28 minutes ago, novacova said:

Free speech is an imperative and the foundation of freedom and democracy which is very annoying for the left, they simply hate anyone that doesn’t agree with them and shut them down, the intolerant are the absolute epitome of fascism.

 

So you think free speech includes the right to incite insurrections, or urge your followers to harass , intimidate and assault witnesses, jurors and court officials.

 

Just how <deleted> in the head are you?

2 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

You are consumed with <removed>, You go on about division - I remember Biden saying that his priority was to unite the country when he got in and look what happened after that?

 

The history which matters most now is his previous term as President, which was fair overall, right up until the election. I still see him being a better option for the USA than Harris.

 

But don't worry, I don't get a vote.

You have a bad memory or very poor understanding of America politics and what actually occurred if you think Trump fair. He was no where near fair. He was a loose cannon with everyone around him babysitting him to stop his many attempts at f'n up the relationships with other nations and the internal working of most govt agency by firing key people and replacing them with worthless donors. You wouldn't know about any of that since you didn't live in the USA and see his real actions. What happened in the country was a result of Trump and a follow on reaction not something Biden did. Educate your with facts not propaganda from the far right.

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Thanks. I am sure alot of this happened both with his staff, and with the intelligence community. He did not like them, and they despised him and had a total lack of respect and regard for him, as they knew he was a absolute goon. 

Thats correct. Millery actually told the pentagon and subordinate staff to disregard any orders concerning nuclear action at one point should Trump issue any orders. He never read any of the daily security briefings as well.  He screwed up so much of the govt, which was already messed up enough but most people outside the USA never saw that

On 9/5/2024 at 7:15 AM, spidermike007 said:

Millions of voters and hundreds of millions around the world are finally figuring out who he is, and why they don't want to have anything to do with him. 

 

He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W. look smart and articulate. In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws - he would make a Trump. And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish: 'My God… what… have… I… created?

 

Unappealing, unattractive, idiotic, incompetent, hateful, hurtful, abrasive, rude, blowhard, liar, cheater, thief, infantile, failure, loser, fraud, sexual abuser, incestuous, tax cheat, insurrectionist, un-American, dictator-loving dictator wannabe, out of control, sociopathic, convicted felon, toxic narcissist & brutish A-hole.

 

Everything about the con-man referred to as Trump is unlikeable. He's everything wrong with the human animal, all stuffed into one specimen.

 

 

 

Almost everybody knew that Trump is bad. Including lots of GOP candidates. Just listen to what they said in the GOP primaries in 2016.

It seems to me that Trump is popular with many people because he uses clearer and easier language which the masses understand. And he is right to criticize many of the established politicians and the swamp.

The problem is of course that even if A is bad, that doesn't mean B is better.

There are bad politicians and there are some who are even worse. Trump is certainly one of them.

But many voters hate "the establishment" so much that they don't comprehend that Trump is even worse than what he pretends to fight.

 

Trump is a narcistic maniac. In most countries people are smart enough not to vote for people like him. In the USA that is obviously not the case.

 

But to be fair, the alternative is not something to vote for. She and the DEMs are only the lessor evil.

The American political system is f#$#$%. Lots of people who want power, and more power.

Government for the people and by the people is a joke by now.

And somehow it doesn't look that that will be better anytime soon.

 

God bless America - they really need that. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

18 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

Almost everybody knew that Trump is bad. Including lots of GOP candidates. Just listen to what they said in the GOP primaries in 2016.

It seems to me that Trump is popular with many people because he uses clearer and easier language which the masses understand. And he is right to criticize many of the established politicians and the swamp.

The problem is of course that even if A is bad, that doesn't mean B is better.

There are bad politicians and there are some who are even worse. Trump is certainly one of them.

But many voters hate "the establishment" so much that they don't comprehend that Trump is even worse than what he pretends to fight.

 

Trump is a narcistic maniac. In most countries people are smart enough not to vote for people like him. In the USA that is obviously not the case.

 

But to be fair, the alternative is not something to vote for. She and the DEMs are only the lessor evil.

The American political system is f#$#$%. Lots of people who want power, and more power.

Government for the people and by the people is a joke by now.

And somehow it doesn't look that that will be better anytime soon.

 

God bless America - they really need that. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Trump is so popular for the same reason the AfD is popular in Germany. People hate the established politicians. Trump is a living two fingers up in the face of Biden, Harris,  Pelosi, etc....this is why nothing he does matters and doesn't dent his popularity. People want to stick it up the established politicians. Just as with the AfD. 

38 minutes ago, Dan O said:

Thats correct. Millery actually told the pentagon and subordinate staff to disregard any orders concerning nuclear action at one point should Trump issue any orders. He never read any of the daily security briefings as well.  He screwed up so much of the govt, which was already messed up enough but most people outside the USA never saw that

And this is why he represents a clear and present danger both to the American people, and to the planet. His ignorance combined with his hubris and intense thirst for power and wealth, is a potential recipe for disaster. He is highly compromised. 

 

 

Trump is the best since Ronald. Only stupid people can't see it.

