Musk the useful idiot

[Inderpland]

1 minute ago, maesariang said:

You like red circles lol

No, I like facts.

[Inderpland]

2 minutes ago, luckymitchell said:

In your opinion, nothing more

Obviously. What's your point?

[maesariang]

1 minute ago, luckymitchell said:

In your opinion, nothing more

Which does not mean much. Facts say Trump was better. 

[maesariang]

Just now, Inderpland said:

Obviously. What's your point?

Whats your point? You have no facts to present. I just proved you wrong multiple times.

[maesariang]

3 minutes ago, Inderpland said:

No, I like facts.

Show a link from 2024 showing inflation, poverty or unemployment is better than 2019 then.

[Inderpland]

3 minutes ago, maesariang said:

Whats your point? You have no facts to present. I just proved you wrong multiple times.

I think it's time for your nappy.

[mogandave]

1 hour ago, tgw said:

 

one is provided here:

 

if you want more, take your pick here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_or_misleading_statements_by_Donald_Trump

 

I'm still waiting on your articulation of Biden's lies with supporting links.

 

 

So you call a man a liar, yet you are not able to come up with even one lie off the top of your head. 

 

I’ve already articulated two Biden lies, but another would be when in the most recent debate, he claimed Trump called veterans suckers and losers. 

[mogandave]

41 minutes ago, Inderpland said:

I think it's time for your nappy.

I think it time you had your’s changed…

[maesariang]

47 minutes ago, Inderpland said:

I think it's time for your nappy.

Well thanks for showing you have no facts. I figured you were a baby.

[Hummin]

57 minutes ago, maesariang said:

Lowest unemployment and poverty index in 50 years combined with low inflation.

 

 

Less taxes for the rich and more government spending.

 

China have a 10 year, 15, 30, 50 and 100 year plan, Usa? Politicians who try their best to undermine each other to claim they had the best results in one year, two years is F ridiculous and here you are advocating for one of the worst president's in history. F short time enthusiast 

[maesariang]

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

Less taxes for the rich and more government spending.

 

China have a 10 year, 15, 30, 50 and 100 year plan, Usa? Politicians who try their best to undermine each other to claim they had the best results in one year, two years is F ridiculous and here you are advocating for one of the worst president's in history. F short time enthusiast 

Go live in China then.

[Hummin]

5 minutes ago, maesariang said:

Go live in China then.

I'm sure China will be on Pair with Usa for their partners. 

 

Usa is on the brink of destruction because of greed

[Hummin]

8 minutes ago, maesariang said:

Go live in China then.

Usa is a perfect example of country who best represent the 7 deadly sins

[maesariang]

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

I'm sure China will be on Pair with Usa for their partners. 

 

Usa is on the brink of destruction because of greed

Whose fault is that?

[mogandave]

Just now, Hummin said:

I'm sure China will be on Pair with Usa for their partners. 

 

Usa is on the brink of destruction because of greed

How is that? Are you talking about the people benefiting from big pharma, the green energy sector and the military industrial complex? 

[maesariang]

Just now, mogandave said:

How is that? Are you talking about the people benefiting from big pharma, the green energy sector and the military industrial complex? 

Who support Harris.

[Hummin]

5 minutes ago, maesariang said:

Whose fault is that?

American voters

[Hummin]

5 minutes ago, mogandave said:

How is that? Are you talking about the people benefiting from big pharma, the green energy sector and the military industrial complex? 

😄 who do you think do not benefit from big pharma? People live longer because of big pharma, we need the economic boost green energy can gives us as well better environment, even I do not agree on some prioritized solutions, and human nature to keep resources, gain new resources and keep or widen the borders for more power is done by wars. 

 

All those is cheap retorics from one of the parties who went to war this century and we still paying for one waynor the other.

 

Pandemics is serious, but somehow, someone managed to.make you all believe you guys are immune and immortal for viruses. 

 

 

[mogandave]

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

😄 who do you think do not benefit from big pharma? People live longer because of big pharma, we need the economic boost green energy can gives us as well better environment, even I do not agree on some prioritized solutions, and human nature to keep resources, gain new resources and keep or widen the borders for more power is done by wars. 

 

All those is cheap retorics from one of the parties who went to war this century and we still paying for one waynor the other.

