The US migrant Crisis video report

[Presnock]

1 minute ago, maesariang said:

Germany is an ally now. Their army was massive in ww2. Europe needs to sort itself out. Been 79 years since ww2.

Agree and always remember as do the Germans, and Japanese - although we defeated them in a total war, we enabled them in every way possible to rebuild into international economic powers and that was strictly planned.  I think that all should remember that too, that enemies can become friends if both sides join together to fix problems besides war.  Hopefully all will think that way.  In War all we have is two  losers,  one less than the other so declared a winner but the foot soldiers paid the price for that.

[alanrchase]

4 hours ago, jesimps said:

Because the Democrat Demolition Squad made huge detours around it.

That is a typical lie though isn't it. Biden is building another 20 miles due to the funds being appropriated during the previous administration. Unfortunately he has no choice other than to throw more money away on something that obviously is not working.

[AgMech Cowboy]

11 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

And yet the same data shows that the Biden administration has delivered excellent results since January 2024. The number of people crossing the border has been significantly reduced and if the trend continues, should be better than when Trump was in office , excluding the period when the borders were closed because of Covid. 

The numbers could have been reduced even further if Trump had not blocked the  bipartisan funding Bill from passing. Trump wanted the border crisis so that he could have an issue for the  election campaign.

[AgMech Cowboy]

9 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Are we playing spot the difference???

No, I kept getting an error, so I continued to try to make the post.  I finally closed the page and then reopened and saw that ALL of my post were saved. Something wrong with my 'interface' with AN.  Sorry...  I wish I could delete all but the 1st post, but I've never been able to do that.

[AgMech Cowboy]

14 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Nope...not getting any funnier....think you've peaked.

Yeah, I agree.  I don't know why I kept getting the message that it wasn't posting.

[Will B Good]

Just now, AgMech Cowboy said:

Yeah, I agree.  I don't know why I kept getting the message that it wasn't posting.

 

 

Well it was good fun whilst it lasted...555

[riclag]

43 minutes ago, AgMech Cowboy said:

No, I kept getting an error, so I continued to try to make the post.  I finally closed the page and then reopened and saw that ALL of my post were saved. Something wrong with my 'interface' with AN.  Sorry...  I wish I could delete all but the 1st post, but I've never been able to do that.

It happens to me , as well!

Thanks for posting the fast track version!

[AgMech Cowboy]

44 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

Well it was good fun whilst it lasted...555

Really...  

[The Old Bull]

You reap what you sow. If the US had not interfered in central America resulting in dictators and poverty they would not be coming. The actions of the United Fruit company are coming home to roost.

[The Old Bull]

You reap what you sow. If the US had not interfered in central America resulting in dictators and poverty they would not be coming. The actions of the United Fruit company are coming home to roost.

[The Old Bull]

You reap what you sow. If the US had not interfered in central America resulting in dictators and poverty they would not be coming. The actions of the United Fruit company are coming home to roost.

[The Old Bull]

You reap what you sow. If the US had not interfered in central America resulting in dictators and poverty they would not be coming. The actions of the United Fruit company are coming home to roost.

[still kicking]

On 8/21/2024 at 6:04 AM, riclag said:

I like to see this all unraveled between these two , harris & Trump ! Imop

“A migrant crisis that has engulfed the US is  a decisive issue in  the November election between Trump & harris”.

 

According to the article “over 9 million people have poured over, never before -encountered levels  of immigration since biden took office”.

 

https://nypost.com/2024/08/20/us-news/what-every-american-needs-to-know-about-the-migrant-crisis-video-report/

 

 

 

 

I just saw a documentary on TV tonight and Harris is miles ahead of Trump People want someone younger and not an old guy with dementia.

[cjinchiangrai]

13 hours ago, Presnock said:

Agree and always remember as do the Germans, and Japanese - although we defeated them in a total war, we enabled them in every way possible to rebuild into international economic powers and that was strictly planned.  I think that all should remember that too, that enemies can become friends if both sides join together to fix problems besides war.  Hopefully all will think that way.  In War all we have is two  losers,  one less than the other so declared a winner but the foot soldiers paid the price for that.

So we should join with Russia and abandon Ukraine? I disagree.

 

[Patong2021]

9 hours ago, AgMech Cowboy said:

Yeah, I agree.  I don't know why I kept getting the message that it wasn't posting.

Happens with me too. It is server related, especially if you use a VPN. 

[Cameroni]

56 minutes ago, still kicking said:

I just saw a documentary on TV tonight and Harris is miles ahead of Trump People want someone younger and not an old guy with dementia.

Polls mean nothing, though, because the election will be decided by the undecided voters in the swing states. 

[riclag]

1 hour ago, The Old Bull said:

You reap what you sow. If the US had not interfered in central America resulting in dictators and poverty they would not be coming. The actions of the United Fruit company are coming home to roost.

Agree somewhat! Nation building tactics of the past, by using   humanitarian aid and assistance to those triangle countries deserve a better look.A better look at your point!

