Trump Rally in Butler PA

[jas007]

On 7/18/2024 at 11:03 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

It may be odd to you, but some of us, like myself, have seen enough death to not react with horror. Perhaps she returned from a war zone or had been in one.

Someone posting on X has identified the woman as an Assistant FBI Director, first hired in 1999.  

[Harsh Jones]

3 hours ago, jas007 said:

Someone posting on X has identified the woman as an Assistant FBI Director, first hired in 1999.  

I've seen that too. The nose matches , but other features don't. Then again , she's wearing a hat and glasses. Its possible that it is her , but not conclusive 

[jas007]

3 hours ago, Harsh Jones said:

I've seen that too. The nose matches , but other features don't. Then again , she's wearing a hat and glasses. Its possible that it is her , but not conclusive 

That’s why I didn’t say much here.  People can go read about it and draw their own conclusions.

 

 

[morrobay]

16 hours ago, novacova said:

 Does this guy use a bolt action? No, 5 round mag there Hoss.

 

Ok sure the modern semi auto sniper would be better especially for urban warfare. But my original comparison was between an AR 15 type and a bolt action .30 something cal. rifle. By the way is that a .308 ?

 

[Harsh Jones]

There's some interesting info in this guy's opening statements. 

 

 

[morrobay]

We shall see how this works out for them in 2025

 

[Harsh Jones]

 

 

[Jingthing]

35 minutes ago, Harsh Jones said:

 

 

No credibility. 

Obvious misinformation.

Oversight Project.

Founded by the Heritage Foundation. 

Creators of Project 2025 the blueprint for a one party right wing extremist authoritarian dictatorship.

Connections indeed 

[impulse]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

No credibility. 

Obvious misinformation.

Oversight Project.

Founded by the Heritage Foundation. 

Creators of Project 2025 the blueprint for a one party right wing extremist authoritarian dictatorship.

Connections indeed 

 

I don't guess you've looked at the maps and the data they published? 

 

I've never encountered a group that was so determined to stay ignorant by refusing to even look at anything that the MSM didn't spoon feed them.

 

 

[rabas]

On 7/18/2024 at 9:36 AM, morrobay said:

Because an inside job would have sniper's with bolt action rifles. Not some whacked out kid with an AR 15

Unless the kid was the patsy and the real sniper's were behind him. But if that had been the case they would have gotten him .  So far I see a series of events all over that can be from incompetence.  So unless something comes up that is concrete tangible for conspiracy. Just connecting dots on a series of events that are from massive incompetence is not enough. Having said that there certainly seems that there was very reckless disregard for Trumps safety. 

 

You need to go through this acoustic analysis carefully. Love to know what you think. It compares two video sound tracks, one near the stage and one near the vicinity of the shooter's building. It finds two sets of shots, of 3 and 5 shots with distinct patterns and acoustic signatures, one with echos and the other without. These are followed later by one last distinct shot from an SS agent who shot the gunman.

Edited July 23 by rabas

[rabas]

On 7/19/2024 at 3:18 PM, novacova said:

 Does this guy use a bolt action? No, 5 round mag there Hoss.

 

 

Click and zoom this comparison of a bolt and semi-auto sniper rifle. 

https://gtitraining.org/news-516-semi-auto-vs-bolt-action-rifle.htm

[morrobay]

6 hours ago, rabas said:

 

Click and zoom this comparison of a bolt and semi-auto sniper rifle. 

https://gtitraining.org/news-516-semi-auto-vs-bolt-action-rifle.htm

This is link from @novacova  about half are bolt actions. IMO all sniper rifles should be .30-06 and up. Don't understand all the .308 hype. That round is just a glorified .30-30.  

https://www.ssbcrack.com/2024/02/11-best-sniper-rifles-in-the-world.html

[morrobay]

7 hours ago, rabas said:

 

You need to go through this acoustic analysis carefully. Love to know what you think. It compares two video sound tracks, one near the stage and one near the vicinity of the shooter's building. It finds two sets of shots, of 3 and 5 shots with distinct patterns and acoustic signatures, one with echos and the other without. These are followed later by one last distinct shot from an SS agent who shot the gunman.

Yes it sounds like two rifles. So  Crooks fired 3 times? Then that should be easy to verify with spent shells next to him on roof. This guy's venal explanations are very confusing: He has shooters inside the building below Crooks, and behind him, near stage ?. Best let someone else work the audiograms out.

[morrobay]

This report says 8 shell casings were found on roof next to Crooks 

[susanlea]

Hard to believe a lone 20yo would do this unassisted. Also if you were SS wouldnt you check the trees and that building first and leave officers there? The whole thing is suss.

[Harsh Jones]

On 7/22/2024 at 3:16 PM, Jingthing said:

No credibility. 

