Israel Hamas War the Widening Middle East Conflict

[Yagoda]

38 minutes ago, Rotweiler said:

Another demonstration of who the real terrorists are in the middle east.

Yeah they will all be walking around with missing eyes and fingers.

 

 

[Yagoda]

27 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

From Al Jazeera. What did the child do to israel?

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/9/18/israels-war-on-gaza-live-thousands-injured-in-lebanon-pager-explosions

Hezbollah said it holds Israel “fully responsible” for pager explosions across Lebanon, which killed at least nine people and wounded 2,750 others, including a young girl.

Daddy shouldnt have been a terrorist. If he had a pager, he was a murderous antisemitic americas hating scumbag. Sucks to be his family.

 

IM going to add that Hezbollah did the Barracks bombing did they? If so and as such, its surrender or die for every one, donw to the secretary in the back room. Thanks for the payback Benny. 

[impulse]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

From Al Jazeera. What did the child do to israel?

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/9/18/israels-war-on-gaza-live-thousands-injured-in-lebanon-pager-explosions

Hezbollah said it holds Israel “fully responsible” for pager explosions across Lebanon, which killed at least nine people and wounded 2,750 others, including a young girl.

 

Common sense would tell me that a lot of those pagers exploded in public areas, perhaps even on airplanes, buses, etc.  Giving yet more innocent people a reason to become hate filled extremists. 

 

I'm still trying to figure out the math.  How do you eliminate terrorism if you create more than you kill?   Unless, of course, by ethnic cleansing.

 

I'm 100% in favor of Israel eliminating Hezbollah and Hamas fighters.  But not in favor of radicalizing more than they eliminate.

 

[thaibeachlovers]

2 minutes ago, impulse said:

Common sense would tell me that a lot of those pagers exploded in public areas, perhaps even on airplanes, buses, etc.  Giving yet more innocent people a reason to become hate filled extremists. 

 

I'm still trying to figure out the math.  How do you eliminate terrorism if you create more than you kill?   Unless, of course, by ethnic cleansing.

I don't think they care. IMO the ones that did it are just as much terrorists as Hamas.

 

The article on Al Jazeera was showing where a guy had his pager blow up when he was in a market surrounded by people.

[Yagoda]

13 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Common sense would tell me that a lot of those pagers exploded in public areas, perhaps even on airplanes, buses, etc.  Giving yet more innocent people a reason to become hate filled extremists. 

 

I'm still trying to figure out the math.  How do you eliminate terrorism if you create more than you kill?   Unless, of course, by ethnic cleansing.

 

I'm 100% in favor of Israel eliminating Hezbollah and Hamas fighters.  But not in favor of radicalizing more than they eliminate.

 

Sooner or later they will give up. Scum always does.

[Yagoda]

10 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I don't think they care. IMO the ones that did it are just as much terrorists as Hamas.

 

The article on Al Jazeera was showing where a guy had his pager blow up when he was in a market surrounded by people.

That was a great video. Did you see them all standing around watching the scumbag writhe. Thats a great lesson. Notice how quiet the Iranians have been lately?

 

I see you are a terrorist supporting Jew hater. Good for you.

[impulse]

30 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Sooner or later they will give up. Scum always does.

 

But when?   Recent protests all over the western world would indicate support for "the scum" is growing.  Even if they are as wrong as can be, they're growing in numbers.  My guess is that the pager incident will radicalize thousands more.  Not just in the Middle East.  In London, Paris, and California...

 

[Yagoda]

11 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

But when?   Recent protests all over the western world would indicate support for "the scum" is growing.  Even if they are as wrong as can be, they're growing in numbers.  My guess is that the pager incident will radicalize thousands more.  Not just in the Middle East.  In London, Paris, and California...

 

Well when we deport the foreign terrorist scum dancing in our streets, the silly students wont have anyone to buy their tents and print their signs so they have time to act like useful idiots in between Gender studies courses..