“There has also been a shift in migrants’ origin countries. Historically, most encounters at the southwestern border have involved citizens of Mexico or the Northern Triangle nations of El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras. But in December 2023, 54% of encounters involved citizens of countries other than these four nations”.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/02/15/migrant-encounters-at-the-us-mexico-border-hit-a-record-high-at-the-end-of-2023/

 

biden /harris border policys before they started pivoting towards his pervious 3 years  of historic record highs were a result of a coordinated effort to purge the border!

 

what kind of administration deliberately undermines the sanctity of sovereign states by suing a border state from installing border barriers ?

 

 

[Patong2021]

11 hours ago, AgMech Cowboy said:

 

You have not disputed the facts. Posting a political cartoon showing inaccuracy is not a rebuttal of the facts. It is intentional disinformation.  Frequent international travelers know that it is difficult to cross the border via air routes. It is probably the most difficult option. If a traveler requires a Visa to enter the USA and does not have one, the airline will not board the passenger. Even if the passenger somehow obtains a visa, the passenger can be detained upon arrival. Very few countries  have visa free entry into the USA and those that do, are considered safe countries which means  sending their denied entry nationals back on the aircraft they flew in on. For reference sake these are the countries that are Visa free.  Citizens of the EU members, United Kingdom, Andorra, Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Croatia,  Iceland, Israel, Japan, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Monaco, New Zealand,  Republic of Korea, San Marino, Singapore,  Switzerland and Taiwan. Some countries  do not even have nationals who are arrested for immigration issues (Singapore, Japan).

 

1 hour ago, The Old Bull said:

You reap what you sow. If the US had not interfered in central America resulting in dictators and poverty they would not be coming. The actions of the United Fruit company are coming home to roost.

 

Not exactly.  Central America  is not as big a source of unauthorized  immigrants as you  indicate.  Yes, the United Fruit Company events impacted Costa Rica, Honduras, and Guatemala. However, it was over 60 years ago when the remnants of US interference  had any impact. Costa Rica is no longer a source of unauthorized entrants. On the contrary, it has transformed into an eco-tourism destination with an economy that retain its people. The majority of  Latin American and Caribbean  unauthorized entrants are fleeing Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, and the failed state of Haiti. With the exception of  long term dysfunctional Haiti, all are totalitarian  leftist regimes that have quashed basic rights and liberties. The USA is not implicated.

The actual data speaks for itself.  Mexicans go to the USA for economic opportunity and to escape the corruption and the cartels of their nation, not because of the UFC legacy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 22 by Patong2021

[Cameroni]

24 minutes ago, riclag said:

Agree somewhat! Nation building tactics of the past, by using   humanitarian aid and assistance to those triangle countries deserve a better look.A better look at your point!

“There has also been a shift in migrants’ origin countries. Historically, most encounters at the southwestern border have involved citizens of Mexico or the Northern Triangle nations of El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras. But in December 2023, 54% of encounters involved citizens of countries other than these four nations”.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/02/15/migrant-encounters-at-the-us-mexico-border-hit-a-record-high-at-the-end-of-2023/

 

biden /harris border policys before they started pivoting towards his pervious 3 years  of historic record highs were a result of a coordinated effort to purge the border!

 

what kind of administration deliberately undermines the sanctity of sovereign states by suing a border state from installing border barriers ?

 

 

Very interesting article, the fact that the Chinese are now fielding robust numbers for illegal entries rather illustrates that the US borders are considered weak at the moment. 

 

 

Edited August 22 by Cameroni

[Patong2021]

27 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Polls mean nothing, though, because the election will be decided by the undecided voters in the swing states. 

 

 If the polls showed Trump building a lead, you would be in high snuff, cackling with joy and beating the war drums of the Trump collective.

The polls are a strong indicator of voting trends. By the end of the week, I expect that the Democrats will have enjoyed a convention bump and hit a comfortable lead of 5%.  This was a well crafted  convention, targeting women, working mothers, afro americans and young people. These are the people who will make the difference  if they come out to vote. The polls show trends and will be used to fine tune the Democrat messaging.  The Republicans also rely on these polls to modify their messaging. The difference is that Trump isn't listening to his experts, who really do know what they are doing and who can read polls just as well as Democrat strategists.

[Cameroni]

6 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

 If the polls showed Trump building a lead, you would be in high snuff, cackling with joy and beating the war drums of the Trump collective.

The polls are a strong indicator of voting trends. By the end of the week, I expect that the Democrats will have enjoyed a convention bump and hit a comfortable lead of 5%.  This was a well crafted  convention, targeting women, working mothers, afro americans and young people. These are the people who will make the difference  if they come out to vote. The polls show trends and will be used to fine tune the Democrat messaging.  The Republicans also rely on these polls to modify their messaging. The difference is that Trump isn't listening to his experts, who really do know what they are doing and who can read polls just as well as Democrat strategists.

