Popular Post Jingthing Posted August 23 Popular Post Posted August 23 (edited) Harris was VICE president. Still is but it now running for president. VICE presidents for the most part do not have and should not have separate policy agendas from their president. Do you magadonians begin to get that!?! She was thrust into this at the last minute due to a historically unique situation. So yes she is a separate person with a separate political policy agenda than Biden NOW. If she had BEFORE, that would mean she was a horrible vice president. So it wouldn't be humanly possible for her to have a fully baked policy agenda of her own on such short notice. Given these historically ridiculous time constraints and the reality that above all her job is to WIN against the maga fascists, it's hard to imagine anyone doing a better job than she has done up to this point. Including of course her first major presidential decision -- picking the totally amazing Tim Walz to be her vice president. You want a president who can rapidly adapt to a crisis situation as brilliantly as she has. This is a binary choice. Trump or Harris. For decent Americans, there is only one decent choice and that is Harris. Edited August 23 by Jingthing 5 1 1 2 2
Popular Post mogandave Posted August 23 Popular Post Posted August 23 1 minute ago, Jingthing said: Harris was VICE president. VICE presidents for the most part do not have separate policy agendas from their president. Do you magadonians begin to get that!?! She was thrust into this at the last minute due to a historically odd situation. So yes she is a separate person with a separate political policy agenda than Biden NOW. If she had BEFORE, that would mean she was a horrible vice president. So it wouldn't be humanly possible for her to have a fully baked policy agenda of her own on such short notice. Given these historically ridiculous time constraints and the reality that above all her job is to WIN against the maga fascists, it's hard to imagine anyone doing a better job than she has done up to this point. Including of course her first major presidential decision -- picking the totally amazing Tim Walz to be her vice president. You want a president who can rapidly adapt to a crisis situation as brilliantly as she has. This is a binary choice. Trump or Harris. For decent Americans, there is only one decent choice and that is Harris. Best case scenario, she’ll be a continuation of Biden, more likely she’ll run much harder left. If that’s what you want, vote for Harris. If that’s not what you want, vote for Trump. 4
Popular Post still kicking Posted August 23 Popular Post Posted August 23 12 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Harris was VICE president. Still is but it now running for president. VICE presidents for the most part do not have and should not have separate policy agendas from their president. Do you magadonians begin to get that!?! She was thrust into this at the last minute due to a historically unique situation. So yes she is a separate person with a separate political policy agenda than Biden NOW. If she had BEFORE, that would mean she was a horrible vice president. So it wouldn't be humanly possible for her to have a fully baked policy agenda of her own on such short notice. Given these historically ridiculous time constraints and the reality that above all her job is to WIN against the maga fascists, it's hard to imagine anyone doing a better job than she has done up to this point. Including of course her first major presidential decision -- picking the totally amazing Tim Walz to be her vice president. You want a president who can rapidly adapt to a crisis situation as brilliantly as she has. This is a binary choice. Trump or Harris. For decent Americans, there is only one decent choice and that is Harris. I am not American but I would vote for Harris anytime 4 1 2 2 2
Popular Post mdr224 Posted August 23 Popular Post Posted August 23 31 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Harris was VICE president. Still is but it now running for president. VICE presidents for the most part do not have and should not have separate policy agendas from their president. Do you magadonians begin to get that!?! She was thrust into this at the last minute due to a historically unique situation. So yes she is a separate person with a separate political policy agenda than Biden NOW. If she had BEFORE, that would mean she was a horrible vice president. So it wouldn't be humanly possible for her to have a fully baked policy agenda of her own on such short notice. Given these historically ridiculous time constraints and the reality that above all her job is to WIN against the maga fascists, it's hard to imagine anyone doing a better job than she has done up to this point. Including of course her first major presidential decision -- picking the totally amazing Tim Walz to be her vice president. You want a president who can rapidly adapt to a crisis situation as brilliantly as she has. This is a binary choice. Trump or Harris. For decent Americans, there is only one decent choice and that is Harris. You are delusional 1 3 2 1
