Why are there so many farang lefties in Thailand

[Bday Prang]

19 minutes ago, SunsetT said:

Most of my friends are Far Right Rednecks! I'm the only one I know in Thailand who is left leaning.

So they are not really your friends, Admit it ,   You as a lefty consider it your duty to convert them, so to you they are a work in progress. To them you are just their bitch, sorry

[Geir Rasch]

On 8/1/2024 at 10:40 AM, susanlea said:

Hitler was a socialist so most people were to his right.

Here is a lack of education. Hitler was for sure not a socialist, he was a national socialist, another word for fascism. Ask yourself why he did a manhunt on communists if he was a socialist. That would make no sense!

[SunsetT]

56 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

So they are not really your friends, Admit it ,   You as a lefty consider it your duty to convert them, so to you they are a work in progress. To them you are just their bitch, sorry

I have no choice as there are no Lefties around 555. We know each other pretty well so we just stay off of certain subjects when drinking together...555. I don't get your last comment; sounds like the US speciality of school playground name calling. Don't worry you will mature and evolve eventually... Sorry.

[Paris333]

The real problem of every society is socialism and not the two opposite sites fascism or communism.

Usually ....socialism governments "socialize" the debt of overdebt Entrepreneurs .............

[GypsyT]

When I moved to the States I started to vote BLUE thinking it was Republican party and RED was commies.

 

I still stick to Blue.....

 

[Hummin]

41 minutes ago, Geir Rasch said:

Here is a lack of education. Hitler was for sure not a socialist, he was a national socialist, another word for fascism. Ask yourself why he did a manhunt on communists if he was a socialist. That would make no sense!

Even the labour parties in Europe investigated, prosecuted and  jailed communist and kept surveillance on them for a long time all the way up to the 80'ies. Being a communist and a socialist is not the same

[Bday Prang]

2 hours ago, SunsetT said:

I have no choice as there are no Lefties around 555. We know each other pretty well so we just stay off of certain subjects when drinking together...555. I don't get your last comment; sounds like the US speciality of school playground name calling. Don't worry you will mature and evolve eventually... Sorry.

Their will be other lefties around, they are everywhere, however they just don't like you 555

[Bday Prang]

2 hours ago, Geir Rasch said:

Here is a lack of education. Hitler was for sure not a socialist, he was a national socialist, another word for fascism. Ask yourself why he did a manhunt on communists if he was a socialist. That would make no sense!

Made no sense to invade Russia either, as it turned out

[Hummin]

7 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

Made no sense to invade Russia either, as it turned out

Hitler was a product of the time, so was the people, and the same for Trump and the right wing Maga  cult.

 

Communist Russia was a great threat as well the Europe chaos after the depression squishing Germany for its resources after ww1

 

Edited August 2 by Hummin

[Bday Prang]

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

Hitler was a product of the time, so was the people, and the same for Trump and the right wing Maga  cult.

 

 

I would say everybody is a product of their time,  nothing to do with left or right, no need to mention Trump

[Jingthing]

4 hours ago, Geir Rasch said:

Here is a lack of education. Hitler was for sure not a socialist, he was a national socialist, another word for fascism. Ask yourself why he did a manhunt on communists if he was a socialist. That would make no sense!

More like willful ignorance. The same kind of knuckleheads who insist the US isn't a democracy.

[Nick Carter icp]

16 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

More like willful ignorance. The same kind of knuckleheads who insist the US isn't a democracy.

 

  Wasn't the USA a fascist regime when Trump was President ?

[simple1]

8 hours ago, Dave5710 said:

Because the most prominent American news network in almost every hotel and establishment there is CNN.  They promote a completely biased Leftist agenda.  The Left controls most of mainstream media in the U.S. as well, so people rarely see real unbiased news reports involving politics.  

 

So who, in your opinion, are "real unbiased news reports involving politics" available in Thailand?

[susanlea]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

More like willful ignorance. The same kind of knuckleheads who insist the US isn't a democracy.

"Everyone I dislike is fascist"

[Cryingdick]

Thailands lax visa laws have always made it a magnet for losers and wack jobs on both sides. There are more lefties as they tend to hate their home countries is my guess. Many of which leave with not much to their name and end up in places like Thailand.

 

you will for example find many liberal expats in places like Japan. However the vetting is stringent and the most extreme fringe lunatic component usually doesn't qualify to live there. The common theme for a better class of expat isn't the requirement that they must actually provide something useful to the country they wish to reside in.

 

Your rabid right wing types tend to have a reason to go somewhere. This could be the military ir the church or whatever, liberals also like their servants and being an notch up the totem pole. In Thailand it's massages and eating out and whatever else. So to a degree it's is because it is easier to exploit the education and economic status of the lower rung here. Many wouldn't be here if they could do this in some place like LA.

Edited August 2 by Cryingdick

[susanlea]

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Wasn't the USA a fascist regime when Trump was President ?

Fascism is army controlled countries. Amazing these guys don't know the basics. Fascism can be left or right but the early regimes were left. Germany and Italy were left. Thailand was right.

[Danderman123]

11 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Whatever floats your boat. Another trait I've noticed about lefties is they don't have kids but like to tell parents what's appropriate.

Are you JD Vance?

[Danderman123]

2 hours ago, susanlea said:

"Everyone I dislike is fascist"

I dislike all Fascists.

[Danderman123]

2 hours ago, susanlea said:

Germany and Italy were left. Thailand was right.

You really believe the Italian Fascists were leftists?

 

 

[EVENKEEL]

14 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Are you JD Vance?

I'm right again.

[susanlea]

24 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

You really believe the Italian Fascists were leftists?

 

 

Facts say they were. Try reading the facts.

