Second Assassination Attempt-Secret Service get Trump to safety

[Patong2021]

9 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

3.2 million come in, 0.6 million get removed.  That sounds about right.  Harris-Biden are letting about 80% in.  And those are the ones they encounter.  Add in the millions of gotaways that they see, but don't encounter, and they're letting in about 90%.

 

I'd characterize that as an "open border".

 

 

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/nationwide-encounters

 

Where's your link to data?

 

 

 

You have provided the data. Your charts show  the number of CBP encounters. If the borders were open, there would be no  "encounters". 

 

[mdr224]

1 minute ago, Patong2021 said:

 

You have provided the data. Your charts show  the number of CBP encounters. If the borders were open, there would be no  "encounters". 

 

Under trump nobody got in. With him nobody would be getting in

[Patong2021]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

That's the difference between us and lefties.  I have a ton of lefty friends.  I think they're misguided, mistaken, but I don't think they're mentally ill or evil.

 

In my very Red neighborhood in Texas, nobody tore down Biden-Harris yard signs in 2020.  But a lot of Trump signs went missing at night.  People wore Biden-Harris hats and t-shirts to neighborhood picnics and nobody batted an eye.  But when guys wore MAGA hats, they were verbally assaulted, and lefties stormed out until they took off their hats.

 

What you call a lefty is what civilized people in the rest of the world call enlightened conservatives or moderates.

The USA  also calls the mayonnaise type product infused with corn syrup sweetener, Miracle Whip, and  the edible palm oil product used for whitening coffee, "Coffee Mate" .

[impulse]

19 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

This is the result of dangerous rhetoric from the left. calling him a rapist, a dictator, a fascist etc.

 

Weak/dangerous minds believe such things. I suggest people are more careful about what they say/post.

 

The Dems are going to claim it was an irate golfer, cheezed off that he lost his Sunday tee time when they closed the course for Trump.

 

The Florida golf course was partially shut down for Trump as he played...

 

https://apnews.com/article/trump-shooting-gunshots-florida-f62f8378d3a8ce7b2e99d6a8fb40aba9

 

[UWEB]

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

So all Trump supporters are mentally ill now?

Some sort of.

[impulse]

2 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

What you call a lefty is what civilized people in the rest of the world call enlightened conservatives or moderates.

The USA  also calls the mayonnaise type product infused with corn syrup sweetener, Miracle Whip, and  the edible palm oil product used for whitening coffee, "Coffee Mate" .

 

Joe Walsh was right when he named that album.

 

[novacova]

41 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

No. Because the event  is not fully confirmed. As trump supporters often warn, the potential for false flag events is very real. 

There you go with more of your right wing conspiracy theories 

[jvs]

2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Typical knee jerk response of the leftist who wants to deprive decent normal people of self-defense while allowing criminals and sexual perverts to run wild

It seems sarcasm is wasted on you.

[herfiehandbag]

2 hours ago, bubblegum said:

Know nothing about guns but if you were to seriously assassinate a person would you not be using one of those sniper guns? 

Certainly an AK 47 is far from the ideal sniper weapon, and fitting it with a telescopic sight is rather like taking a spoonful of sugar with diabetes medicine to make it taste better!

 

Apparently the Secret Service were alerted when they saw the barrel poking out of a shrubbery! Doesn't sound like the actions of an "expert"!

 

Then again, looking at some of the photographs published on here of the suspect, with bandannas, body armour, a classic manic stare "et al", perhaps rational thought is not his strongest point!

 

As has been pointed out, Florida has very lax gun laws (I nearly said liberal but that is a word much misunderstood these days). Sitting in a shrubbery clutching an AK 47 may be eccentric, but is It prosecutable?

Edited September 16 by herfiehandbag

[Patong2021]

3 minutes ago, mdr224 said:

Under trump nobody got in. With him nobody would be getting in

 

Repeating a false statement does not make it true.

As we have written, apprehensions at the southwest border, were 14.7% higher in Trump’s final year in office compared with the last full year before he was sworn in. See the detailed analysis of Trump's false claims here. 

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/04/trumps-misleading-chart-on-illegal-immigration/

 

You are not going to change anyone's position. All you are doing is playing to the existing Trump collective. 

Now you have a new  incident you can claim is part of the big conspiracy.

 

 

[impulse]

Interesting that RT is hours ahead of western media on this story.  Probably because they compile info from a lot of sources instead of bogarting the "exclusives" like the MSM.

 

Also interesting that the guy's name was released before they had a chance to wipe his social media...

