Trump calls Harris a Marxist, a communist, even a fascist. Says one expert: "It's a slur."

[MalcolmB]

4 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Trump is under the delusion the tariffs will be paid by the country exporting goods and services. In reality, American consumers pay.

It will cause inflation to rise also.

Trump always imported cheap Chinese steel for his construction.

 

He doesn’t really believe in protecting or creating American jobs. He just thinks it will win him votes.

He will say anything.

 

[Steven55]

30 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

It's much too early to say.

 

Harris was, by an indepdendet body, considered to be one of the most liberal Senators. She proposed fixing grocery prices, which most economists laughed at. Her father is a Marxist scholar. She wanted to abolish private medical insurance at one point, but has now flip flopped.

 

The Marxist tag may well stick and hit home. We'll only know for sure come election time.

 

[maesariang]

3 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Re part 1 above, maybe you should consult further with:

  

 

Re part 2 above:

 

Not that most people these days actually believe anything Donald Trump says is the "actual truth".

Price controls was used by Marxists and Fascists so technically Trump is correct.

 

Sorry for posting facts.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

He has had a somehwhat promiscuous relationship with the truth. Even his supporters would grant that, lol.

 

Trump having "a somewhat promiscuous relationship with the truth" is pretty much like saying...

 

...water is wet!

 

[Yagoda]

28 minutes ago, maesariang said:

She is a Marxist. Price controls and wants "opportunity based" economy.

 

 

She also stands for:

 

Censorship

Government control over insurance

Government control over your transport

Government control over your childrens sexuality

Racial preferences

DEI

 

among other Marxist dreams

[maesariang]

Just now, Steven55 said:

 

Real wages fell under Biden and rose under Trump. Poverty rose under Biden.

[maesariang]

Just now, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Trump having "a somewhat promiscuous relationship with the truth" is pretty much like saying...

 

...water is wet!

 

Why do you think price controls is not Marxist?

[Yagoda]

2 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

It will cause inflation to rise also.

Trump always imported cheap Chinese steel for his construction.

 

He doesn’t really believe in protecting or creating American jobs. He just thinks it will win him votes.

He will say anything.

 

Look more lies from non Americans.

 

Got steel invoices for us?

[maesariang]

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

She also stands for:

 

Censorship

Government control over insurance

Government control over your transport

Government control over your childrens sexuality

Racial preferences

DEI

 

among other Marxist dreams

Fair points. Sounds like Marxism to me.

[MalcolmB]

4 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Look more lies from non Americans.

 

Got steel invoices for us?

And proud to be a non-American. You guys are the biggest liars on earth. 
 

 

https://thehill.com/policy/finance/299293-steelworkers-livid-over-report-trump-bought-chinese-steel-aluminum/

Edited September 2 by MalcolmB

[Cameroni]

6 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

He just thinks it will win him votes.

He will say anything.

 

 

So a bit like Kamala Harris saying she supports fracking. 

 

Or funding ICE for more border controls.

 

Or she does not want to ablish private health care.

 

She will literally say anything to get votes. Even if it's diametrically opposed to what she believe in.

[MalcolmB]

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

So a bit like Kamala Harris saying she supports fracking. 

 

Or funding ICE for more border controls.

 

Or she does not want to ablish private health care.

 

She will literally say anything to get votes. Even if it's diametrically opposed to what she believe in.

Yes, they are all bad liars over there, and very gullible.

 

Fact checking is a weakness, more alternative truth types. 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

23 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

IIRC, by Vance as well.

 

Someone above kind of put their foot in it.... 🙂

 

[still kicking]

33 minutes ago, maesariang said:

Look at Thailand - high supply reduces prices. Supply/demand equation 1st year economics. You increase competition through incentives and lower energy prices you increase supply. Prices come down. 

And 1 and 1 is 11 

[maesariang]

6 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Someone above kind of put their foot in it.... 🙂

 

You did. You proved you don't know what Marxism is. Kamala has many of their beliefs as her beliefs just like her father. She is at least 50% Marxist maybe more. She won't do interviews alone to express herself.

[maesariang]

11 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

So a bit like Kamala Harris saying she supports fracking. 

 

Or funding ICE for more border controls.

 

Or she does not want to ablish private health care.

 

She will literally say anything to get votes. Even if it's diametrically opposed to what she believe in.

Have you seen a bigger flip flopper? 

[Lacessit]

8 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Someone above kind of put their foot in it.... 🙂

 

Nikki Haley would have been a much better pick as VP. Trump would have got the Haley vote as well, which is by no means a lock. Also as a counterbalance to Harris.

 

As usual, his narcissism got in the way, because Haley lambasted him in the primaries.