Obvious misinformation.

Oversight Project.

Founded by the Heritage Foundation. 

Creators of Project 2025 the blueprint for a one party right wing extremist authoritarian dictatorship.

Connections indeed 

The Heritage foundation is a mainstream conservative Republican arm and has been involved in picking presidents for decades. 

And you think they just make up complete lies and fabrications out of whole cloth BUT at the same time , you believe the govt never lies about anything and you believe literally every official story and narrative from the govt. Oh the irony.

 

Nord stream 2 was bombed by 4 men and 2 women on a pleasure cruise. A loner with a gun and a ladder got a 1/4 inch away from assassinating Trump AND we have yet to find a motive....hmmmm 

[Harsh Jones]

15 hours ago, susanlea said:

Hard to believe a lone 20yo would do this unassisted. Also if you were SS wouldnt you check the trees and that building first and leave officers there? The whole thing is suss.

Anyone who's involved in the field of security cannot believe it was just simple negligence. It is a cartoonish level narrative to these ppl. 

 

 

[Jingthing]

One shooter.

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/07/posts-baselessly-suggest-others-were-involved-in-trumps-assassination-attempt/

[susanlea]

6 hours ago, Jingthing said:

One shooter.

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/07/posts-baselessly-suggest-others-were-involved-in-trumps-assassination-attempt/

Yeah but the whole thing is suss like jfk.

[susanlea]

7 hours ago, Harsh Jones said:

Anyone who's involved in the field of security cannot believe it was just simple negligence. It is a cartoonish level narrative to these ppl. 

 

 

The kid appeared in a Black Rock commercial. Was he funded by them? Was security paid off? 

[radiochaser]

On 7/19/2024 at 9:16 PM, morrobay said:

Ok sure the modern semi auto sniper would be better especially for urban warfare. But my original comparison was between an AR 15 type and a bolt action .30 something cal. rifle. By the way is that a .308 ?

 

I asked someone about the rifles used by Secret Service and was told, that they were .338 caliber.   Which I am guessing would be the .338 Winchester Magnum.   I think, based on vague memories of what I have read, that U.S. and Canadian military snipers also use rifles chambered in this caliber.   

[radiochaser]

On 7/15/2024 at 1:30 AM, Old Croc said:

 

The shooter was a registered Republican.

 

A nutcase with a Republican endorsed AR15

The shooter donated money to ActBlue, a democrat organization that raises money to get people to vote democrat.  Not exactly a republican supporting organization. 

I have read a suggestion that he may have registered as a republican so that he could vote in a republican primary, to help choose a person less likely to win against a democrat opponent.   Something that was repeatedly written about on the internet by democrats who did that.   After the republican primaries, those same people went back to the voter registrars and registered as a democrat again. 

[thaibeachlovers]

On 7/18/2024 at 7:12 PM, jas007 said:

 If I had to guess, I’d say she’s never been anywhere near a war zone.  Anyway, war zone or not, it seems odd that shots are ringing out and the first thing she does is start taking a video. 

Isn't that what most people do now when they see something happening, like a fight or a robbery?

 

Are you psychic?

[Old Croc]

8 hours ago, radiochaser said:

The shooter donated money to ActBlue, a democrat organization that raises money to get people to vote democrat.  Not exactly a republican supporting organization. 

I have read a suggestion that he may have registered as a republican so that he could vote in a republican primary, to help choose a person less likely to win against a democrat opponent.   Something that was repeatedly written about on the internet by democrats who did that.   After the republican primaries, those same people went back to the voter registrars and registered as a democrat again. 

Rubbish. Citing one aspect of his life and highlighting it above all else he was, may convince a MAGA moron, but is a poor ploy for someone with a brain.

 

Go and vote for your god figure, but don't use my posts to try to convince others with your lies.  

[radiochaser]

On 9/29/2024 at 10:22 PM, Old Croc said:

Rubbish. Citing one aspect of his life and highlighting it above all else he was, may convince a MAGA moron, but is a poor ploy for someone with a brain.

 

Go and vote for your god figure, but don't use my posts to try to convince others with your lies.  

Oh no!   I have been called a moron!!   My life is devastated!   What ever will I do from now on??

 

The agony!

 

Who is my god figure?   

Which part of my post is a lie?   Please highlight or bold those parts for me.

"The shooter donated money to ActBlue, a democrat organization that raises money to get people to vote democrat.  Not exactly a republican supporting organization. 

I have read a suggestion that he may have registered as a republican so that he could vote in a republican primary, to help choose a person less likely to win against a democrat opponent.   Something that was repeatedly written about on the internet by democrats who did that.   After the republican primaries, those same people went back to the voter registrars and registered as a democrat again. "