 

I'm not going to link, but it's worth a look if you're curious.

[Wrwest]

5 hours ago, Tug said:

What’s the fuss Florida is an open carry free to conceal state what could possibly go wrong?going to be interesting to see how this plays out wouldn’t surprise me a bit if it is a false flag operation to boost trumps #s.at least he didn’t get any shots off and as far as I know he wasn’t even taking aim……more to come 

You are so suspicious, Tug. Trump supporters involved, seeking to enhance emotional support for him? OK, fact that I also await the FBI investigation results as I too leave open the possibility for varying motivations. Of course, it could just be a deer hunter ... I am told the AR-15 style weapon is just for hunting ... ha!

[Yagoda]

43 minutes ago, Tug said:

Gee I don’t know and I live very near the border all of my properties are within 20 miles of the border,were are these people?

Ahhh he’s been convicted and fined for sexual assault the judge says it qualifies as rape…..he says he wants to be a dictator and certainly sucks up to them hes definitely a full blown racist and has the most violent rhetoric of any politician I’ve been exposed to……he’s just reaping what he’s sowing.

You are so blatantly deranged by your hatred of Trump that you arent even worth responding to any more.

[Yagoda]

41 minutes ago, Dan O said:

You answered your own question, you are a trumpette. Stating and sensationalizing non events or twisting truth and fact to be the fiction to support a POS like trump. I am continually baffled at the ignorance of trumpettes

 

Not just a Trumpette, a proud one.

 

He stands for the policies I stand for. As I cannot support gun confiscation, as I cannot support endless foreign wars, a weaponized judiciary, appeasement of terrorists, antisemitism, censorship, the Green New Deal, interference in parental rights, Reparations, Decarbonization and an open border, I have no choice but to be a Trumpette, the name you think is so cute and denigrating, but actually represents what I stand for.

 

How about you?  What do you stand for? Censorship?

 

 

[CharlieH]

 

 

 

[Yagoda]

36 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

What you call a lefty is what civilized people in the rest of the world call enlightened conservatives or moderates.

The USA  also calls the mayonnaise type product infused with corn syrup sweetener, Miracle Whip, and  the edible palm oil product used for whitening coffee, "Coffee Mate" .

Our lives in America are better than yours.

[Cory1848]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

That's the difference between us and lefties.  I have a ton of lefty friends.  I think they're misguided, mistaken, but I don't think they're mentally ill or evil.

 

In my very Red neighborhood in Texas, nobody tore down Biden-Harris yard signs in 2020.  But a lot of Trump signs went missing at night.  People wore Biden-Harris hats and t-shirts to neighborhood picnics and nobody batted an eye.  But when guys wore MAGA hats, they were verbally assaulted, and lefties stormed out until they took off their hats.

 

Oh, boo hoo. Somebody stole your signs? You were taunted for wearing your hat? Don’t be a crybaby. A person who supports Trump openly favors strongman rule, which is an assault on everything the US stands for, and openly favors the roundup of (20 million?) people who aren’t white and their imprisonment in “camps,” which is barbaric. And much else besides. This is how he says he will govern; there are no secrets. So, I’m sorry, I’m sure that most Trump supporters are good people who have simply been led down an errant path, but I have no sympathy if you’re going to sob about your hat.

[Yagoda]

52 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

 

And now you are an expert in administrative criminal law. That is quite a robust education that you have, or did you obtain your expertise from being charged under both state and federal law?

 

Yes, a crime can violate both state and federal law. Yes, a crime can be investigated and prosecuted in both state and federal court. However, when it comes to (alleged) attempted assassinations of former presidents and of presidential candidates, a state defers to the federal government. No state has ever unilaterally investigated a federal crime.  The federal government though a designated enforcement body, whether the  FBI or Secret Service  is always the lead. 

 

Should the federal government not be successful in a prosecution, the state can file state law charges. Historically, it is the state governments who have failed to properly investigate and to prosecute and it has been the federal government that steps in to ensure there is justice.  This has been demonstrated with violations of the US Constitution with state refusals to investigate the murder of civil rights workers in the 1960's and with failures by states to implement  desegregation.

 

Here's a quick and easy reminder. Serious federal crimes,mean that the  federal government will take the lead in the investigation and the prosecution. The state is there to provide support if needed.

Well clearly Im more of an expert than you. By the way, what is "administrative criminal law"?  Attempted murder is defined in criminal law.

 

You obviously just cut and paste from somewhere. Your ignorance is showing, but since you arent an American, its OK.