Popular Post Cameroni Posted August 23 Popular Post Posted August 23 38 minutes ago, Jingthing said: ... , it's hard to imagine anyone doing a better job than she has done up to this point Actually, a hoarse seagull could probably have sqawked out a better speech than Kamala Harris gave. Painful and embarrassing to watch. Empty clichées. Delivered in that semi-tearful insincerity that characterizes Harris. Phony to the core. 2 3 1 1 2
Yagoda Posted August 23 Posted August 23 1 hour ago, still kicking said: Who cares about a Banana Republic like the USA Your government 3
Popular Post pegman Posted August 23 Popular Post Posted August 23 13 hours ago, novacova said: Of course no solutions, just storytelling and political rhetoric is all that they have to sell. It’s quite fascinating there are actually buyers of this hogwash. It's abortion stupid!!!! Harris will win on that issue alone and it will be not that close. Florida likely to be a squeaker this time and it would not surprise me if she won it. 2 1 1 2
Popular Post Jingthing Posted August 23 Popular Post Posted August 23 (edited) 4 hours ago, mdr224 said: You are delusional Are you American? Most Americans with basic understanding of the job of VICE presidents understand what the job is: Be a YES man for the president. Always supporting and defending the president in everything NO MATTER WHAT. Mirror the policy positions of the president even if they are not all the same as they feel. For example if Trump had picked Haley to be his VP she would have been required to radically change her position on Russia-Ukraine while she was VP. Be available as a stand in for the president diplomatically, For example attend many events abroad representing the president. Be available to take over as president immediately if the president becomes disabled or dies. What happened with Kamala Harris is NOT a normal job of a VP. This is the first time this has happened in American history where a president has been close to being nominated where he exits from seeking the nomination. Therefore to expect Harris or any other politician to have developed a fully mature policy position campaign of their own divorced from the president INSTANTLY is an inhuman expectation. People should expect what they see Harris doing -- working very hard on both winning AND differentiating herself from her president. We're electing a President Harris who has her own Vice president to mirror HER positions. Edited August 23 by Jingthing 1 1 2 2
Popular Post Jingthing Posted August 23 Popular Post Posted August 23 3 hours ago, pegman said: It's abortion stupid!!!! Harris will win on that issue alone and it will be not that close. Florida likely to be a squeaker this time and it would not surprise me if she won it. Well agreed it's a huge advantage for her. But Biden also had that issue and he was losing. So not ONLY that. 1 2
luckymitchell Posted August 23 Posted August 23 16 hours ago, novacova said: Of course no solutions, just storytelling and political rhetoric is all that they have to sell. It’s quite fascinating there are actually buyers of this hogwash. Its the BBC, I wouldn't expect anything else 2
Popular Post HappyExpat57 Posted August 23 Popular Post Posted August 23 16 hours ago, novacova said: Of course no solutions, just storytelling and political rhetoric is all that they have to sell. It’s quite fascinating there are actually buyers of this hogwash. Yeah, right. And your boy is SO clear on his policies. Like the Healthcare plan he was going to unveil YEARS ago? You red hats are just getting downright desperate. And remember - you can't spell "red hat" without the word "hatred." 1 4
Popular Post HappyExpat57 Posted August 24 Popular Post Posted August 24 4 hours ago, Cameroni said: Actually, a hoarse seagull could probably have sqawked out a better speech than Kamala Harris gave. Painful and embarrassing to watch. Empty clichées. Delivered in that semi-tearful insincerity that characterizes Harris. Phony to the core. And YOUR boy delivers such eloquent speeches about Hannibal Lector being an actual person, or getting electrocuted vs being eaten by a shark. I could go on, but it wouldn't get through your red hat. And remember - you can't spell "red hat" without the word "hatred." 2 2 1 1