 

My betting is he will throw Vance under the bus when he loses. He's had plenty of practice at both.

[Jingthing]

I really don't care what that felonious moron calls Harris and neither does she.
She's ignoring his garbage and it's driving him batty!

Edited September 2 by Jingthing

[maesariang]

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

Nikki Haley would have been a much better pick as VP. Trump would have got the Haley vote as well, which is by no means a lock. Also as a counterbalance to Harris.

 

As usual, his narcissism got in the way, because Haley lambasted him in the primaries.

 

My betting is he will throw Vance under the bus when he loses. He's had plenty of practice at both.

He will probably win. Most see Harris as a goose who does not understand the economy. Her awful voice will be exposed in the debate. It won't be pretty when she loses. Emerson polls skew left and have Trump in a good position now. Harris has no cards to play. Trump will crush her like a bug in the debate.

[MicroB]

35 minutes ago, maesariang said:

Funny enough Trump has been called Hitler 500 times. Is that not a slur?

 

Well hasn't (500 times, like some sort of wierd Beetlejuice or Candyman chant). The origins of Trumpf's admiration for Adolf Hitler came from a number of first hand sources.

 

General John Kelly claimed that Trump, while in a conversation about loyalty, said that Hitler had dones a few good things.

 

In 1990, Michael Kelly, Ivana Trump, said in conversation that Trumpf used to like to keep copies of "My New Order", a collection of Hitler's speeches in his bedside locker.  At the time, when asked about it, Trumpf said he had been given a copy of Mein Kampf by a friend of his from Paramount, Marty Davis. 34 years later, Trump claims never to have read Mein Kampf. Marty Davis later clarified that in fact he had given him a copy of "My New Order". Its kind of curious why a Jewish guy would give a good friend of his, writings about Hitler. Maybe his friend was coming out with ignorant spoutings about the Nazis, and needed to be taught a lesson. It illustrates for all his well funded education, that at best, Trumpf is a stunningly ignorant man. Unlike others of his age, he never had a dad who served in WW2, who would tell the young Donald on his knee, how he stormed the beaches at Normandy, how he freed the Bataan survivors, how he witnessed the worse of what human could do to another at Belsan, how he grabbed the nearest bird for a sloppy kiss of VE day. All he could tell Donald was how he charged the US Government top dollar for barracks, so the war was good business, never forget that  Donald. Plus soldiers are suckers and losers.

 

Maybe Trump was thinking of Groucho and not Karl. Perhaps he has been stung about accurations that he's like his father, a syphilitic Klansman, and is linking Harris to her father.

 

Perhaps you can discuss whether Harris ascribes to Keynesian economics, post-Keynesian or Neo-Keynesian. But for Americans, these are just words to toss around.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

45 minutes ago, maesariang said:

Price controls was used by Marxists and Fascists so technically Trump is correct.

 

Sorry for posting facts.

 

So by your price controls illogic, former Republican presidents Gerald Ford and Richard Nixon must have been Marxists and Fascists as well:

 

In 1971:

"Nixon issued Executive Order 11615 (pursuant to the Economic Stabilization Act of 1970), imposing a 90-day freeze on wages and prices in order to counter inflation. This was the first time the U.S. government had enacted wage and price controls since World War II."

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixon_shock

 

And then later from 1975:

FORD SIGNS BILL ON ENERGY THAT ENDS POLICY IMPASSE AND CUTS CRUDE OIL PRICES

WASHINGTON, Dec. 22—President Ford ended a yearlong stalemate with. Congress over energy policy today by signing into law a bill that will roll back crude oil prices and help stabilize gasoline and fuel oil prices for consumers, at least temporarily.

...

Cut in Crude Oil Price

The new law will force a reduction in the average price of crude oil produced in the United States from the current $8.75 a barrel to $7.66 a barrel. The change will go into effect in February."

 

Shocking what those Republican Marxist presidents were up to.... 😞

 

But when it comes to "fascism", the definition of that sounds a whole lot more like a different presidential candidate:

 

"Not all scholars agree on what fascism is. Philosopher Jason Stanley of Yale University says it is "a cult of the leader who promises national restoration in the face of humiliation brought on by supposed communists, Marxists and minorities and immigrants who are supposedly posing a threat to the character and the history of a nation." That is, fascism focuses on one person as leader, fascism says communism is bad, and fascism says that at least one group of people is bad and has caused the nation's problems. This group could be people from other countries or groups of people within the country.^[9]  [BOLD emphasis added]

 

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

 

That sound a whole lot like the campaign platform and ravings of.... well, you know who.