 

 

[impulse]

4 minutes ago, Cory1848 said:

Oh, boo hoo. Somebody stole your signs? You were taunted for wearing your hat? Don’t be a crybaby. A person who supports Trump openly favors strongman rule, which is an assault on everything the US stands for, and openly favors the roundup of (20 million?) people who aren’t white and their imprisonment in “camps,” which is barbaric. And much else besides. This is how he says he will govern; there are no secrets. So, I’m sorry, I’m sure that most Trump supporters are good people who have simply been led down an errant path, but I have no sympathy if you’re going to sob about your hat.

 

Yup.  Another lefty data point.

 

[Yagoda]

49 minutes ago, UWEB said:

Some sort of.

Well then if they dont get better what is your lot going to do?

[Yagoda]

38 minutes ago, jvs said:

It seems sarcasm is wasted on you.

Use a smiley then. Insert eyeroll here.

[hughrection]

I have went through all 4 pages so far with multiple comments and have yet to see anyone condone this action. 😞

I have no dog in this hunt as I am not American and cannot vote, but it does give an indication of how broke the political system is when nobody has said this is the wrong thing to do.

It is sad to see Americans on here being so far apart in all aspects of their lives.

I fear this hatred will never end. It's sad.

 

That's my piece - now get back to your squabbling.

Edited September 16 by hughrection

[WDSmart]

I'm not a fan of the 2nd Amendment in the US Constitution, at least how it's been interpreted, but I think if you use it's original meaning, this man should not be charged with any crime. He was trying to protect the US from the destruction of it's government. 

[Yagoda]

1 minute ago, WDSmart said:

I'm not a fan of the 2nd Amendment in the US Constitution, at least how it's been interpreted, but I think if you use it's original meaning, this man should not be charged with any crime. He was trying to protect the US from the destruction of it's government. 

Possibly the most unique interpretation of the 2nd I have ever seen, but glad to see you would justify the murder of a human because you dont like his politics.

 

Very typical of the left.

[earlinclaifornia]

18 minutes ago, Cory1848 said:

Oh, boo hoo. Somebody stole your signs? You were taunted for wearing your hat? Don’t be a crybaby. A person who supports Trump openly favors strongman rule, which is an assault on everything the US stands for, and openly favors the roundup of (20 million?) people who aren’t white and their imprisonment in “camps,” which is barbaric. And much else besides. This is how he says he will govern; there are no secrets. So, I’m sorry, I’m sure that most Trump supporters are good people who have simply been led down an errant path, but I have no sympathy if you’re going to sob about your hat.

MSNBC Anchor Says Trump Should Tone Down Rhetoric After Potential Second Assassination Attempt

 

https://dailycaller.com/2024/09/15/msnbc-trump-tone-down-rhetoric-potential-assassination-attempt/

 

Good advice 

[Yagoda]

1 minute ago, earlinclaifornia said:

MSNBC Anchor Says Trump Should Tone Down Rhetoric After Potential Second Assassination Attempt

 

https://dailycaller.com/2024/09/15/msnbc-trump-tone-down-rhetoric-potential-assassination-attempt/

 

Good advice 

I openly favour the roundup of all illegals who remain after preliminary measures. Its easy.

[earlinclaifornia]

1 hour ago, Patong2021 said:

 

On the contrary, the shooter appears to be a member of the Alex Jones.Laura Ingram school of right wing  crackpots. It is telling that the shooter used an AK 47 with scope, a weapon the Democrat and enlightened Republicans want restricted.

Good job NRA.

https://dailycaller.com/2024/09/15/msnbc-trump-tone-down-rhetoric-potential-assassination-attempt/

[Celsius]

Why do they want to silence him?

 

Why do they want him DEAD???

[tilaceer]

1 hour ago, mdr224 said:

Under trump nobody got in. With him nobody would be getting in

Absolute laughable rubbish.
Why do Trumpers persist in spouting blatantly false information ?

[frank83628]

25 minutes ago, Cory1848 said:

Oh, boo hoo. Somebody stole your signs? You were taunted for wearing your hat? Don’t be a crybaby. A person who supports Trump openly favors strongman rule, which is an assault on everything the US stands for, and openly favors the roundup of (20 million?) people who aren’t white and their imprisonment in “camps,” which is barbaric. And much else besides. This is how he says he will govern; there are no secrets. So, I’m sorry, I’m sure that most Trump supporters are good people who have simply been led down an errant path, but I have no sympathy if you’re going to sob about your hat.

you just proved his point, but totally unaware .