 

Gays for Palestine!

[Nick Carter icp]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

 

This is a huge deal. As I write every security service around the world is trying to work out how to replace every on line device with a battery, or protect them from attack.

 

 

 

  How do you know what all the Worlds security services are doing ?

   Its quite likely that bombs were inserted into the pagers , so there's no need for any other country to do anything about their phones/pagers .

[Nick Carter icp]

4 hours ago, impulse said:

 

There's some discussion going on whether "they" took advantage of a flaw in existing pagers to overheat the batteries (think Stuxnet), or they somehow got Hezbollah to standardize on pagers that they have rigged with explosives for all their operatives.   It'll probably be awhile before we know.  

 

It won't go unanswered.

 

 

   Just like the pagers didn't 🙂

I understand that the message on the pagers just prior to the explosion  was

    *Can you hear me now* (in Arabic) 

[The Fugitive]

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

Sooner or later they will give up. Scum always does.

At it since 7th century AD. Doubt it will ever end.

[Nick Carter icp]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I don't think they care. IMO the ones that did it are just as much terrorists as Hamas.

 

The article on Al Jazeera was showing where a guy had his pager blow up when he was in a market surrounded by people.

 

   But the video ONLY shows the terrorist getting injured ,  all the other people in the market didn't get injured or harmed at all .

   Why cant you say Well done to Israel for not harming the other people in the market and only hitting the terrorist ?

[Nick Carter icp]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

. As it is, it won't make much difference, as the injured will be healed or replaced, and they'll be itching for revenge.

 

 

   Many of them will have lost the ability to itch themselves , those holding the phones would have lost their fingers 

[johng]

24 minutes ago, The Fugitive said:

At it since 7th century AD. Doubt it will ever end.

They should just declare California as the new "Jewish"  state and then all emigrate there.

[Yagoda]

3 hours ago, The Fugitive said:

At it since 7th century AD. Doubt it will ever end.

Look how long it took the Christians

[Yagoda]

2 hours ago, johng said:

They should just declare California as the new "Jewish"  state and then all emigrate there.

They dont want it. Thats place is for the anti semites and their allies in the Democratic party.

[Patong2021]

14 hours ago, Rotweiler said:

Another demonstration of who the real terrorists are in the middle east.

 

Iran.

Why was the Iranian Ambassador to  Lebanon outfitted with a Hezbollah issued communication device?

So much for respecting the sovereignty of  Lebanon.

 

BTW, Hezbollah was a deciding factor in keeping Syria dictator  Assad in power. I doubt the 500,000+ dead Syrians and 14 million refugees share your love for Hezbollah.

[Patong2021]

10 hours ago, johng said:

They should just declare California as the new "Jewish"  state and then all emigrate there.

 

Well, aren't you special. Scared of the "jew" are you?   Just remember that California is the largest contributor to the US  tax base and  is a major driver of  innovation in the world. Quite a difference from impoverished and backward states like MS and LA.

[Patong2021]

10 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Many of them will have lost the ability to itch themselves , those holding the phones would have lost their fingers 

 

The injuries were quite interesting. Intended to target the enemy operative, they minimized collateral damage with  no fires or significant property damage. According to security sources and footage reviewed by Reuters, some of the detonations took place after the pagers rang, causing the fighter to put their hands on them or bring them up to their faces to check the screen. Reportedly, individuals  have injuries to the face,  hands (with missing fingers) and hip wounds.     In one move,  the command and control leadership of a designated international terrorist  army and sanctioned group was incapacitated. With these people out of the mix, the ability to control troops in the field  is  reduced.

 

I don't think Israel did this alone. Supplying pagers to Hezbollah from the EU would have been illegal. Hungary has been a  strong ally of Israel for some time, along with Poland.  It had to get a sign off or a nod from some important people in Hungary.  The Hezbollah or Iranian official who made the deal to purchase the  pagers is going to be questioned  intensely, if not already executed.  The countries which allowed the pagers to transit on their way to Lebanon or Iran would have had to be complicit and I would not be surprised If someone in the  Sunni arab world gave a helping hand to get some Shiites.