Popular Post gargamon Posted August 24 Popular Post Posted August 24 Wow. All the MAGA losers are getting desperate. Look at all the nonsense they're posting in this thread after the highly successful Democratic convention. 2 2 1 1
luckymitchell Posted August 24 Posted August 24 7 hours ago, Hummin said: People need hope, thats what she brings to the table, contrary to what her opponent brings Hope and joy 2
Popular Post HappyExpat57 Posted August 24 Popular Post Posted August 24 4 hours ago, mdr224 said: You are delusional And you are ignorant. And susan. 1 1 1 1 1
Popular Post HappyExpat57 Posted August 24 Popular Post Posted August 24 9 hours ago, Hanaguma said: True. A month ago, most conservatives I know were worried about who would replace Biden. The nightmare scenario was a charismatic moderate like Governor Shapiro or Wes Moore. We all breathed a sigh of relief that Kamala got the job. Once her honeymoon ends, she will go back to being a mediocrity. Yeah . . . this honeymoon MAY end in 2027. For now, she's completely on track to wipe the floor with 45. 2 1 1 1 1
Popular Post mdr224 Posted August 24 Popular Post Posted August 24 6 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said: And you are ignorant. And susan. Its an honor to be mentioned with him. One of the sane voices left here 1 5
Popular Post luckymitchell Posted August 24 Popular Post Posted August 24 12 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said: Yeah, right. And your boy is SO clear on his policies. Like the Healthcare plan he was going to unveil YEARS ago? You red hats are just getting downright desperate. And remember - you can't spell "red hat" without the word "hatred." You can't spell Democrats without the word rats 5
Popular Post HappyExpat57 Posted August 24 Popular Post Posted August 24 9 minutes ago, luckymitchell said: You can't spell Democrats without the word rats Nah, just doesn't have the same ring nor originality. You guys can't come up with anything new, just like your cult leader. Just regurgitating the same ol' schtick. 2 2 1
nauseus Posted August 24 Posted August 24 12 hours ago, MicroB said: Decent speech from a genuinely conservative Republican (judging from his voting record). Trumpf-supporting Republicans, when you look at their voting records and beliefs, are not really conservative (they don't really understand the term). The same happened with the Tories, and the whole nonsense of Red Wall Tories. The thing about Trumpfism; there are no principles, just grievances. Which means support for Trumpf can be fickle, just waiting for the next David Duke. Kizinger is one of only two RINOs from that supposedly bipartisan, but totally unprincipled, Jan 6 comedy committee. Call the next bluffer! 1 1 1
thesetat2013 Posted August 24 Posted August 24 for a speech to the people at the DNC. She has once again proven she has no goals or plans yet what she can or wants to do if elected. Does she even know anything about politics or what is needed to make the US stronger and more independent from outside nations? OR about what to do with the border crisis she and Biden created? How about welfare or medical costs? Increasing jobs? Anything? 1 2 1 1
mdr224 Posted August 24 Posted August 24 (edited) 4 minutes ago, thesetat2013 said: for a speech to the people at the DNC. She has once again proven she has no goals or plans yet what she can or wants to do if elected. Does she even know anything about politics or what is needed to make the US stronger and more independent from outside nations? OR about what to do with the border crisis she and Biden created? How about welfare or medical costs? Increasing jobs? Anything? All the liberals here have is their phony leftwing news sources. Nothing based in reality. Americas enemies want the democrats to win Edited August 24 by mdr224 2
maesariang Posted August 24 Posted August 24 8 hours ago, MicroB said: You have no clue about me. You cannot "buy" (sic) my opinion. And what is "traditional America"? Redcoats? Lynchings? Segregation? Coke floats? Turkey with trimmings? Pizza? Cahokia Mounds? Traditional America doesn't like braggards, with trophy wives, who's father stiffed the US people during a war of survival. Traditional America doesn't like people who made their fortune on the backs of others. They like people who made stuff. Trumpf never made a thing in his life. Why are you grieving over "weaponization" (sic) of unelected bureaucrats. You prefer elected bureaucrats. The rest of the world laughs at America for electing police chiefs, prosecutors and judges. You prefer the process of electoral cronyism to actually appointing people to the job based on skills, then firing them when they are not up to it. You don't know the difference between "to grieve" and a grievance. Given that poor use of English, and