Again, if you consider the fact that the undecided voters in the swing states will decide the election it would be silly to believe the polls will decide the election. Clearly, they will not, since this is a very close election, and undecided voters in swing states will decide the election. Not polls, which are merely a snapshot in time which excludes the most important segment, the undecided voters in swing states. 

 

As for the Democrat convention it was almost embarrassing to watch it with the barely able to speak Clinton, Oprah talking about cat ladies and the camera panning to a miserable and alone older lady, and then Michelle Obama singing the praises of the non-rich, blissfully unaware Oprah was a fellow speaker, Kamala Harris staying away from Biden. People are making fun of it, especially the giant diaphragm dispensing abortion pills. Very poor taste. I note here on the forum there was little interest in the Democrat convention. 

 

[cjinchiangrai]

More Russian bots posting unverified nonsense. Time to shut down these trolls.

[riclag]

14 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

More Russian bots posting unverified nonsense. Time to shut down these trolls.

Suggestion,Go start your own thread!

Use the same trolling comment you used!

 

 

[Hanaguma]

2 hours ago, The Old Bull said:

You reap what you sow. If the US had not interfered in central America resulting in dictators and poverty they would not be coming. The actions of the United Fruit company are coming home to roost.

Great theory, except that the United Fruit Company had nothing to do with Mexico or Venezuela, where the majority of illegals come from.  As for the others, they were doing well until taken over by mad socialist generalissimos. Oh, and their influence ended about 70 years ago.  Other than that, great work.

[riclag]

8 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Great theory, except that the United Fruit Company had nothing to do with Mexico or Venezuela, where the majority of illegals come from.  As for the others, they were doing well until taken over by mad socialist generalissimos. Oh, and their influence ended about 70 years ago.  Other than that, great work.

History lesson!I gotta feeling the nay sayers like the idea of whats been happening to the USA , people from all over the World coming through here, illegally !

Thanks

Edited August 22 by riclag

[Roo Island]

Immigration has been a dog whistle for decades. Don't fall for it. Make the politicians solve it.  Change the laws. Trump had control of both houses of congress and didn't get it done. Why?he's using it as a dog whistle now and many are falling for it. Like riclag.

 

Sheeple

 

https://www.vox.com/politics/2024/1/25/24050278/senate-immigration-border-ukraine-trump-mcconnell-romney

 

Why Trump fears a Biden-GOP immigration deal

“He doesn’t want us to solve the border problem because he wants to blame Biden for it.”

[Presnock]

7 hours ago, cjinchiangrai said:

So we should join with Russia and abandon Ukraine? I disagree.

 

No friggin' way.  I never implied in my comments that we should join Russia - after all we didn't join Germany that was rolling over the EU armies and the Japanese were rolling over all in the Pacific and as I said we joined the armies of EU in stopping the Germans and the Aussies in stopping Japan in the pacific.  Your even suggesting from what I wrote that we should join Russia who is totally at fault in attacking the Ukraine and we should have stopped them in the earlier years when they took Crimea.  Now, some Russians are learning about their support of Putin...while it is an act of desperation, and I fail to see how those Ukrainian soldiers in Russia will ever be able to sustain operations and  still escape back to "safer" lands.  Anyway, I am not a fan of war but realize too that mankind is violent and seems to love wars as it can be

profitable.  Have a great day.

 

[thesetat2013]

On 8/22/2024 at 8:12 AM, alanrchase said:

Why isn't Trump's wall working? Billions of dollars squandered. 

What a dumb question when his wall building was stopped by the Biden admin. Currently Texas is trying to continue that even going against Biden and Washingtons directives. 

[AgMech Cowboy]

14 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

You have not disputed the facts. Posting a political cartoon showing inaccuracy is not a rebuttal of the facts. It is intentional disinformation.  Frequent international travelers know that it is difficult to cross the border via air routes. It is probably the most difficult option. I

I guess you're not aware that the Biden administration has been chartering flights to the US from 'somewhere' in South America.   Was in Venezuela"? Brazil? Colombia? or maybe it was Central America.  Sadly, I don't remember the source, but for sure it is being done. They're not coming in by regular airline tickets.

 

Correction, from AP: "Under a Biden policy in effect since January 2023, up to 30,000 people from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua and Venezuela can enter the country monthly if they apply online with a financial sponsor and arrive at a specified airport, paying their own way. Biden exercised his “parole” authority, which, under a 1952 law, allows him to admit people “only on a case-by-case basis for urgent humanitarian reasons or significant public benefit.”

[AgMech Cowboy]

12 hours ago, Roo Island said:

Trump had control of both houses of congress

That's not a correct assumption.  When Trump was 1st inaugurated there was a Republican majority in the House and Senate, but by NO means was it under President Trump's control.  Rep. Ryan was the leader in the House and he is and was a never Trumper from the get go.  Ryan fought Trump on everything.  It was sad to watch.  Maybe this time, if Trump can focus on Commie KaComala's history and policies...   ("Comala": spelled the way they want you to pronounce VP Harris' first name)