 

Now if only Israel could use such  brilliance to free the few remaining hostages and to finish off the Hamas leadership, the war in Gaza could be brought to a close.

[Patong2021]

11 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  How do you know what all the Worlds security services are doing ?

   Its quite likely that bombs were inserted into the pagers , so there's no need for any other country to do anything about their phones/pagers .

 

It's a former nurse who worked in Saudi Arabia and it is thought by some that through the process of osmosis it absorbed an understanding of the arab mentality. With this new special power, a super matron of the male variety was created.

[Patong2021]

7 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Channel 4 interviewed a leading human rights lawyer Professor Sir Geoffrey Nice who explains why you cannot just say Hezbollah bad/pager attack on them good. The so called rules based order is dying a death. Bibi wants all out war now wheras the US was hoping for a period of quiet until the election was over.

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Your nonsensical  statements might have sounded better when expressed in Russian. 

 

Retired lawyer Nice has his view and it does not mean that his position is accurate or supported in fact.

-The pager devices were issued to Hezbollah members. Hezbollah is am armed entity pledged to the destruction of Israel and is at war with Israel. Hezbollah militants are not civilians.

- Nice is well aware that civilian casualties are acceptable in a time of war. The death or injury of civilians during an operation against a legitimate military objective is permissible subject to the principles of proportionality and military necessity. There were almost no civilian casualties and the targeting of Hezbollah command and control structure is a legitimate target.

- Nice is claiming  civilian casualties in large numbers do not support the  incident. Ok, but there are not large numbers of civilian casualties.  There are 2 civilian casualties reported without any supporting evidence. The balance of injuries were sustained by Hezbollah male militants.

- Nice goes off on a tangent referencing schools and hospitals being struck. Putting aside the fact that Hezbollah and Hamas use schools and hospitals for military intent, as control centers, barracks and munition dumps, that is not  the case here.

- He then goes off and claiming that Lebanon should pursue this by the ICC. Cute.  He ignores the fact that Hezbollah is a state within a state and does not recognize the  government  of Lebanon's legitimacy and is of the view that Lebanon should be  reunited with Syria.  Hezbollah would have to agree to  Lebanon's legitimacy and  agree to  follow Lebanese law and jurisdiction.

- And  his insincerity doesn't stop there. He ignores the fact that Hezbollah is the military force that is propping up the  regime of Assad in Syria.

 

Please consult with your Russian friends to rework your claim.

 

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A number of off topic, unsubstantiated, baiting and bickering posts have been removed along with the replies. There is additionally separate topics on the pager and walkie talkie explosions in Lebanon here:

 

Pager Explosions in Lebanon Target Hezbollah Members 9 Dead Thousands Injured

https://aseannow.com/topic/1338459-pager-explosions-in-lebanon-target-hezbollah-members-9-dead-thousands-injured/

 

Chaos Erupts in Lebanon as Walkie-Talkie Explosions Adds to Yesterdays Pager Blasts

https://aseannow.com/topic/1338545-chaos-erupts-in-lebanon-as-walkie-talkie-explosions-adds-to-yesterdays-pager-blasts/

 

[thaibeachlovers]

The tide is turning against israel. Even the UK abstained, rather than vote against.

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20240918-un-general-assembly-to-vote-on-call-for-end-to-israeli-occupation

UN members demand end to 'unlawful' Israeli occupation of Palestinian territories

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There were 124 votes in favor, 14 against and a notable 43 abstentions,

 

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/9/18/un-general-assembly-overwhelmingly-calls-for-end-of-israeli-occupation

Several US allies – including France, Finland and Mexico – voted in favour of Wednesday’s resolution. The United Kingdom, Ukraine and Canada abstained.