 

Edited September 2 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[maesariang]

Just now, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

So by your price controls illogic, former Republican presidents Gerald Ford and Richard Nixon must have been Marxists and Fascists as well:

 

In 1971:

"Nixon issued Executive Order 11615 (pursuant to the Economic Stabilization Act of 1970), imposing a 90-day freeze on wages and prices in order to counter inflation. This was the first time the U.S. government had enacted wage and price controls since World War II."

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixon_shock

 

And then later from 1975:

FORD SIGNS BILL ON ENERGY THAT ENDS POLICY IMPASSE AND CUTS CRUDE OIL PRICES

WASHINGTON, Dec. 22—President Ford ended a yearlong stalemate with. Congress over energy policy today by signing into law a bill that will roll back crude oil prices and help stabilize gasoline and fuel oil prices for consumers, at least temporarily.

...

Cut in Crude Oil Price

The new law will force a reduction in the average price of crude oil produced in the United States from the current $8.75 a barrel to $7.66 a barrel. The change will go into effect in February."

 

Shocking what those Republican Marxist presidents were up to.... 😞

 

But when it comes to "fascism", the definition of that sounds a whole lot more like a different presidential candidate:

"Not all scholars agree on what fascism is. Philosopher Jason Stanley of Yale University says it is "a cult of the leader who promises national restoration in the face of humiliation brought on by supposed communists, Marxists and minorities and immigrants who are supposedly posing a threat to the character and the history of a nation." That is, fascism focuses on one person as leader, fascism says communism is bad, and fascism says that at least one group of people is bad and has caused the nation's problems. This group could be people from other countries or groups of people within the country.^[9]  [BOLD emphasis added]

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

 

That sound a whole lot like the campaign platform and ravings of.... well, you know who.

Ford and Nixon - 2 of the worst ever.

 

 

[still kicking]

1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

So by your price controls illogic, former Republican presidents Gerald Ford and Richard Nixon must have been Marxists and Fascists as well:

 

In 1971:

"Nixon issued Executive Order 11615 (pursuant to the Economic Stabilization Act of 1970), imposing a 90-day freeze on wages and prices in order to counter inflation. This was the first time the U.S. government had enacted wage and price controls since World War II."

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixon_shock

 

And then later from 1975:

FORD SIGNS BILL ON ENERGY THAT ENDS POLICY IMPASSE AND CUTS CRUDE OIL PRICES

WASHINGTON, Dec. 22—President Ford ended a yearlong stalemate with. Congress over energy policy today by signing into law a bill that will roll back crude oil prices and help stabilize gasoline and fuel oil prices for consumers, at least temporarily.

...

Cut in Crude Oil Price

The new law will force a reduction in the average price of crude oil produced in the United States from the current $8.75 a barrel to $7.66 a barrel. The change will go into effect in February."

 

Shocking what those Republican Marxist presidents were up to.... 😞

 

But when it comes to "fascism", the definition of that sounds a whole lot more like a different presidential candidate:

"Not all scholars agree on what fascism is. Philosopher Jason Stanley of Yale University says it is "a cult of the leader who promises national restoration in the face of humiliation brought on by supposed communists, Marxists and minorities and immigrants who are supposedly posing a threat to the character and the history of a nation." That is, fascism focuses on one person as leader, fascism says communism is bad, and fascism says that at least one group of people is bad and has caused the nation's problems. This group could be people from other countries or groups of people within the country.^[9]  [BOLD emphasis added]

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

 

That sound a whole lot like the campaign platform and ravings of.... well, you know who.

Don't answer the troll he is just clueless 

[metisdead]

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[maesariang]

24 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Nikki Haley would have been a much better pick as VP. Trump would have got the Haley vote as well, which is by no means a lock. Also as a counterbalance to Harris.

 

As usual, his narcissism got in the way, because Haley lambasted him in the primaries.

 

My betting is he will throw Vance under the bus when he loses. He's had plenty of practice at both.

Why is Haley good? Because she is a woman? She seems a bit dumb.

[TedG]

1 hour ago, maesariang said:

Funny enough Trump has been called Hitler 500 times. Is that not a slur?

It's funny how this only goes in one direction. 

[still kicking]

1 minute ago, maesariang said:

Why is Haley good? Because she is a woman? She seems a bit dumb.

Not as dumb as all your replies.

[maesariang]

Just now, TedG said:

It's funny how this only goes in one direction. 

It is funny how they defend her. They did not like her 3 months ago.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

9 minutes ago, maesariang said:

Ford and Nixon - 2 of the worst ever.

 

Of course!  By your standard, they must have been price control espousing Marxists!

 

[Cameroni]

35 minutes ago, maesariang said:

Have you seen a bigger flip flopper? 

Only when Gorbachev asked for Western economic experts 😂

 

Something Kamala also should be doing...

Edited September 2 by Cameroni