2 minutes ago, maesariang said:

Trump is the best since Ronald. Only stupid people can't see it.

Not sure what your basing that statement on Trump. Its not based on facts but as usual your loving you some trump.

58 minutes ago, Dan O said:

You have a bad memory or very poor understanding of America politics and what actually occurred if you think Trump fair. He was no where near fair. He was a loose cannon with everyone around him babysitting him to stop his many attempts at f'n up the relationships with other nations and the internal working of most govt agency by firing key people and replacing them with worthless donors. You wouldn't know about any of that since you didn't live in the USA and see his real actions. What happened in the country was a result of Trump and a follow on reaction not something Biden did. Educate your with facts not propaganda from the far right.

 

By fair I mean average (performance).

 

To get a national perspective, I don't think you have to be there. The USA is a very big place.

 

What happened in the country that was Trump's fault?

 

There seems to be far more propaganda from the left than the right. 

20 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Trump is so popular for the same reason the AfD is popular in Germany. People hate the established politicians. Trump is a living two fingers up in the face of Biden, Harris,  Pelosi, etc....this is why nothing he does matters and doesn't dent his popularity. People want to stick it up the established politicians. Just as with the AfD. 

 

Yes. But there is one big difference.

In Germany many people vote for the AfD to protest but it is unlikely that the AfD will be in power. The AfD works in the way that the mainstream politicians look at why people vote for the AfD and they have to adjust their politics to win voters back.

In the USA people vote to protest. But with that they don't just send a message to the established parties to change. The change is radical. Because the hero of the protest has no idea how to govern a country. Unfortunately, too many protest voters don't see that or don't care.

The sad thing is that that there are just two bad options. 

6 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

Yes. But there is one big difference.

In Germany many people vote for the AfD to protest but it is unlikely that the AfD will be in power. The AfD works in the way that the mainstream politicians look at why people vote for the AfD and they have to adjust their politics to win voters back.

In the USA people vote to protest. But with that they don't just send a message to the established parties to change. The change is radical. Because the hero of the protest has no idea how to govern a country. Unfortunately, too many protest voters don't see that or don't care.

The sad thing is that that there are just two bad options. 

Yes, so we see the SPD and CDU adopting anti immigration policies the way the AfD electorate want. Clientele politics Even if the AfD don't come to power their presence has political effects. The change of the CDU and SPD to what they are today is pretty radical.

 

 But yes, the established parties can hobble the AfD much like the Democrats have tried to neutralize Trump with legal proceedings. The same happened to the AfD. Trump is more impervious to this due to his billions, it would be as if one of the ALDI brothers had entered politics. 

This video just appeared on my YouTube page. It's not really political, but I have an idea who they will vote for...

 

 

54 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Yes, so we see the SPD and CDU adopting anti immigration policies the way the AfD electorate want. Clientele politics Even if the AfD don't come to power their presence has political effects. The change of the CDU and SPD to what they are today is pretty radical.

 

 But yes, the established parties can hobble the AfD much like the Democrats have tried to neutralize Trump with legal proceedings. The same happened to the AfD. Trump is more impervious to this due to his billions, it would be as if one of the ALDI brothers had entered politics. 

Comparing the business acumen of Trump with any one of the Aldi brothers is like comparing a puddle of lukewarm vomit to a Rembrant painting.
Besides, Donald doesn't have billions.

4 minutes ago, Inderpland said:

Comparing the business acumen of Trump with any one of the Aldi brothers is like comparing a puddle of lukewarm vomit to a Rembrant painting.
Besides, Donald doesn't have billions.

I realise you're on some kind of Democrat fantasy trip, but Trump 's net worth is estimated at 3.8 billion USD, which is comparable to one of the  surviving Aldi heirs.

15 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

I realise you're on some kind of Democrat fantasy trip, but Trump 's net worth is estimated at 3.8 billion USD, which is comparable to one of the  surviving Aldi heirs.

Estimated by who?
And to compare Trump, who was born with a silvespoon in his mouth (in addition to some rather convenient bone spurs), to someone who started with two empty hands and built an empire? Seriously??

2 minutes ago, Inderpland said:

Estimated by who?
And to compare Trump, who was born with a silvespoon in his mouth (in addition to some rather convenient bone spurs), to someone who started with two empty hands and built an empire? Seriously??

By Forbes. What Karl Albrecht Jr was not born with a sliver spoon in his mouth? Come on...

4 hours ago, Lacessit said:

So you think free speech includes the right to incite insurrections, or urge your followers to harass , intimidate and assault witnesses, jurors and court officials.

 

Just how <deleted> in the head are you?

What insurrection? Oh you mean the fantasy insurrection created by the neoliberal neocon cabal. Yet not one single person has yet to show what Trump said or did to cause an insurrection unless pulling fantasy accusations from a statement such as “Be there, will be wild” and if anyone considers that a cause of insurrection truly has their f-head so far up their ying-yang and f-head deep in media poop and can’t see anything. Now go back and resume the Morning Joe and the View programming and fill that bucket sitting on those shoulders with more rocks.

