's not like it was just "one night", as his performance has been under question for some months now.

[jerrymahoney]

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

This is straying into "Bizarro" territory.

A man with the ability to use nuclear weapons has no excuse for having a "bad night", PERIOD.

PS, it's not like it was just "one night", as his performance has been under question for some months now.

Even if he were deemed 'OK' today, this is a 4-year job starting JAN 2025

[impulse]

19 hours ago, frank83628 said:

she is awful, talks in riddles... what can be..will be, 

 

Unburdened by everything she's screwed up in the past.