[Bkk Brian]

Of course rejected by Hamas as if they ever wanted another ceasefire/hostage release deal after they broke the only one had early Dec. They've been rejecting them ever since and even with this latest from Israel even the apologists cannot defend it, oh wait, I bet they will make a few attempts..........

 

“A single-stage deal that includes all 101 hostages is the wish of all Israeli citizens and the families of the hostages. The proposal strengthens security in Israel and makes it possible to reach a comprehensive regional settlement,” the Hostages and Missing Families Forum said in a statement."

 

"Proposal, discussed in Washington recently, also stipulates new regime for Strip; hostages’ relatives hail plan, but Hamas official swiftly rejects it as ‘ridiculous’"

 

Israel offers to end war, let Sinwar leave if all hostages freed at once, Gaza disarmed

Israel has put a proposal on the table that would end fighting in the Gaza Strip and give the head of Hamas safe passage out of the enclave in exchange for the immediate release of all hostages held in Gaza, the demilitarization of the Strip and the establishment of an alternative governing power there, Kan news reported Thursday.

An Israeli official confirmed the outlines of the report to The Times of Israel and said Gal Hirsch, the government point man on the hostages, had presented the plan to American officials, who were expected to pass it on to unspecified Arab officials.

Hirsch told families of hostages that the proposal had been presented last week in a meeting with US officials from the White House and State Department, Kan said.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-offers-to-end-war-let-sinwar-go-if-all-hostages-freed-at-once-gaza-disarmed/

 

[Bkk Brian]

IDF says warplanes hit more than 100 loaded Hezbollah rocket launchers

Israeli fighter jets in the last several hours struck over 100 Hezbollah rocket launchers in southern Lebanon that were primed for immediate attacks on Israel, the military says.

The IDF says that in total, the launchers included around 1,000 launch barrels.

The strikes began this afternoon and were carried out in several waves.

“The IDF continues to damage and degrade the terror capabilities and military infrastructure of the Hezbollah terror organization,” the military adds.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-says-warplanes-hit-more-than-100-loaded-hezbollah-rocket-launchers/

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[Bkk Brian]

Killing terrorists..................

 

These H×mas terrorists took part in October 7 massacre. Today Israel made sure they won't take part in any future massacre.

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

The Iranian response has happened. Biden may have his very own war as the US have come out 100% on israeli's side- not a smidgen of being an honest broker between the sides. US ships have joined israel against this attack.

 

No calls that I heard from official US spokesmen calling for a ceasefire- I guess the hostages have been lost now.

 

Looking at the vdo of the attack in israel seems loads of missiles got through Iron Dome.

 

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/1/israel-says-iran-launches-missile-attack-warns-residents-to-shelter

Iran says missiles fired at Israel in response to assassinations

 

 

 

[Danderman123]

39 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The Iranian response has happened. Biden may have his very own war as the US have come out 100% on israeli's side- not a smidgen of being an honest broker between the sides. US ships have joined israel against this attack.

 

No calls that I heard from official US spokesmen calling for a ceasefire- I guess the hostages have been lost now.

 

Looking at the vdo of the attack in israel seems loads of missiles got through Iron Dome.

 

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/1/israel-says-iran-launches-missile-attack-warns-residents-to-shelter

Iran says missiles fired at Israel in response to assassinations

 

 

 

It looks like Kabuki theater to me.

 

Iran seems to have been targeting their missiles near population centers, but not directly at the cities. Iron Dome seems to have ignored missiles not headed towards cities.

 

I am puzzled why the Iranian missiles were flaming just before impact.

[Yagoda]

4 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

It looks like Kabuki theater to me.

 

Iran seems to have been targeting their missiles near population centers, but not directly at the cities. Iron Dome seems to have ignored missiles not headed towards cities.

 

I am puzzled why the Iranian missiles were flaming just before impact.

They were being shot down. Your masters are about to get a swat back from the IDF.

 

My prediction is that Israel will take out all Iranian AD systems, sit back and say, well, what do you want to do next.