 

Pandemics is serious, but somehow, someone managed to.make you all believe you guys are immune and immortal for viruses. 

 

 

So what greed has the US o. the brink of destruction? 

[mogandave]

Are the people wanting to raise taxes on the rich not greedy?

[maesariang]

Give the rich incentives to invest in farms, public housing, hospitals, roads.

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35 minutes ago, mogandave said:

Are the people wanting to raise taxes on the rich not greedy?

No, it doesn't. How exactly does proposing to raise taxes on the rich mean someone is greedy? 

[mogandave]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

No, it doesn't. How exactly does proposing to raise taxes on the rich mean someone is greedy? 

Are the people that hope to be the recipients of those raised taxes, and for that reason vote for the people proposing to raise taxes, not greedy? 

[placeholder]

3 minutes ago, maesariang said:

Give the rich incentives to invest in farms, public housing, hospitals, roads.

Farms? The rich are already investing massively in farms. Like a guy who is apparently your hero, Bill Gates.

Hospitals? Thanks to privatization public hospitals are being taken over and often closed in the pursuit of profits. There are areas of the US that are now hospital deserts where pregnant women can't get health care thanks to those closures.

Roads? Toll roads actually make money for governments. Why give that up to private interests? 

[placeholder]

4 minutes ago, mogandave said:

Are the people that hope to be the recipients of those raised taxes, and for that reason vote for the people proposing to raise taxes, not greedy? 

Well, by your reasoning, anyone supporting any legislation that either increases the tax burdens on others that might have a beneficial effect on them or supports decreases that will lower their tax burden is greedy. 

Your is the kind of argument that resorts to making things personal when they have nothing reasonable to offer in the way of an argument.

[mogandave]

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Farms? The rich are already investing massively in farms. Like a guy who is apparently your hero, Bill Gates

Isn’t Bill Gates a leftist that’s supporting Harris?

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Hospitals? Thanks to privatization public hospitals are being taken over and often closed in the pursuit of profits. There are areas of the US that are now hospital deserts where pregnant women can't get health care thanks to those closures.

What happened to the Affordable Care Act? I thought that was making healthcare more available to millions more Americans than ever before, no?

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Roads? Toll roads actually make money for governments. Why give that up to private interests? 

I thought fuel taxes were supposed to pay for roads. 

 

How about that high speed rail in California? Is that profitable yet? 

 

 

[mogandave]

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Well, by your reasoning, anyone supporting any legislation that either increases the tax burdens on others that might have a beneficial effect on them or supports decreases that will lower their tax burden is greedy. 

Your is the kind of argument that resorts to making things personal when they have nothing reasonable to offer in the way of an argument.

Some other leftist (not you) claimed that the US is on the brink of destruction because of greed. I am only trying to figure out what greed they were talking about. 

 

Is the taxpayer wanting to pay less, greedier than the tax recipient that wants them to pay more? 

[placeholder]

3 minutes ago, mogandave said:

Some other leftist (not you) claimed that the US is on the brink of destruction because of greed. I am only trying to figure out what greed they were talking about. 

 

Is the taxpayer wanting to pay less, greedier than the tax recipient that wants them to pay more? 

Maybe you think that raising taxes to clean up the environment, is greedy? It's true that the rich can get away to less polluted climes. Does that mean that those who can't are greedy for wanting to breathe clean air and clean water? Is it greedy to want to ensure that children have access to decent medical care and have enough food to eat? And so on...

 

[mogandave]

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

Maybe you think that raising taxes to clean up the environment, is greedy? It's true that the rich can get away to less polluted climes. Does that mean that those who can't are greedy for wanting to breathe clean air and clean water? Is it greedy to want to ensure that children have access to decent medical care and have enough food to eat? And so on...

 

If everyone benefits from raising taxes, why not raise taxes on everyone? 

 

It seems greedy to raise them only on the rich. 

 

Edited September 9 by mogandave

[Inderpland]

31 minutes ago, mogandave said:

If everyone benefits from raising taxes, why not raise taxes on everyone? 

 

It seems greedy to raise them only on the rich. 

 

Yeah, like that greedy commie Robin Hood! Why did he always go after the rich? Why not steal from the little guy once in a while and give some to the rich. Like Trump did!