knowing many Americans when I lived in Alabama and Tennessee (with a smidgen of Missouri), I will conclude you are someone posing as an American, and that English is not your mother tongue. I don't think you understand the meaning of "political shill" either. Its just a term your handlers instructed you to use. Colonel Adam Kinzinger, after serving 3 tours in Iraq (well technically over Iraq), entered politics and was endorsed by Governor Palin. He won all his elections very solidly. He refused to vote on any climate change legislation that would raise taxes. Quite conservative. He sponsored a bill to enable combat medics to transfer their skills more easily to civvie street. Supporting the tropps, very conservative. He voted to support 2017 Republican reforms to healthcare legislation that would have repealed much of the ACA. Very conservative. He supported Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017; cutting taxes, positively Reaganesque. He constantly tweeted #chinahidthevirus. Trumpf would approve. He thought alleged kiddie fiddler Matt Gaetz should have stepped down while he was investigated for sordid trafficing of minors. That seems conservative. He supported cross state line carry laws. Conservative. On January 6 2021, he had a bad feeling and went to the Capitol rocking a .380 Rugar ACP. That is totally fecking conservative American. He seems a man of principle; he doesn't see eye to eye on many issues with those across the aisle. For most of his adult life, he has served his country. He clearly believes in Law and Order and the US Constitution. He clearly decided that Trumpf is little more than a Pound Shop (Dollar Store) Mussolini (Mussolini, for all his pouting, did actually develop clear principles). His going away speech: I quite like the cut of his jib. I hold in great esteem those in public service, in uniform or out uniform. And for those in uniform, the greatest respect for the reservists, the part timers; they sacrifice so much. I've seen much the same in the UK; the finest conservative minds hounded out of parliament by a scoundral who misused, lied to and abused his Sovereign, utterly destroying a party with hundreds of years of tradition, leaving us at the mery of Labour and the rotten lot at Reform. Trumpf has suckered you, just like he suckered people before he even got into politics. Nobody reads that 1 1
maesariang Posted August 24 Posted August 24 5 minutes ago, thesetat2013 said: for a speech to the people at the DNC. She has once again proven she has no goals or plans yet what she can or wants to do if elected. Does she even know anything about politics or what is needed to make the US stronger and more independent from outside nations? OR about what to do with the border crisis she and Biden created? How about welfare or medical costs? Increasing jobs? Anything? She is all fluff. No substance at all. 1 1 1
maesariang Posted August 24 Posted August 24 3 minutes ago, mdr224 said: All the liberals here have is their phony leftwing news sources. Nothing based in reality. Americas enemies want the democrats to win China, russian, iran want Harris. 1 1
Popular Post gamb00ler Posted August 24 Popular Post Posted August 24 5 minutes ago, maesariang said: Nobody reads that You've perfected the strategy that ensures you remain a know nothing nobody. 1 1 2
thaibeachlovers Posted August 24 Posted August 24 9 hours ago, Cameroni said: It was indeed a relief a mediocrity like Kamala Harris got the nomination (well coup annoitment really). True. If she was anywhere near as wonderful as the Dems propaganda machine is saying it wouldn't be a close race. she'd be waaaaaay ahead in the polls. If Trump is so bad, why is he polling close to the anointed one? She should be way ahead, but she's not. Choosing Clinton was a mistake, and they should have learned the lesson that horrid women don't win, but they chose Harris . She is Trump's best hope for a win, and Trump thanks them for choosing her. 1 1 1
cdemundo Posted August 24 Posted August 24 18 hours ago, novacova said: Of course no solutions, just storytelling and political rhetoric is all that they have to sell. It’s quite fascinating there are actually buyers of this hogwash. "It’s quite fascinating there are actually buyers of this hogwash." Reminds me of an Evangelical Christian telling me "I can't understand the ridiculous things that Catholics believe!" 1 1
cdemundo Posted August 24 Posted August 24 20 minutes ago, maesariang said: China, russian, iran want Harris. Did you meant to say "Chinan, Russian, Iran"? 1
maesariang Posted August 24 Posted August 24 6 minutes ago, cdemundo said: Did you meant to say "Chinan, Russian, Iran"? Chinaaa
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