1 minute ago, novacova said:

What insurrection? Oh you mean the fantasy insurrection created by the neoliberal neocon cabal. Yet not one single person has yet to show what Trump said or did to cause an insurrection unless pulling fantasy accusations from a statement such as “Be there, will be wild” and if anyone considers that a cause of insurrection truly has their f-head so far up their ying-yang and f-head deep in media poop and can’t see anything. Now go back and resume the Morning Joe and the View programming and fill that bucket sitting on those shoulders with more rocks.

I get it, the gallows and the chants of "Hang MIke Pence" did not exist, Trump never said "He deserves it".

 

Trump was prevented by his own security detail from going to the Capitol to urge the protestors to disperse peacefully. Yeah right.

 

Noted you slither away from harassment, intimidation and assault resulting from Trump's "free speech".

 

Rewrite history all you want. Fact is, if Trump loses in November, the courts will write the correct history for you.

 

Have you donated to his campaign yet?

2 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

By fair I mean average (performance).

 

To get a national perspective, I don't think you have to be there. The USA is a very big place.

 

What happened in the country that was Trump's fault?

 

There seems to be far more propaganda from the left than the right. 

Spidermike already listed a number of things as I have also on this thread. You can also search the internet as his action are no secret. To get a proper perspective you do need to be there because if your not your just getting feed media stories created for click bait versus real news. 

13 minutes ago, Dan O said:

Spidermike already listed a number of things as I have also on this thread. You can also search the internet as his action are no secret. To get a proper perspective you do need to be there because if your not your just getting feed media stories created for click bait versus real news. 

 

I can imagine what your sources of 'real news' are.

 

That's enough for today.

 

 

17 hours ago, Cameroni said:

By Forbes. What Karl Albrecht Jr was not born with a sliver spoon in his mouth? Come on...

I am of course talking about the two brothers that started Aldi. Could you be any lamer when you're owned?

3 hours ago, Inderpland said:

I am of course talking about the two brothers that started Aldi. Could you be any lamer when you're owned?

 

They are both dead, so you'd have to look at one of the heirs.

48 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

They are both dead, so you'd have to look at one of the heirs.

It was you who brought them up, remember?

On 9/4/2024 at 6:15 PM, spidermike007 said:

Millions of voters and hundreds of millions around the world are finally figuring out who he is, and why they don't want to have anything to do with him. 

 

He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W. look smart and articulate. In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws - he would make a Trump. And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish: 'My God… what… have… I… created?

 

Unappealing, unattractive, idiotic, incompetent, hateful, hurtful, abrasive, rude, blowhard, liar, cheater, thief, infantile, failure, loser, fraud, sexual abuser, incestuous, tax cheat, insurrectionist, un-American, dictator-loving dictator wannabe, out of control, sociopathic, convicted felon, toxic narcissist & brutish A-hole.

 

Everything about the con-man referred to as Trump is unlikeable. He's everything wrong with the human animal, all stuffed into one specimen.

 

 

I've not quite got what Messianic attraction this man has over folks

 

I'm one of those odd ones nowadays and have voted for both Democrats and Republicans, Arnold  Schwarzenegger may have been a mistake I must admit, although I still like the guy!

 

But this guy I just don't get it. As as an individual he's just a vile human being, the idea that the 'Christian' right support him baffles belief.

 

The narcissist he his thinks nothing about anyone but himself, yet the acolytes don't see that.

 

Multiple marriages, screwing contractors out of money, bankruptcies, porn star sex, puss****y grabbing and they still seem to be mesmerized him.

 

Hopefully this cycle he will lose and the RNC will awaken from this Trump hypnotic state and return to a rational party

18 minutes ago, GinBoy2 said:

I've not quite got what Messianic attraction this man has over folks

 

I'm one of those odd ones nowadays and have voted for both Democrats and Republicans, Arnold  Schwarzenegger may have been a mistake I must admit, although I still like the guy!

 

But this guy I just don't get it. As as an individual he's just a vile human being, the idea that the 'Christian' right support him baffles belief.

 

The narcissist he his thinks nothing about anyone but himself, yet the acolytes don't see that.

 

Multiple marriages, screwing contractors out of money, bankruptcies, porn star sex, puss****y grabbing and they still seem to be mesmerized him.

 

Hopefully this cycle he will lose and the RNC will awaken from this Trump hypnotic state and return to a rational party

Fully agree. I's totally incomprehensible that a person so obviously unfit to lead could be considered presidential material. It will forever be a mystery to me what goes on in the minds of the die-hard MAGA crowd.

As you say, one can only hope that the real GOP becomes so tired of losing that they get rid of him, and the MAGA movement goes the way of the Tea Party movement - gone and largely forgotten.

21 hours ago, Inderpland said:

It was you who brought them up, remember?

 

Yes, but looking at it they both died, so one of the heirs would have been a better comparison.

7 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Yes, but looking at it they both died, so one of the heirs would have been a better comparison.

Their heirs have (like their fathers before them) all done infinitely better than Trump.