 

https://troymedia.com/viewpoint/mussolini-fascism-more-left-than-right/

 

To quote political commentator Jonah Goldberg, “Mussolini did not move fascism from left to right; he moved it from socialist to populist.” In the process, the Italy he strove to create had much more in common with authoritarian socialism than with free markets and laissez-faire economics.

 

As far as the broader economy was concerned, Mussolini’s fascists were big time interventionists, developing “a huge, state-led industrial sector, which was especially important in banking, steel, shipping, armaments and the supply of hydroelectricity.” Adam Smith’s invisible hand wasn’t the altar at which they worshipped.

Then there’s the famous Mussolini declaration from 1928. By now well into his dictatorship period, he had this to say: “All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.”

Edited August 3 by susanlea

[susanlea]

8 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

I'm right again.

JD Vance sounds like a good whisky. Kamala Harris sounds like cheap wine.

[gamb00ler]

I'm sure the OP never considered this reason.....

 

More lefties post because they understand the world and are willing to interact..... while the righties know deep down that they're wrong and don't want to face the avalanche of corrective responses.

[susanlea]

47 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

I'm sure the OP never considered this reason.....

 

More lefties post because they understand the world and are willing to interact..... while the righties know deep down that they're wrong and don't want to face the avalanche of corrective responses.

Interesting. I've corrected multiple lefties multiple times.

[Geir Rasch]

12 hours ago, Hummin said:

Even the labour parties in Europe investigated, prosecuted and  jailed communist and kept surveillance on them for a long time all the way up to the 80'ies. Being a communist and a socialist is not the same

But there is a big difference between surveillance and arresting/killing people. And the surveillance you are referring to was part of the cold war, which started after wwII.

[Hummin]

2 hours ago, Geir Rasch said:

But there is a big difference between surveillance and arresting/killing people. And the surveillance you are referring to was part of the cold war, which started after wwII.

Communists and other radicalists was a big fear after WW1, with bombs, smaller terror actions as well fires. The red scare I recall.  I have to dig in to the history again, but Im sure you are right, they did not erase the problem alike Hitler Germany,but they didnt really start jailing and killing people on regular basis before the war either? 

Edited August 3 by Hummin

[thecyclist]

16 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

be careful what you wish for ,  you might get weeded out 

There may well be idiots starting one stupid pointless thread after the other,  but the dumbest have to be the ones who waste their time voluntarily working their way through threads that they consider pointless  and then publicly moaning about it , why don't they just walk on by ?  Any ideas?

I sort of agree. My reply was probably poorly worded and framed, and therefore misinterpreted as targeted to the farang community in general. Rather, it was an instant parody of the OP(I certainlywouldn'twork my way through 12 pages of this post), who is one the most prolific and extreme Trumpian nut jobs, with  one fascist trope/tripe after another. I don't think you can be Maga and be a rational, intelligent ,emotionally stable and moral human being at the same time. Most of the Trumpians are just plain dumb and ignorant, some have serious issues of repressed anger, many are viciously racist. Majority probably a combination of all of the above. In comparison with them ,and that is a very low bar, no chance I get weeded.

The intelligentsia are rarely on the far right, the ones that are, are usually power/wealth hungry opportunists, who do and say anything to advance their careers, not genuine fascist ideologues. 

 

[susanlea]

2 minutes ago, thecyclist said:

I sort of agree. My reply was probably poorly worded and framed, and therefore misinterpreted as targeted to the farang community in general. Rather, it was an instant parody of the OP(I certainlywouldn'twork my way through 12 pages of this post), who is one the most prolific and extreme Trumpian nut jobs, with  one fascist trope/tripe after another. I don't think you can be Maga and be a rational, intelligent ,emotionally stable and moral human being at the same time. Most of the Trumpians are just plain dumb and ignorant, some have serious issues of repressed anger, many are viciously racist. Majority probably a combination of all of the above. In comparison with them ,and that is a very low bar, no chance I get weeded.

The intelligentsia are rarely on the far right, the ones that are, are usually power/wealth hungry opportunists, who do and say anything to advance their careers, not genuine fascist ideologues. 

 

You are just projecting. Most people who support Trump are calm and rational.

[Hummin]

13 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

I would say everybody is a product of their time,  nothing to do with left or right, no need to mention Trump

There is a Reason a person like Trump can gain so much votes, and its not his qualifications or his person/personality as a human being. 

 

He lies, he is acting like a child, a despot, simplifie complicated things, and are at a risk taking very bad decissions for his country, and still he have a huge mass of followers, who see hope and pray for changes. Usa is a sick country obviously, and Trump is not the medicine. 

 

If Usa going to be healed, it needs a man who can make everyone pull in same direction, but I do not think that is possible with the gap from the right to left. Impossible. There is no mIddle ground  for common sense there.

 

When peeople mistrust science and leaves the truth to whatever fits, then you know you have an impossible task. The only way is to make sure everyone have the same right to education and it is free for everyone, free medical health, and from there you can start building a common understanding and a platform for everyone to pull the same direction. 

Edited August 3 by Hummin

[susanlea]

Just now, Hummin said:

There is a Reason a person like Trump can gain so much votes, and its not his qualifications or his person/personality as a human being. 

 

He lies, he is acting like a child, a despot, simplifie complicated things, and are at a risk taking very bad decissions for his country, and still he have a huge mass of followers, who see hope and pray for changes. Usa is a sick country obviously, and Trump is not the medicine. 

 

If Usa going to be healed, it needs a man who can make everyone pull in same direction, but I do not think that is possible with the gap from the right to left. Impossible. There is no base for common sense there

I disagree. He is one of the best speakers out there and rather funny. He is very entertaining. His 2019 data confirms his ability to deliver. The numbers are superior to Democrats.

 

Most of the criticism of him is just personal attacks.